My take:

*The average MPG thing is a toy, its not like the Japs cant do it, they just dont care to.

* The window thing: What are you talking about? If you're talking about indexing - its done to prevent water from entering the cabin. Hell even american cars do this!

* Turbos: These TT setups spool up pretty quick, dont under-estimate em! The 911TT has the same problem so its a moot point.

* Sorry but the M3 motor is sorely lacking in the torque department. You're talking about it like its an American V8, and that is simply not the case.
The S65 has 295 max torque and a VERY impressive torque curve that holds rock steady at 250ft/lb from 2k on up - impressive!

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Exhaust: This is highly subjective, but I'll stick to american V8s in the department. Nothing quite like it! However if you want high revin insane exhaust notes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYYbHvwGCPo

Quote Originally Posted by Blitanicle99
One of the biased things for me is, Ive owned older german cars. The things even the old german cars do, the Japs still havent done.

For instance, my 1988 Jetta GLI had a average mpg feature. That was a cheap sport fwd German car made in the 80s. I have yet to see a similiar Japanese car with something as cool.

Or, the E36 coupe BMWs windows roll down about a half an inch when you open and go back up that half an inch when you close to make better aero-dynamics.


Specs mean nothing to me, overall driving experiance and how the cars are made are more to me.

**Also, the GTR is a Turbo 6 cylinder. When you give it some hell the turbo has to spool up to get the rear end sideways.


However... The M3 is a V8 HOSS. Take off the TC and itll romp those tires at 2k all you want.


Moving on to exhaust tones.... The GTR sounds cool when the turbo spools up and whines up the motor... Where-as the V8 M3... You can hear from a mile away roaring like hells angels coming to rip your face off.

Now, to me a sports car should sound like something is coming to kill you, your family, and wreck your town in the process. And truely, there is nothing like the V8 throating sinister growl.