The 3,000 Mile Oil Change 'Myth'

[Sammich]

where the flip is blackstone?

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where the flip is blackstone?

x74

[scottyb]

where the flip is blackstone?

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/gas_engines.html

there are others, just google "oil analysis."

they tell you exactly what to do and what to expect on their website. i will likely use them on my next oilchange to see if i can take my oil change interval out to 6k or 7k miles.

[Axon360]

I usually change the oil in my bike every 3k miles, cars every 5k miles...my dad had an 89' Camaro he bought when it had 120k mi on it and never changed the fluids, just refilled them as needed.. it got 320k and threw a rod!

[green91]

Oil is contaminated by the combustion process and is further contaminated on worn engines with alot of blowby. I change mine every 3-4k with mobil 5w30 fossil oil. i see TONS of 200k+ cars & trucks that have never had anything but 5w30 fossil oil and still run good.

[slostang]

8.50? WHERE ARE YOU PAYING THAT? I GET IT FOR $7.20 @ OREILYS

at oreilys

[cactusEG]

x2 $8.50 per quart for teh lewse.

I know right ? I'll stick to me castrol 10-40. till I get a swap or boost...

[OTG Signs]

5,000 at the dealer with free wash = $32

Bought it there, might as well maintain it there too.

[koukis14]

3-5k Mobile One full synthetic no matter what.

[southside]

I typically go 5000 miles. That's just being on the safe side. Rotella is inexpensive and plentiful. I could go farther, but I don't.

Where can you find Rotella and how do you know what kind to get.If you use like 5w30 what kind of Rotella should you get?I never heard of them before.And what about fossil oils whats good about that?

[southside]

But for now Ill be running Supertech (break-in) and after that Ill be running mobil 5000

[Ch0psticks11]

nice find on the article....i always just stuck to the 3000 mile rule. castrol 5w-30 plus a wix filter. but i think i'm gonna go back to the fram tough guard. it's just easier to take off a fram filter with the grip, lol

[sikfricks]

fram sucks balls dont do it

[slostang]

fram sucks balls dont do it

x2, just use a filter wrench.

[BanginJimmy]

truck valvoline high milage full synthetic 10w-30 twice a year, spring break, then again around labor day. I have about 5k miles in that time.

crapalier whatever is on sale, whenever I decide to change it. I have gone more than 10k miles before on <$2.00 a quart oil.

Vue Castrol GTX 10w-30 in summer and 5w-30 in winter. 3-4k miles as most of the driving is city.

[03RCode]

Where can you find Rotella and how do you know what kind to get.If you use like 5w30 what kind of Rotella should you get?I never heard of them before.And what about fossil oils whats good about that?

Rotella is all 15/40. Its designed for diesels mainly, I've never run it in any gas burning vehicle except my 500,000 mile F150. Wal Mart seems to be the cheapest place to buy it.

[03RCode]

nice find on the article....i always just stuck to the 3000 mile rule. castrol 5w-30 plus a wix filter. but i think i'm gonna go back to the fram tough guard. it's just easier to take off a fram filter with the grip, lol

Stick with the Wix filter. IMO Wix are the best generic filter out there. Dana-Spicer Corp. makes them, the Napa brand filters are also rebranded Wix filters.

I DO NOT like Fram. They lack an anti-drainback valve, the metal they use in them rusts on the inside, and they lack the extra filtration of a good filter. I used to take filters off cars after the oil change, and cut them in 2 to see how the inside looks after 3,000 miles and the Fram was enough to literally make you worry about running it on your vehicle. From pieces of the filter itself breaking loose and circulating with your oil, to the whole inside of the canister covered in rust.

[Sammich]

i have seen two grades of rotella...

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now i see why fram is talked bad about...i guess i will change from fram now

[03RCode]

See my above post. And really? I've only seen the one, but then again thats all I've ever looked for was 15/40.

[Sammich]

yea, i saw 15w 40 and another weight in advance just the other day, because i was going to get some for my truck since its got high mileage and i need to thicken the oil anyway

[AnthonyF]

2k-2500 miles ONLY for me.

-Ant.

[Sammich]

if i did that...i'd be changing every 2-3weeks

[mushroom_toy]

i think i'm going to switch to rotella in my truck because my timing chain is 'ticking'...i'm going to try the lucas oil stabilizer again first, then if that dont work, rotella, then if that dont work...go back to castrol, then wait for the motor to blow then....1jz engine time lol

You know its probably just the timing chain guides. Toyota for whatever reason used plastic guides for our trucks back in the day, and these usually break, then the timing chain starts slapping against the walls, so If I were you I would just get some metal ones and be done with it. Mine has metal ones, they were replaces years ago lol.

[mushroom_toy]

I run Havoline 10w40 in my 86 Accord, 406,000 mile Honda, with a bosch or wix filter. I usually change my oil every 3-6k depending on whenever I get around to it. The Honda has always had 10w30 ran in it, but then I switched to 10w40, since my small oil burning on highway.

I use Shell 10w40 in my 79' Kawasaki 400, with a kawi filter. I have only changed the oil once since Ive had it since ive only driven it about 20+- miles.

I run Mobil 1 full synthetic 10w30 in my 91 Toyota pickup, with a bosch filter.

To me the best filters are either the Bosch or Wix filters.

[Sammich]

i just went into the head when i blew my headgasket(dumb me). i dont think i replaced the guides though...

[Sammich]

I run Havoline 10w40 in my 86 Accord, 406,000 mile Honda, with a bosch or wix filter. I usually change my oil every 3-6k depending on whenever I get around to it. The Honda has always had 10w30 ran in it, but then I switched to 10w40, since my small oil burning on highway.

I use Shell 10w40 in my 79' Kawasaki 400, with a kawi filter. I have only changed the oil once since Ive had it since ive only driven it about 20+- miles.

I run Mobil 1 full synthetic 10w30 in my 91 Toyota pickup, with a bosch filter.

To me the best filters are either the Bosch or Wix filters.

u run synthetic in the p/u? how many miles did you have on the motor before u started using synthetic?

[03RCode]

You know its probably just the timing chain guides. Toyota for whatever reason used plastic guides for our trucks back in the day, and these usually break, then the timing chain starts slapping against the walls, so If I were you I would just get some metal ones and be done with it. Mine has metal ones, they were replaces years ago lol.

He speaks the truth, things get ugly when the guides break. Seen many a 22R with a busted timing cover.

[mushroom_toy]

i just went into the head when i blew my headgasket(dumb me). i dont think i replaced the guides though...

You should definitely do it. Also you might just need to adjust the valves, and of course you know the toyota tick is usually just the loud injectors. Ever 22r/22re Ive heard around here either has a little valve adjustment problem or the loud ass fuel injector tick, like mine.

[mushroom_toy]

u run synthetic in the p/u? how many miles did you have on the motor before u started using synthetic?

234k before the switch, and im noticing a small leak now that I use the synthetic, but I think its just the oil pan gasket that hasnt ever been replaced, but I dont drive the truck right now anyway, so it may just be from sitting so long.

[Sammich]

dang...i maybe able to do the switch especially since i redid my seals on my truck i should be fine

[blackshine007]

Where can you find Rotella and how do you know what kind to get.If you use like 5w30 what kind of Rotella should you get?I never heard of them before.And what about fossil oils whats good about that?

Shell Rotella can be found @ walmart for $9.27 for a gallon. I just found out that they do Full synthetic too.

234k before the switch, and im noticing a small leak now that I use the synthetic, but I think its just the oil pan gasket that hasnt ever been replaced, but I dont drive the truck right now anyway, so it may just be from sitting so long.

SYnthetic is a micro lubricator and most of the time will create leaks on older vehicles or at least on vehicles with higher mileage.

[Sammich]

the whole top end(head) on my truck has been redone...so i figure i should be fine...

[ironchef]

Just letting the dealership take care of it. Got the car with 0 miles, they changed it at 5k, 15k, and 25k. Synthetic everytime.

[Sammich]

what do u have...vdub?

[ironchef]

Sorta, Audi.

[Sammich]

vdub makes audi right

[ironchef]

Vdub owns Audi, but they make their own stuff, however there is parts sharing between the two.

[Sammich]

gotcha...i always see vw on both under the hood, thats why i asked