*-*H23/VTEC*-*H-Series Build Questions

[Vteckidd]

Now for the answer you dont want to hear.

ITS STUPID, DONT DO IT.

Unless you have $5000 to spend, you wont be able to do it right and youll end up like youre last car, tons of problems and selling it for a discount.

If you can really sit here and rationalize to the NA Gurus of IA that .1 liter is worth the effort of doing stupid unreliable hybrid crap, please, enlighten me.

The H23/H22 Vtec is not nearly as simple as the LSVTEC. The h23 bottom end is a long stroke which means you cant utilize the RPMs that VTEC needs to make power.

The H23 is usually a tired old worn out engine, ive never seen one in good shape. So that means youre going to be doing a rebuild at minimum. Bearings, ARP Bolts, Balancing, etc.

Then you have the pesky Conversion to do, not hard, but now you need a headgasket, oil lines, machine work, etc.

Unless you are doing a BUILT motor the Hybrid VTEC stuff is STUPID.

Buy an H22, it will make 190whp STOCK. And H23 VTEC will make the same but unless you rebuild it WILL BLOW UP/SPIN A BEARING/BLOW A HEADGASKET.

You can sit here an try to justify how much BETTER it is, but ive been around a long time, unless you have the CASH to really rebuild it and do it RIGHT, its a WORTHLESS SWAP.

Youll have more headaches on your hands than power.

H22 longblocks are $900-1000 COM<PLETE. If you are bitching about that, then you shouldnt be doing a H23/VTEC swap, you just dont have the money to do it right, and thats ok.

[.::UNKNOWN::.]

Now for the answer you dont want to hear.

ITS STUPID, DONT DO IT.

Unless you have $5000 to spend, you wont be able to do it right and youll end up like youre last car, tons of problems and selling it for a discount.

If you can really sit here and rationalize to the NA Gurus of IA that .1 liter is worth the effort of doing stupid unreliable hybrid crap, please, enlighten me.

The H23/H22 Vtec is not nearly as simple as the LSVTEC. The h23 bottom end is a long stroke which means you cant utilize the RPMs that VTEC needs to make power.

The H23 is usually a tired old worn out engine, ive never seen one in good shape. So that means youre going to be doing a rebuild at minimum. Bearings, ARP Bolts, Balancing, etc.

Then you have the pesky Conversion to do, not hard, but now you need a headgasket, oil lines, machine work, etc.

Unless you are doing a BUILT motor the Hybrid VTEC stuff is STUPID.

Buy an H22, it will make 190whp STOCK. And H23 VTEC will make the same but unless you rebuild it WILL BLOW UP/SPIN A BEARING/BLOW A HEADGASKET.

You can sit here an try to justify how much BETTER it is, but ive been around a long time, unless you have the CASH to really rebuild it and do it RIGHT, its a WORTHLESS SWAP.

Youll have more headaches on your hands than power.

H22 longblocks are $900-1000 COM<PLETE. If you are bitching about that, then you shouldnt be doing a H23/VTEC swap, you just dont have the money to do it right, and thats ok.

hate to say it but i agree with his statement with the money spent on an h23 vtec you could have bought a type s motor, euro r motor, or bought a h22a.... then bought the type s pistons cams and euro r intake mani and built your own type s... but like i said you can do what you do just do it right the first time

[JDMirza]

Now for the answer you dont want to hear.

ITS STUPID, DONT DO IT.

Unless you have $5000 to spend, you wont be able to do it right and youll end up like youre last car, tons of problems and selling it for a discount.

If you can really sit here and rationalize to the NA Gurus of IA that .1 liter is worth the effort of doing stupid unreliable hybrid crap, please, enlighten me.

The H23/H22 Vtec is not nearly as simple as the LSVTEC. The h23 bottom end is a long stroke which means you cant utilize the RPMs that VTEC needs to make power.

The H23 is usually a tired old worn out engine, ive never seen one in good shape. So that means youre going to be doing a rebuild at minimum. Bearings, ARP Bolts, Balancing, etc.

Then you have the pesky Conversion to do, not hard, but now you need a headgasket, oil lines, machine work, etc.

Unless you are doing a BUILT motor the Hybrid VTEC stuff is STUPID.

Buy an H22, it will make 190whp STOCK. And H23 VTEC will make the same but unless you rebuild it WILL BLOW UP/SPIN A BEARING/BLOW A HEADGASKET.

You can sit here an try to justify how much BETTER it is, but ive been around a long time, unless you have the CASH to really rebuild it and do it RIGHT, its a WORTHLESS SWAP.

Youll have more headaches on your hands than power.

H22 longblocks are $900-1000 COM<PLETE. If you are bitching about that, then you shouldnt be doing a H23/VTEC swap, you just dont have the money to do it right, and thats ok.

The guru has spoken.