Dude you guys are F**K*N AWSOME!! PM me and lemme know how much they run for. I was thinkin of just chipping it Instead of hondata. It sounds cheaper and has the same eficiency. But yeah its just an 00 Civic EX. With getting stage one cams i dont have to do head work will i? Like i said i dont wanna spend ubber amounts on money on the motor considering its my daily. i just wanna make it alittle bit more then it already has and make it look decent. Im going to track down a del sol to do my fun stuff with! But thanks for the GREAT imput guys.. and please keep them coming!