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JDM
Poser
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no. it's a european g35 ... lol i don't see whats so hard to understand about my point of view.
if you want to import a rhd skyline from japan, then feel free to call it a skyline & leave it badged as a skyline...
but if you go down to your local infinity dealership and buy a g35, then low & behold it is a G35if you didnt import a skyline from japan, it aint a skyline!
what does your car's title say? it says G35. not skyline.
just like if you buy a lexus sc400 & put toyota soarer badges on it, it's still a lexus sc400!
who gives a fack? srsly.
so in that case whats the difference between having a U.S.D.M title that says "Acura Integra Type R" and a J.D.M title that says "Honda Integra Type R?" does it make people "posers" when they put H badges on a U.S.D.M ITR when they are basically the same car with some changes between them???
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The car looks awesome.
Of course it's poser-ish to put Japanese badging on an American vehicle...but at the same time, that's pretty much what the word "JDM" means.. when it comes to making a car "JDM"...
It means that you are installing upgrades, either performance-wise or cosmetically that are typically found only on the vehicle, were it sold in Japan.
To keep this simple..."JDM" in my mind means "poser". Not in a negative way, though.
It comes down to each person's interpretation of what they consider "JDM" to even mean. How can you be "JDM" but not be a poser? Eh?
different badge than what it rolled out of the factory with = posing. It may be 99% identical to its jdm counterpart, but if it don't say it on the title its not that. Honda badges on acura = gay posing. Silvia on 240sx = gay posing. Skyline on g35 = gay posing. SS badges on a z28 = gay posing.
If you ship your g35 over to japan, guess what. it does not magically become a skyline, its still a g35. If it came out of the factory with a 350z badge on it instead of a fairlady, then its not a fairlady, its a 350z.
Poser...but still sexy....
What's hard to understand is that you're assigning some magical quality to names that somehow change what a car IS. A V35 Coupe is a V35 Coupe. Period. A Z33 is a Z33. It's more poser to assign some kind of mystical significance to names like Skyline/Fairlady and the Honda/Acura fight. Call it whatever you want to call it, it's not "Poser" in the way tony meant it when he asked the question. Poser is the Honda Civic with a GT-R badge on it's front grill I saw yesterday. Poser is the V6 Mustang with "GT" badges stuck on it. If the only difference between your Ford Taurus and a Mercury Sable was the badging, I would certainly feel that it's appropriate for you to change it if you wished. It's Ironic that we're hung up on this for cars that AREN'T different USDM/JDM, but cars like the Evo that we've gotten Gimpy versions of we're OK with still calling an Evo, even if some of the biggest qualities of the JDM Evo are gone. (Same with 240sx/Silvia fight, though a 240sx with a SR20DET/CA18DET and appropriate front end should have no insult thrown at it for being rebadged to Silvia/180sx)no. it's a european g35 ... lol i don't see whats so hard to understand about my point of view.
if you want to import a rhd skyline from japan, then feel free to call it a skyline & leave it badged as a skyline...
but if you go down to your local infinity dealership and buy a g35, then low & behold it is a G35
just like if you buy a lexus sc400 & put toyota soarer badges on it, it's still a lexus sc400!
who gives a fack? srsly.
Wrong, you can get just about any car titled as a kit car. Like the people that import Skylines R32. Just because the title sayes Kit Car doesn't mean it not a real Skyline.
who cares, it's hot.
good job tony. cant wait to see this car in person.
i badged my protege as a Familia....so i guess im bias...lol
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thats cuz the Familia Garnish is so much hotter
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They don't make or sell the G35 or Skyline in Europe. WTF?no. it's a european g35 ... lol i don't see whats so hard to understand about my point of view.
if you want to import a rhd skyline from japan, then feel free to call it a skyline & leave it badged as a skyline...
but if you go down to your local infinity dealership and buy a g35, then low & behold it is a G35
just like if you buy a lexus sc400 & put toyota soarer badges on it, it's still a lexus sc400!
who gives a fack? srsly.
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Sorry you are wrong. We are talking about the G35/Skyline 350. It was never sold in Europe. Any there were gray cars imported.
Your links are for theNEW G37 and they only debuted this fall, as in 2 months ago.
Sales forecasts are very very low, 8,000-12,000 cars in Europe a year. With the global economy in the crappy, no image and average reviews recently in the Euro mags, as well as offering no diesels or hybrids, good luck.Their management is clueless.
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That car is long gone to Hawaii Ed, too much of a headache for me. I have another one now and torn between the decision to mod or just move up to something better. (wont be doing the Skyline thing again if I do mod)
aw that sucks well it was beautiful. lol
what would you consider something better?
Ok, sorry. Didn't realize that we were ONLY referring to the exact generation in the picture. Considering the fact that other people were referencing OTHER generations, It's hard to keep track of what to argue with. Regardless the idea is the same. In England there are RHD V36 Skylines being sold as Infiniti G37 Coupes. The "Your car has to be RHD to be badged as a Skyline" thing kinda falls flat there, doesn't it? (Edit: Which you may/may not have been arguing for/against. I've long forgotten where anyone else was going with this, the point was that there are at the time we're arguing this, Skylines that are RHD that are badged as Infiniti G-series. Because of this, the argument of "Your Infiniti G-series must be RHD to be a Skyline" doesn't really add up. The whole point is that Infiniti was created by Nissan to work in the American market where people see Japanese car companies as just "Econobox" companies. Hyundai is currently undergoing the same problems the Japanese luxury cars first had ages ago, and has talked about going through with the same solution and splitting cars like the Genesis Sedan off into a seperate brand the same way that the Tiburon is sold in most countries as a Tuscani Elisa.)
Second: They seem to be selling in England. Dunno about the rest of europe.
Last edited by Kaiser; 12-28-2008 at 01:04 PM.
^ An entire brand being brought to a new a continenet is a bit different than just someone rebadging a car.
For one thing, there are going to be little differences on what is mandatory for a car to be allowed sale in its designated region. I think more and more cars are built with a global mind frame so they could be sold where ever but im sure even the Nissan 350 and Infiniti G35 had different things amongst themselves.
Is that to say both cars are the same? To an extent but im of the opinion that these little things dont drastically change the car so i say there are the same.
Exactly.
With the Lexus IS 200/Toyota Altezza for example, they both debuted in Europe/Japan at the same time. The Altezza got an I-4 and the IS 200 got an I-6. We got the IS 300 with the 2JZ. At least the engines were different. Otherwise though, everything else was pretty identical.
Actually we agree, I think a G35 here re badged as a Skyline is perfectly fine and I actually prefer it that way. I've already explained how the G35 doesn't change much anything from the Skyline.
The Skyline/GT-R/G35/37 are all built in the same factory on literally the same production line. You can see GT-Rs and Skylines and G37s all mixed together.
The GT-R has always been loved in Europe and especially the U.K. The skyline/G35 gets less love there. Infiniti has finally come to Europe and had made some adjustments from the US G37, including suspension tweaks and upgraded interiors. This pissed off some Infiniti owners here who are asking "why the hell does Europe get this stuff and not us, your biggest market".
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Depends, it will be a graduation/military commission present to myself. Its between an M3 and S5.. love the style of the S5 but prefer the engine in the M3.
he speaks truth. but nice non the less
what if it has a skyline motor?
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i chose poser only b/c lack of options... JDM b/c a badge is kinda weak sauce in my mind. JDM title to me needs more then a badge. I think it would look better w/o any badges IMO
Its called custimization to me.....no posing.
Hell, you know what the car is/isn't, and hopefully car enthusiasts do too.
If you are TELLING people its a Skyline, thats ghey. If you are custimizing the car to reflect the big brother, its cool.
Like, people put Type R wings on their LS integra....so? If that same person says its a Type R, punch them in the face, lol.
Last edited by AirMax95; 12-30-2008 at 01:10 PM.
lol People who didnt know what it was would come up to me and ask if it really was a Skyline (as in R34, dont ask me why they couldn't figure it out) and I always explained that it is a G35 that has been rebadged.. which led to questions of why and blah blah.
This very thing was a long debate on the G35 boards. A lot of owners think its dumb, or degrading since Nissan is supposedly a lower tiered brand than Infiniti, while others are intrigued by the Skyline heritage.. then some people just want to be different and that was me.
It does. The G35 had identical engines to it's Japanese counterpart, though in J-land it also had some smaller engine options because of local tax laws (2.5L VQ25DE sounds hot to me to be honest)
I think your comparison misses a bit. The problem is that the Japanese Skyline V35 wasn't the "big brother" of the two, it typically came with smaller engines than the VQ35 since they were much less expensive to own, and most people didn't get the 350GT Coupe either. Even when they did, the 350GT Coupe didn't come with any features or functionality that the G35 didn't get. I know we're essentially agreeing on the fact that it's not "poser" in the sense that Tony meant it when he posted originally, not trying to argue with that, just the idea behind it so that maybe other people will see what we see.
Now, there used to be a phrase back in the late 90's early 00's called "J-spec" when getting parts from Japan was ridiculously expensive and thus real "JDM" parts sold over there had more meaning to it. Basically the same idea as the "E-code" parts for us Euros.
Skyline heritage>Infiniti heritage. Its not even close. You are right.
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I think thats what disgusted me, a lot of Infiniti guys had this elite attitude toward Nissan.. like it was beneath them. Granted the service is 10x better at an Infiniti dealership, its nothing more than a marketing ploy.
I dont care how many JDM parts you have on a fuking car, if it is from over seas or the steering wheel isn't on the other side...that shit is:
USDM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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More options were needed Tony, I just saw this thread though lol.
Your car had great styling and performance but I know you know the true answer to your question. Does it matter? Not at all.
This is such a subjective thread for anyone to argue over it means that they are close-brained.
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So having opinions is close-minded now? Because I feel that a car's identity is based on something besides what the company uses as a marketing ploy selling in a "hostile" market that isn't their home? Feh.
Why the skyline badge. When you think of skyline thats not the car that comes to mind so its not a skyline.
I'm with QD on this one.. It's not right. It's almost like someone with a V6 mustang putting the GT500KR kit on it. Just because the car could share the same name somewhere.. it doesn't make it right. But then again, this g35 is a little more tasteful than most.. It's better than a huge GTR badge on the back of it.
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Ok, so I guess you think
this looks nothing like a skyline either? It just SCREAMS Skyline to me. Let's be honest, not all Skylines are GT-R's, and it's one thing to be a GT-R fan, it's another entirely to be a true Skyline fan.
No, it's not at all the same as putting a GT500KR body kit and badging. It's as if the Mustang were sold as the Ford Juggernaut originally in another country with the exact same spec's then imported to america and rebadged as the mustang and you thought the Juggernaut name and badging fit better with your car, and you liked it better...Now do you see why your mustang comparisons simply don't work?
The only justifiable comparisons in this conversation are the Lexus/Toyota conversions, Other Nissan/Infiniti Conversions, Honda/Acura conversions, Renaming some VW's to their Euro names, the Tiburon/Tuscani Elisa, the new Pontiac GTO/Holden-Vauxhall Monaro, and other situations where the same car in two different markets carries a different name. Now your comparison could be correct if he had indeed PUT GT-R bading on it. He didn't. Skyline != GT-R. Lancer != Evo. Impreza != STi. Skylines Coupes have always been big beautiful sedan sized 2-door's. GT-R's are those same Coupes with a homologation-required aero/drivetrain package. The same way that STi and Evo came about.
It's your car. Do what you like to it. As long as ur happy with it then F everybody else. Now I have an Eclipse GST and I put Evo 8 wheels on it, I love Evo's. When my turbo goes I'm putting an Evo 3 16G on it. Some will say my car isn't "JDM" bc it's made in the US others will respect how F-in clean the Evo stuff is on it. I don't care. Just be happy and mod to your taste. On a side note, I have been into cars for a LONG time and I have seen several trends in the Honda world. "JDM" styling has always been around. It's just the newest trend for most. It will be replaced one day and the "JDM" purists will keep their cars styled that way. The others will follow the flock and remod. I've seen it many times. One small example, Hondas used to be referred to as gen's or 92-95 etc, now there referred to as Chassis codes. Part of the "JDM" styling.
-Just mod to your taste and maybe someone will like it. Either way you win for doing what you love.
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i'll just say clean.
The only thing different about the car is the badges, and the left hand drive, (of course) but I think its fine to put those original badges on the car. Because That IS what the car really is.
This ***** knows whats up. This is exactly how the whole JDM EDM UKDM CDM KDM........whatever badgeing can be described
JDM = RICE
the car is sexy.. i think it'd be dickish for anyone to disagree or call it anything but sexy.
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