Rotas + Track = F.A.I.L
I got this from another forum and just wanted to share. (if it's a repost bite me)
Originally Posted by Wasuri
How they normally should look:
After getting some laps:
The song 'twist and shout' comes to mind...
Original thread:
http://forums.montrealracing.com/sho...d.php?t=602494
Lol. I've seen worse disasters from rotas, they're a crap company that capitalizes from rice boys wanting to be "JDM."
Forged and real quality DONT come to mind.
Never seen that.
But I do know tons of people tracking Rotas with no issues.
thats not the same wheel. Look at the weights on the inside of the wheels in the two pictures. They dont match up.
Okay. Well there are 4 wheels, ever consider its the same set but different wheels?
Either way you get the point of the thread and what happened.
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yeah i considered it..... still looks like a bogus pic to me. jmo
Why do i have a feeling there is more to this story than is being sold? The direction of the bend on the spokes isnt even where the majority of the force would be.
you really have to much time on your hands if your willing to make bogus stuff like this. im not saying it is fake but you never know
this really isn't the place for this... but DANG 90 Accord... your car has more life than my friends Silverado!
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-jonathan
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you talkin shit jonathan?
UPROOT Photography FTW
i just thought it was funny looking at his sig, it's higher than stock ride height.......
you talkin shit jonathan?
-jonathan
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ah, got ya
ouch!
But if you read through the thread... it says that the "Caliper was not properly torqued. It got loose and hit the back of the spokes which explains the radial and lateral deformations."
Still.. I'd rather rock my rpf1.
See, this is the shit that irritates me. Why be so quick to point a finger and criticize a product if you aren't even going to read the fucking thread. Rotas certainly aren't a high end wheel but many people like myself have used them for YEARS with 0 problems.
LOL
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Well i did read the entire thread and failed to find anyone that was providing facts over unproven theorys. I hate to say it but this is just what i would expect from people buying these parts. I for one believe that a car that will see a race track should not be on a cast wheel.
The only little sense that came from that whole article was the people that said, "i dont care because i dont take my car to the race track"
On a full fledged race car, sure. But I don't see a concern running rotas for occasional track days, solo events, etc on a street driven car. Granted my wheels don't see the constant abuse of a race car, but I've personally ran a set of rotas for many years now, including hundreds of mountain runs with absolutely no problem. These wheels have outlasted at least 6 sets of tires. I have yet to see an example of a Rota just falling off the hub or spokes breaking. Every time one of these Rota bashing threads comes up, people post enough of the pictures to try and make a point but fail to mention that the wheel was left loose, caliper was loose, car got hit in the side etc. The humorous part to me is 90% of the time these threads are made, they are by mugen/volk etc fanboys whose cars rarely see anything other than the drive to work, trying to justify spending money to look cool like japanese youtube videos.
well hell this is a repost though
x2 i posted this original thread.../failure soon
^How do you know everytime a repost is done?!?!
lol i have a great memory, as long as its not putting faces to names. lol
Mr kid posted this befor...
my rotas ran like a champ for me... 1000 mile trips with hidden and unknown potholes galore and they never bent/broke at all...I even has low pros...so rotas get ain my book
^I've always seen TONS of track cars on Rotas, even race cars, maybe not 500hp Civics but... Never personally seen one have an issue or known someone who personally has HAD an issue, just these online pics.
I've personally heard of more people having problems with HRE's than Rotas on the track -- A wheel clearly worth quite a bit more dough. Certain HRE's are even banned for several tracks/events. The only difference is that HRE isn't ripping off JDM wheel designs -- probably why the JDM fanboys get their panties in a bunch and make such a big deal about Rotas. Every wheel company has horror stories, sans maybe BBS and CCW.
^^^Cool, now the noobs can see it.
Damn rota fanboys came out in full force. LOL
I'm with EJ25RUN on this. Buy your rotas to "stunt" but don't put these these wheels on a high power car and track it. If you invest all of this money on engine upgrades why not spend the money on upgrading wheels?!? What's wrong with reducing your rotational weight?
Then, why when people decide to not waste their money and they get "real" rims they are looked at as a jdm fanboy or just trying to look cool!?! hahahahaha {shakes head}
You posted half the story in an effort to get a response, and you got it. Rotas are an upgrade over factory wheels. I certainly wont argue the quality of forged rims, but I can also say that forged wheels would suffer the same fate as cast wheels in 99% of the conditions that these failed rota pictures happened in. Also, cast wheels arent necessarily heavy. For instance, the Rota Circuit 8s are styled after the Mugen MF8. The weight difference between the two is negligible. However the MF8 are very difficult to come across, are last time i saw were around $350 a piece. I hardly see how one wheel could be any more "real" than another though. If someone puts a set of wheels on their car that they like, i dont see how it makes them any less or a person or less capable than anyone else.
Shut up Chris.----------------------->
"FUCK YOUR FAKE WHEELS!"
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If I'm not mistaken it was just quoted from another.
And if you believe a forged rim will suffer the same fate as a cast wheel in 99% of the time, then do companies invest in the forging process? Why not save money and cast all rims then, huh? Forging of rims need to stop, because companies are wasting their money.
And you're right, the mass difference would be based on the design. But stress/density ratio would greatly differ base on the process which really matters the most.
If you you're looking for a particular style and it's discontinued or out of your price range, rota is for you. I don't have a problem with that. I do have problems with people bashing others with that would rather invest in better quality wheels, and when people compare the quality of rotas to higher spec wheels. Don't forget when people try to pass off fakes are reals (which rarely happens now). And you're right green91, rotas aren't "fake" wheels since they are wheels, but they are "fake" in the sense of not being original . So I'm going to stop typing fake and start typing the word knockoffs to describe them.
You shut up chris lol. They are round, roll and havent failed me yet.
I'll just go buy a set of Mugens, leave my calipers loose and smash the car into a curb, and then when they break i'll post pictures of how they are junk
hey look at it this way, the twist design doesnt look bad. lol
Congratulations, you re-posted a thread from a French Canadian forum re-posted from a German forum.
[Off topic but exactly why I hate bible thumpers...2,000 years and a few languages later they say it's the truth and only the truth, lolol!]
Congratulations, you re-posted a thread from a French Canadian forum re-posted from a German forum.
[Off topic but exactly why I hate bible thumpers...2,000 years and a few languages later they say it's the truth and only the truth, lolol!]
Want a cookie for tell the history behind the thread
You passed the bullshit story on, not I. Wasuri, the OP on the French Canadian site, should get a letter from one of Rota's attorney just for not stating the facts as they were originally presented and be required to make a retraction statement and edit the post with the truth...but that won't ever happen and the damage is already done.Want a cookie for tell the history behind the thread
As for cast wheels on the race track, what do you think Team Dynamics competition wheels are? Forged wheels for 15" $150 to 19" $250 MSRP each? Not quite! THOUSANDS of club to pro race cars track those wheels every season with zero issues. (Now if you want to get technical you can start comparing the methods of casting: gravity vs. negative pressure, etc but no need to go there)
So you want to compare a wheel company that has hours of R/D behind each wheel to a company that makes a living by mass producing replicas of every proper and rare wheel developed. Come on, be for real. Yeah, you are right Team Dynamics used casting for years, but if I'm not mistaken their wheels where pretty heavy. They were not trying to use casting to make light weight wheels like Rota, Konig, and alot of other companies that uses casting to clone wheels. They were actually increasing the density of the wheels to help increase the strength of the wheels. So basically my point is casting is not a replacement for forging. If you're going to clone a wheel that was originally forge cool, atleast add some more than material to make up of lose of integrity.
pwned!
I'd use Team Dynamics wheels on a track WAY before Rotas.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
Anyone ever notice how the same 3 pics of broken Rota's are the only ones circulating the internet?
My opinion on Rota vs real wheels has changed.
I used to be one of the elitist pricks promoting real wheels blah blah, but at the end of the day, different strokes for different folks.
Well, to many on this site the ugliest piece of shit JDM wheel is better than any Rota. It's because of these dumbass pictures that float around, and the retards that promote the stories. DUDE YOUR ROTAS BROKE WHEN YOU HIT A CURB DOING 80 HAHA SHOULDA GOT VOLKS.
I would eat shit before I picked some stank ass 3 spoke Advans over a set of Slips.
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