Latest "Ring" lap times (grabs popcorn)

[XanRules]

Also, it sure is interesting to see how the fastest ones have some of the lower hp numbers.

[IDCoconut]

Thanks for the list.

I just still find it odd no one else has come close to Nissan's claimed time around the ring...with showroom stock cars. d

[VooDooXII]

The earlier Donkervoort D8 looks really great...like a really nice modern version of the old Lotus 7s. I think they've overdone it with the new one, but it's probably all in the name of aerodynamics.

[Paul]

i would probably say there is quite a large % of error in these times as driver + track conditions are so important; not including there has been much speculation that some vehicles like the skyline wasn't stock.


IMO same driver and conditions makes for the best times...

Top Gear times... for example:

The Power Board

Per the rules of the board, in order to qualify, a time must be set by a road-legal car that can pass over a standard sleeping policeman. For this reason, times by an aeroplane, F1 car and various track cars do not appear.

1. 1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo
2. 1:17.3 - Ascari A10
3. 1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with The Top Gear Wing)
4. 1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda F Roadster
5. 1:17.9 - Caterham Seven R500 (cold tyres)[5]
6. 1.18:3 - Bugatti Veyron
7. 1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F
8. 1:18.9 - Maserati MC12
9. 1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce
10. 1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari
11. 1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
12. 1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<<<<<
13. 1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300 [6]
14. 1:19.7 - Nissan GT-R ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<<<<<
15. 1:19.7 - Ferrari 430 Scuderia
16. 1:19.8 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
17. 1:19.8 - Porsche Carrera GT
18. 1:20.4 - Koenigsegg CCX (without Spoiler )[7][8]
19. 1:20.7 - Ascari KZ1 (damp)
20. 1:20.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
21. 1:21.2 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
22. 1:21.9 - Ford GT
23. 1:22.3 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
24. 1:22.3 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996 mk.II)
25. 1:22.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
26. 1:22.5 - Noble M15
27. 1:22.6 - Westfield XTR
28. 1:22.9 - Ferrari F430 F1[9]
29. 1:23.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
30. 1:23.2 - Ferrari F430 Spider F1[9]
31. 1:23.7 - Lamborghini Murciélago (retested)
32. 1:23.8 - Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 (partly damp)
33. 1:23.9 - Aston Martin DBS
34. 1:23.9 - Koenigsegg CC8S
35. 1:24.0 - Ariel Atom 1 220[10]
36. 1:24.2 - Veritas RS III
37. 1:24.3 - Prodrive P2 (concept)
38. 1:24.4 - Audi R8 (damp)
39. 1:24.6 - TVR Sagaris
40. 1:24.8 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400
41. 1:24.8 - TVR Tuscan Mk.II
42. 1:25.0 - Noble M12 GTO-3R
43. 1:25.1 - Lotus Exige S
44. 1:25.3 - BMW M3 E90 Sedan
45. 1:25.7 - Lotus Evora
46. 1:25.7 - Audi RS4[11]
47. 1:25.7 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
48. 1:25.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
49. 1:25.9 - Morgan Aero 8 GTN[12]
50. 1:26.0 - BMW Z4M
51. 1:26.0 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
52. 1:26.0 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320[13]
53. 1:26.2 - BMW M5[14]
54. 1:26.2 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997)
55. 1:26.2 - Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
56. 1:26.4 - Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
57. 1:26.7 - Porsche Cayman S[15]
58. 1:26.8 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 LS2
59. 1:26.8 - Ferrari 575M Maranello GTC[16]
60. 1:26.9 - Lexus IS-F
61. 1:26.9 - Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG

[speedminded]

FC = factory claim
IT = independent time

Trying to figure out exactly what IFC is...

[Master Shake]

NissanTun3r, you don't read mags but you know that quite a few them have named the GTR car of the year? where did you read these "expert reviews" about the GTR being manageable to drive? it had to be from some source. more than likely it was online, which most of the stuff online, is in the mags.

shifting requires no skill? i think it does. yea, anyone can shift, but its knowing when to shift thats key. i do believe that takes skill. you can't just shift when you hit the redline or you'll be hitting the fuel cut as well cause you to run a 1/4 time to be a few tenths of a sencond slower than what it should be. few tenths not a big deal? tell that to the GTR who's behind the ZR1. after all, its only a few tenths. cause either way, its still behind, not in front.

only reason you think people in the mags are more "credible" than OnUrLeft is cause, well, they're the ones writing the article. meaning they are getting the info from other people who have driven the cars and using everything their saying and putting it down into words for you to read. that doesn't make them more credible, its makes them good writers.

[RL...]

NissanTun3r, you don't read mags but you know that quite a few them have named the GTR car of the year? where did you read these "expert reviews" about the GTR being manageable to drive? it had to be from some source. more than likely it was online, which most of the stuff online, is in the mags.

shifting requires no skill? i think it does. yea, anyone can shift, but its knowing when to shift thats key. i do believe that takes skill. you can't just shift when you hit the redline or you'll be hitting the fuel cut as well cause you to run a 1/4 time to be a few tenths of a sencond slower than what it should be. few tenths not a big deal? tell that to the GTR who's behind the ZR1. after all, its only a few tenths. cause either way, its still behind, not in front.

only reason you think people in the mags are more "credible" than OnUrLeft is cause, well, they're the ones writing the article. meaning they are getting the info from other people who have driven the cars and using everything their saying and putting it down into words for you to read. that doesn't make them more credible, its makes them good writers.

1) I do read car magazines, I said I don't read many. I don't bother with bs like import tuner...and yes the reviews I have read about the gtr haev been form online or magazines...that doesn't make them any less credible

2) Again, you misread what I wrote. I never said shifting takes no skill. But my arguement is that it does not take more skill than anyone with 2 legs and 2 arms can perform, and I do not think that's the differance betweem a drivers car or a car that drives itself...

3) I have not nor am debating that the gtr is faster than the zr1..so I do not know why you put that in your post...I'm sure the zr1 is faster....but for 120k I'm buying soemthing european...

4) The ppl writing the magazines articles are more credible than onurleft. And many of those writers are also drivers, the drivers that test cars and then report about them. And it does make them more credible, because since those writer are professional drivers or take the words of the professional drivers it's essentially the driver's point of view. And yes, the experienced driver is definitely more credible than some guy on an import forum named onurleft who could be some redneck hill billy married to his sister for all we know.

[alpine_aw11]

The GTR's computer system is what make people think it isn't a drivers car, not that it has paddle shifters. There are plenty of exotics with paddle shifters that are amazing vehicles to drive. It isn't just a coincedence that the GTR is overweight and underpowered then puts those times out. I cant say anything bad about it, the technology is amazing, but personally I would take an ACR over any other car on that list. That's more my style.

[nreggie454]

The GTR's computer system is what make people think it isn't a drivers car, not that it has paddle shifters.

Agreed. The flappy paddles are only part of the reason why it isn't a driver's car. Also, in a real driver's car, you can turn off traction control without voiding the warranty.

[Vteckidd]

I hate the "GTR drives itself" argument.

Its innovation anyway you look at it. Who cares. Ferraris have paddle shifting dont they? is it because there is no clutch pedal?

I wouldnt say the ZR1 fails, its a great car, just a little out of its price range IMO. if it was a $90,000 car i think it would be selling a lot more.

[VooDooXII]

Ridge Racer 6 has a car that looks just like that Donkervoort.