Rotas + Track = F.A.I.L

[DunDunSkeert]

Rotas Suck

Here is proof. Here's 8 cases of Rota failure on just one website.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1455072
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...93&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=142
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9&postcount=20
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...58&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...77&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...53&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...23&postcount=1


Ya I told you so...
Why would you buy Rotas

[chameleon30038]

Rotas Suck

Here is proof. Here's 8 cases of Rota failure on just one website.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1455072
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...93&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=142
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9&postcount=20
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...58&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...77&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...53&postcount=1
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...23&postcount=1


Ya I told you so...
Why would you buy Rotas

these are horrible examples....i've been in the wheel business for some years and if you hit a pothole etc hard enough you can crack a wheel regardless if a rota, hre, volk, work, etc. Not to mention some those examples were from cars in accidents....I don't care about rotas but the examples you gave were just pretty crappy.

[green91]

Did you not actually read any of those threads? Most of them have mention of hitting potholes, debris and curbs. I see OEM & BBS wheels come into work all the time cracked from the same sorts of damage.

[DunDunSkeert]

Did you not actually read any of those threads? Most of them have mention of hitting potholes, debris and curbs. I see OEM & BBS wheels come into work all the time cracked from the same sorts of damage.

UMMM...
Sorry guys that was pretty ignorant to post that before reading them. Sometimes I'm just too lazy. I agree that any rim can get destroyed from hitting a curb, pothole, etc. But I sure have seen a lot of pictures of destroyed ROTAs. Then again it is also true that they are very popular.
Then again I would much rather have a wheel bend than break. And I sure have seen a lot of broken Rotas. So find me a bunch of pictures of broken non-rotas.
Again sorry guys.

[mushroom_toy]

Any wheel can break depending on what circumstance it goes through.





Volk:

[bigdare23]

You are 100% mushroom toy! If the original wheel has an ultimate strength of 700MPa and the fake, I mean knockoff, wheel has an ultimate strength of 300MPa, and you apply a pressure of 1000ksi, then more than likely both wheels are going to break. But, I will still rather take my chances with the companies that actually took the time out to try to increase the yield and ultimate strength of the material.

[FlipKing]

I rode on Rota Slips 15" and those wheels were light, and tough, never had any trouble and doubt I could break them if I tried

[Doppelgänger]

I've seen more Team Dynamic and BBS wheels crack then any other brand.

But I still love how people try to bash a company that has been around for nearly 30 years and has not been making "knock offs" for all of that time. Sure, you make 5 billion sets of wheels and you'll find some that fail, especially in the hands of people thrashing the living sh!t out of them. When I worked for BBS, I saw MANY sets of high end wheels AND cast wheels come in with cracked spokes....so I guess they're all crap too. I've beat the living sh!t out of a few sets of Rotas with no problems. Fuck, I rolled a car with a set of Rotas on and 2 of them had lightly bent lips that were rather repairable.

Call me dumb, but if anything were to happen to one of my wheels, i'd rather be able to call up a vendor and have a wheel at my door in 3 days rather than waiting a month for some high-end wheel to be made and sent from Japan. I have had several sets of "real deal" wheels.... so don't think i've always been a inexpensive bastard. Hell, in my garage you'll find 1 set of Enkei NT-03+M, 1 set SSR competition, 1 set Racing Harts, 1 set of Rota subzeros with slicks for track days and 1 set of Rota D2s purely for style.

The best par of this thread are the people bitching that their wheels are broken after smashing the sh!t out of them on a curb or something.
6 of those links had absolutly no argument to poor quality, 1 was somewhat questionable and the other had no pics...rendering it null and void.

[chico78]

Why the fork are people getting so worked up about this?! Who gives a crap? Im gonna go out and get some knockoffs of Rota's! They sell them on ebay. I believe they are called Nippon? Would that mean the my wheels are Fake Fake wheels?! lol. Why dont yall look at the positive part of this whole thing? Who gives a shit if your wheel breaks when you hit something or abuse them? What did you expect? I'd rather my cheap ass "fake" wheels break instead of pricey suspension components. Oh ok, so you want to say that your factory wheels didnt break when you slammed them into a curb, they just bent..............WTF?! How is that any better? You still have to replace them regardless. So it looks like "fake wheels" ftw.

[FlipKing]

I loved my slips. Imho Rota slips are good cheap solid wheels. they will deal with most things you throw at them. i was hard as hell on my Rotas(I had 4 blown shocks so the wheels to some beatings) and Never had any bending or cracking what so ever.

[green91]

I love it when a thread backfires.

[bigdare23]

I love it when a thread backfires.

Exactly how did it backfire? Oh because a group of rota fanboys came to the defense of almighty rotas. Be for real Enjoy you lesser quality, none original wheel, and I'll keep supporting the people who actually put the time and effort to come up with something original and strong

[alpine_aw11]

Exactly how did it backfire? Oh because a group of rota fanboys came to the defense of almighty rotas. Be for real Enjoy you lesser quality, none original wheel, and I'll keep supporting the people who actually put the time and effort to come up with something original and strong

Nobody is saying rotas are the best wheels. The point is, every single case of Rotas being fucked up has either been very suspicious or the owner was a fucking tard. Yes, Volks are nicer. Yes, a college kid with no money buying Volks is fucking stupid. Not all of us put the rims on our car at the highest priority. For someone on a low budget, Rotas are a good lightweight wheel that won't empty the bank account. I'm about to buy some TE37 ripoffs. Volk isn't losing my business because I think paying that much money for a set of rims right now would be one of the dumbest things I have ever done. I don't care if anyone gives me shit about them being fake, I'll actually be able to afford gas while those JDM nuthuggers are mowing lawns trying to pay off their gay-DM tight rims. Hopefully I will get a nice set of BBS/Volk rims someday, but until it's in the budget, fuck it. Rotas for me.

[MR.EM1]

Exactly how did it backfire? Oh because a group of rota fanboys came to the defense of almighty rotas. Be for real Enjoy you lesser quality, none original wheel, and I'll keep supporting the people who actually put the time and effort to come up with something original and strong

College kids/students/young folk with shit jobs

Rotas > Volks/rays/advan

[Andy_013]

College kids/students/young folk with shit jobs

Rotas > Volks/rays/advan

not true!!! I'm a college kid with a crappy job and I have enkei on my car.
The problem is that ppl don't want to wait for good deals, they want new rims ask soon as they get their car.

[bigdare23]

The problem is that ppl don't want to wait for good deals, they want new rims ask soon as they get their car.

I agree with you 100%

Everyone is in a rush so they car "stunt" at the varsity. I hear it every month, "Man I'm not going to the varsity unless my wheels come in" Overall the car scene in Atlanta is a lost cause. That's why I love it when people like ATLTSX, Bucky, DO, EJ_Allmotor, turbosohc2k, Random Hero, Gah, It's Too Hard, and NAIZBST (just to name a few) post pics of their cars. It reminds me that there are still people actually doing it big in the "scene"

[bigdare23]

College kids/students/young folk with shit jobs

Rotas > Volks/rays/advan

I'm young and in college and I rock both Mugens and SSRs. So what's you point? According to your rationale I should be on rocking Rotas...

[green91]

Well I must thank you then for being such a shining example of originality and doing it big for the Atlanta car scene by having forged wheels.

[alpine_aw11]

I do remember a guy posting up his 900+ hp Eclipse that he dragged on a set of Slips with no problems at all.......

[wantboost]

I do remember a guy posting up his 900+ hp Eclipse that he dragged on a set of Slips with no problems at all.......

I have had mugen, volk, rota, sportmax, and guess what.... they all roll the same. i dont want to leave $2000 worth of wheels alone in some parking lot...

different strokes....

[osiriskidd]

I have had mugen, volk, rota, sportmax, and guess what.... they all roll the same. i dont want to leave $2000 worth of wheels alone in some parking lot...

different strokes....

rock chips, potholes, debris will all fuq up that pretty $3k volks just like they'll fuq up $1k rotas.

[Sport1.3]

holy repost

[BobbyFresco]

The argument can be made in either direction, for any number of reasons.
Some ppl just can't justify spending what they deem too much money on wheels while some ppl enjoy the admiration and jocking that comes from flaunting a set of real deal wheels. Some ppl believe in the you get what you pay for creedo, which doesn't apply to everything, all the time. It's all subjective.

Like I stated in my previous post, I was one of those who advocated for higher line wheels and against the knock offs, or those of lesser brand name, but my opinion has changed.

With ppl getting their cars stolen left and right and with no security measure being 100% effective, spending what most would consider ridiculous money on a set of wheels that could be lost due to theft and or a traffic collision in the blink of an eye, isn't what one would consider a smart investment.

Also, think of it this way: The more fake wheels are rocked, your real deal wheels become that much more "special".

To each his or her own.

My question is... are the real deal wheels being used or just part of a showpiece, so to speak, and why are you buying the real deal wheels?
To impress all the nuthuggers online or for your own personal reasons?

[green91]

its because honda-tech says jdm fronts and mugen wheels are cool

[bigdare23]

its because honda-tech says jdm fronts and mugen wheels are cool

Yeah back in 2002

Now it's all about low offsets and slamming your car on the ground


(You dont have to beat around the bush, you could just post my screenname in you post, since I and you know all your post are directed to me )

[BobbyFresco]

This is just my opinion but hardparking is just as bad as buying "fake" wheels to fake the funk.

[89preludesi]

I personally dont give a damn if people hate on rotas or not becasue guess what ........ my ROTA JMAGS ARE SEXY AS FUCK (to me i dont care if you like them or not its my shit yo) and im proud to be a rota "fanboy" !!!!!!!! check them lol

[KevinT707]

and park it.... hard....

I personally dont give a damn if people hate on rotas or not becasue guess what ........ my ROTA JMAGS ARE SEXY AS FUCK !!!!!!!! check them lol

Don't nobody care bout your JMAGS, anywho back on subject

Continue argument on JDM tyte original wheels Vs. Rota knockoffs ..

[89preludesi]

Don't nobody care bout your JMAGS, anywho back on subject

Continue argument on JDM tyte original wheels Vs. Rota knockoffs ..

Ole Gregg does

[chico78]

doggon stupid wheel thread

[matthewAPM]

did yall say something about rota being bad track wheels??

[chico78]

here we go again.......

did yall say something about rota being bad track wheels??

[green91]

did yall say something about rota being bad track wheels??

seriously, have you not read anything in this thread?

[P-town-zenki]

intense

[DinanM3atl]

Those last 2 wheel failures have to have some sort of story. I have never seen an OEM BMW wheel fail like that... Well until a brake caliper bolt broke and the caliper flew around in the wheel and destroyed the wheel.

That looks like abuse and damage on those last 2. All spoke suddenly exploding like that? I have seen some wheel failures but that looks like something else happened. Maybe dropped a wheel off into a rut?

[BATMOBL]

I have never seen an OEM BMW wheel fail like that...

prob because OEM BMW Wheels > Rota's

[DinanM3atl]

prob because OEM BMW Wheels > Rota's

Nice selective quote...

Why don't you read what else was said...

Here I made it easy for you AND I bolded it.

Those last 2 wheel failures have to have some sort of story. I have never seen an OEM BMW wheel fail like that... Well until a brake caliper bolt broke and the caliper flew around in the wheel and destroyed the wheel.

That looks like abuse and damage on those last 2. All spoke suddenly exploding like that? I have seen some wheel failures but that looks like something else happened. Maybe dropped a wheel off into a rut?

[hondaman050]

damn my buudy has the same wheels

[FasTech]

My opinion on this matter is, I'm not going to spend $500+ on some Rota's when I can get a set of "Real" rims for another $500. Maybe less if you find a good deal.

[green91]

(You dont have to beat around the bush, you could just post my screenname in you post, since I and you know all your post are directed to me )

Sure, i think a lot of them are toward you, and the general JDM fanboy mentality. I just don't understand what your point is most of the time. You make threads like this one, spreading half-truths to try and spin your view. Are rotas the highest quality wheel? No. People put wheels on their cars that they like. You've made other threads bashing OEM wheels yet you spend tons of money on JDM oem front ends + paint. You make a point to brag about a b16 at every chance and frown upon anyone that tries something that's not mainstream. You complain about the Atlanta car scene being stale, yet you yourself seem to be locked into a honda-tech formed mold. Sometimes it just feels like you make it a point to bash anything thats not of your taste rather than embracing different ideas. The open mindedness of most EF owners has always been one of my favorite parts of the chassis and crowd. Don't take this as hate, as i still respect you. I just wish you would open your mind and appreciate the different views and ideas of other people rather than coming across so condescending. After all, if everyone had a JDM front and Mugen wheels, who would take pictures of them anymore?

/RANT

BTW, my car isnt slammed or rocks low offset wheels