Quote Originally Posted by redGT
You're kidding right? The GTR is an appliance? Tell that to Ferrari, who has more systems than a GTR, that what they produce isn't a sports car it's a toaster oven.
No need to get all worked up, I'm just old fashioned. I get a lot more into the man/machine connection than I do into dropping a bunch of money on a car that does all of it for you and doesn't let you make it your own. And on that score, the Z06 beats the GT-R for me. A few simple mods (because the Vette will actually allow it) and it'll outrun the GT-R. But yeah, stock for stock the GT-R is incredible.

But I guess everything is going to end up being nothing but techno-wizardry eventually, it's just the natural progression.

I'm really in awe of how much grip and speed they can get out of the GT-R and all of the other supercars that are riddled with computers these days, but it very nearly takes the driver out of the picture and that kills the fun for me.