WHY does everyone seem let down by the GTR

[alpine_aw11]

When the r34 came out im sure the maintenace was crazy also. And now people are familliar with the car. So you wont have to go the dealer to repair or maintenance.

Im sur ethe 35 is jsut as reliable as the 34.

And HOW MANY CARS CAN YOU MOD AND NOT VOID THE WARRANTY? Cmon man you can throw a exhaust on a civic and the warranty will be voided..

and how do u know which will be easier to maintain in the end.. the car hasnt even been released for a year?

You absolutely cannot do maintenance on a GTR in your driveway. They took that aspect away that the older models had. Don't get me wrong, I love them and they're great cars. They just don't seem to fit the mold of the older generation Skylines. Granted, a GTR is a much better car from the factory than the older generations, but as of now it doesn't have the potential. We'll see how it goes when it can be extensively modded.

[JITB]

You absolutely cannot do maintenance on a GTR in your driveway. They took that aspect away that the older models had. Don't get me wrong, I love them and they're great cars. They just don't seem to fit the mold of the older generation Skylines. Granted, a GTR is a much better car from the factory than the older generations, but as of now it doesn't have the potential. We'll see how it goes when it can be extensively modded.

how do u know? you cna jack up a GTR remove the underpanels, and change the oil just like any other car.. just like u would to your car. How many modified cars actually go to the dealer anyway for anything. i mean people by bentleys and dont touch them either. they go to the dealer for their services.

When any high-perf car is released the warranty bug always bites the owners. Remember when subaru/ mitsu was voiding warranties on cars that were registered with the Scca? i mean this stuff isnt new. The dealer wants to make money, and they are not their to fix anyone elses mistakes form poorly installing parts, or tearing up their car on a race track. The GTR is no different from any specialty vehicle, it comes with a warranty like any base model nissan, but it being a performance car the buyers are expected to abuse it, thats what its made for.

You take a car to any shop, while its still under warranty... and than try to take it to the dealer.. They aint touchin it, under that warranty.. Cmon you all know how it goes. Why is this a big deal or even a issue.

POTENTIAL!
GTR NO POTENIAL!
GTR HAS NO POTENTIAL!!
HE SAID THE GTR HAS NO POTENTIAL!!

[Glides]

how do u know? you cna jack up a GTR remove the underpanels, and change the oil just like any other car.. just like u would to your car. How many modified cars actually go to the dealer anyway for anything. i mean people by bentleys and dont touch them either. they go to the dealer for their services.

As of right now. You touch ANYTHING on that car. You void the warranty. YES that means jacking it up, removing the underpanels and changing the oil. Do that, and you are without warranty. That is Factory. A dealer may tell you differently so that you buy the car, but per Nissan factory. You are screwed.

As for the GTR having no potential......um.....i'm gonna stand next to you and make funny faces on that one. NO POTENTIAL?!?!?!?!

Some companies have already developed parts for it. Mines has an exhaust that makes an extra 20hp more. Now, this catback system is NOT approved for the car. Some Japanese dealers are turning a blind eye to it or so the story goes. But in the end, they can strip your car of the warranty for changing it out. Now thats IN JAPAN that you might find them turning a blind eye. Not here. BIG difference between the 2.

Having worked in both the dealer and as a claims adjuster for Ford, I can tell you that in the end, all the warranty has to do is point to the line in the paragraph that says, "No modification". And that is that..if they want too. I have warrantied peoples cars with exhausts, cold air intakes, suspension mods (done right), and many others. But thats at the claims adjusters discretion. Most times you will not find a person that knows jakc**** about cars behind the phone and they will deny right away leaving you to fight it and 99% of the time lose. Then, they strip the warranty and you are left with nothing. Aftermarket warranties are different.

In the end, it boils down to a choice. Do you want your already fast car to go faster or don't you. If you do, then say bye bye to the warranty like a man and do what you want to do. If not, don't.

But the warranty is NOT the reason why people are dissappointed. It is the difference between pre-release test car numbers and showroom delivery cars.
You can complain about warrenties all day, but you are barking up the wrong tree.

[JITB]

As of right now. You touch ANYTHING on that car. You void the warranty. YES that means jacking it up, removing the underpanels and changing the oil. Do that, and you are without warranty. That is Factory. A dealer may tell you differently so that you buy the car, but per Nissan factory. You are screwed.

As for the GTR having no potential......um.....i'm gonna stand next to you and make funny faces on that one. NO POTENTIAL?!?!?!?!

Some companies have already developed parts for it. Mines has an exhaust that makes an extra 20hp more. Now, this catback system is NOT approved for the car. Some Japanese dealers are turning a blind eye to it or so the story goes. But in the end, they can strip your car of the warranty for changing it out. Now thats IN JAPAN that you might find them turning a blind eye. Not here. BIG difference between the 2.

Having worked in both the dealer and as a claims adjuster for Ford, I can tell you that in the end, all the warranty has to do is point to the line in the paragraph that says, "No modification". And that is that..if they want too. I have warrantied peoples cars with exhausts, cold air intakes, suspension mods (done right), and many others. But thats at the claims adjusters discretion. Most times you will not find a person that knows jakc**** about cars behind the phone and they will deny right away leaving you to fight it and 99% of the time lose. Then, they strip the warranty and you are left with nothing. Aftermarket warranties are different.

In the end, it boils down to a choice. Do you want your already fast car to go faster or don't you. If you do, then say bye bye to the warranty like a man and do what you want to do. If not, don't.

But the warranty is NOT the reason why people are dissappointed. It is the difference between pre-release test car numbers and showroom delivery cars.
You can complain about warrenties all day, but you are barking up the wrong tree.

i know the warranty will be voided.. for anything. Its nothing new...with any new performance car, manufacturers are anal with their warranties. i didnt say the GTR has no potential.. other guy did... i was just shocked he would say such a insane thing.

And i dont know where u get the pre-release numbers wrong? The GTR hasnt let us down with production numbers either. They are pretty much the same as what they said it would be. They said 480hp at the crank.. And reportedly makes up to 550hp at the crank. Where are u all getting this information from?

[alpine_aw11]

i know the warranty will be voided.. for anything. Its nothing new...with any new performance car, manufacturers are anal with their warranties. i didnt say the GTR has no potential.. other guy did... i was just shocked he would say such a insane thing.

And i dont know where u get the pre-release numbers wrong? The GTR hasnt let us down with production numbers either. They are pretty much the same as what they said it would be. They said 480hp at the crank.. And reportedly makes up to 550hp at the crank. Where are u all getting this information from?

I never said it had no potential...jesus christ.