TO ALL THE ZR1 LOVERS! LOL@ PRICETAG

[Alan®]

yea sorry i ment to put the comment about gm's debt seperately but eh. anyways any one that pays close to a hlaf million for a 120k car is an idiot.

[Roadster]

Anybody that has $400k to drop on a car probably isn't an idiot. Unless they were born into it or inherited it, but we all know that if it were one of us with that kind of money, it'd definitely be burning a hole in our pockets too. I'll be the first to admit that I'm jealous of those that get to see a ZR1 in the garage.

But when it comes down to the driving experience aspect of the Corvette vs. GT-R debate, I'd still take a damn ZO6 (instead of ZR1, because the prices are realistically comparable) over the GT-R--even if it is slower in showroom stock numbers--, because at least the Vette still lets the driver do the driving. The GT-R is an appliance, not a sports car.

[Alan®]

Anybody that has $400k to drop on a car probably isn't an idiot. Unless they were born into it or inherited it, but we all know that if it were one of us with that kind of money, it'd definitely be burning a hole in our pockets too. I'll be the first to admit that I'm jealous of those that get to see a ZR1 in the garage.

But when it comes down to the driving experience aspect of the Corvette vs. GT-R debate, I'd still take a damn ZO6 (instead of ZR1, because the prices are realistically comparable) over the GT-R--even if it is slower in showroom stock numbers--, because at least the Vette still lets the driver do the driving. The GT-R is an appliance, not a sports car.

You're kidding right? The GTR is an appliance? Tell that to Ferrari, who has more systems than a GTR, that what they produce isn't a sports car it's a toaster oven.

Anybody that has $400k to drop on a car probably isn't an idiot.

This statement is incomplete.

Anybody that has $400k to drop on a car probably isn't an idiot. But anyone who does needs to donate the $400k to charity. At the end of the day it's still just a corvette. IMHO GTR>Z06>ZR-1.

on a car probably isn't an idiot. Unless they were born into it or inherited it, but we all know that if it were one of us with that kind of money, it'd definitely be burning a hole in our pockets too.

Yes it would be but not on a ZR-1. I'd buy:
GTR-$70k
Supra-$30
Ferrari 550 Barchetta-$200k
Maseratti Quatroportte-$100

[Roadster]

You're kidding right? The GTR is an appliance? Tell that to Ferrari, who has more systems than a GTR, that what they produce isn't a sports car it's a toaster oven.

No need to get all worked up, I'm just old fashioned. I get a lot more into the man/machine connection than I do into dropping a bunch of money on a car that does all of it for you and doesn't let you make it your own. And on that score, the Z06 beats the GT-R for me. A few simple mods (because the Vette will actually allow it) and it'll outrun the GT-R. But yeah, stock for stock the GT-R is incredible.

But I guess everything is going to end up being nothing but techno-wizardry eventually, it's just the natural progression.

I'm really in awe of how much grip and speed they can get out of the GT-R and all of the other supercars that are riddled with computers these days, but it very nearly takes the driver out of the picture and that kills the fun for me.

[man]

You're kidding right? The GTR is an appliance? Tell that to Ferrari, who has more systems than a GTR, that what they produce isn't a sports car it's a toaster oven.

A Ferrari is still a drivers car though. The GT-R is fast but from what I've seen it doesn't look that exciting to drive.

Some people are drivers, some just like going fast.

[Elbow]

You're kidding right? The GTR is an appliance? Tell that to Ferrari, who has more systems than a GTR, that what they produce isn't a sports car it's a toaster oven.


This statement is incomplete.

Anybody that has $400k to drop on a car probably isn't an idiot. But anyone who does needs to donate the $400k to charity. At the end of the day it's still just a corvette. IMHO GTR>Z06>ZR-1.

Yes it would be but not on a ZR-1. I'd buy:
GTR-$70k
Supra-$30
Ferrari 550 Barchetta-$200k
Maseratti Quatroportte-$100

You are a DUMB ASS sir.

A Ferrari is a toaster oven? Right. Not anyone cand drive a Ferrari fast, and they even make cars where NOTHING is on it, raw ****! The GTR is a PIECE, over priced Japanese piece of ****. Comparing the ZR1 and GTR is like comparing a F430 and a Civic SI.

[Alan®]

You are a DUMB ASS sir.

A Ferrari is a toaster oven? Right. Not anyone cand drive a Ferrari fast, and they even make cars where NOTHING is on it, raw ****! The GTR is a PIECE, over priced Japanese piece of ****. Comparing the ZR1 and GTR is like comparing a F430 and a Civic SI.

Reading comprehension is key my friend. I didn't say that the ferrari is a toaster oven. I said that calling the GTR an appliance is like calling a ferrari a toaster oven.

I would still hardly call the GTR a piece. And obviously the comparisson can be made since GM were the ones to call it out. If they didn't want people to compare the two they wouldn't have called it out. THE ZR-1 has 100+ hp on the GTR and only ran a marginally faster lap time than a base GTR. The spec v will blow it out of the water no question.

[chhs_lax]

You are a DUMB ASS sir.

A Ferrari is a toaster oven? Right. Not anyone cand drive a Ferrari fast, and they even make cars where NOTHING is on it, raw ****! The GTR is a PIECE, over priced Japanese piece of ****. Comparing the ZR1 and GTR is like comparing a F430 and a Civic SI.

If the GTR is a piece what's that make your Miata? I'm not trying to insult you or anything but that's just an incredibly retarded statement to make. You're just saying that for the sake of being a douchebag, you don't have any substantial evidence that would make a GTR a "piece" as you called it.