I got an Idea ZR1 vs GTR

[Kevykev]

So you're not waiting on the vspec? That means you're comparing Chevy's top production car to Nissan's second tier. I call shenanigans.

Well... I put that as an option but it seems that people are "GAME" for the GTR - ZR1 Comparo.



***** There is Another $5 Bet on the table ******

Someone needs to oppose RUFFIAN.

JITB- NO CATEGORIES for now, I see that causing issues for obvious reasons. Were going on -Overall Winner-

Only thing you get to agree on is the review company ie: Car and Driver, Top Gear etc.

[yerrow]

shuddup

[Elbow]

$50 on the Vette

[Alan®]

So you're not waiting on the vspec? That means you're comparing Chevy's top production car to Nissan's second tier. I call shenanigans.

Why? They just said that the Zr-1 was gonna knock down the GTR's nurburgring time down as it stands now.The ZR-1 is nothing but a street legal race car. while I won't be surprised if it out performs I wouldn't want one to drive around in everyday.

[DieselNuts]

I wouldn't want one to drive around in everyday.

I know opinions are like a$$holes, but thats what Jeremy Clarkston said about the C6 ZO6.

[Thighs]

ill put 50 on the zr1. **** the gtr.

[EJ25RUN]

this is lame.

[Alan®]

I know opinions are like a$$holes, but thats what Jeremy Clarkston said about the C6 ZO6.

Don't get me wrong the Z06 was an awesome car but I've ridden in one and that had to be one of the most uncomfortable rides I've ever been in

[Kevykev]

EJ25RUN, you showed up later that anticipated only to insult my thread - i am very disappointed in you sir.





Jesse with a $50 Bet??? WOW!!! Who will Match that?

REAL MONEY FOLKS, NO Turning back either!!!

shuddup

Next time you're closing shop, I might just throw an object through the window...

[Thighs]

actually simon had the first 50... lol

[Kevykev]

actually simon had the first 50... lol

My B, My B, Simon was first indeed

Need (2) $50 GTR Bets!

Any Takers?


Remember we're going on Overall - as in "OVERALL TOP GEAR PICKS THE _ _ _ over the _ _ _ !!!


Keep that in mind folks

[DieselNuts]

Don't get me wrong the Z06 was an awesome car but I've ridden in one and that had to be one of the most uncomfortable rides I've ever been in

I know what you are saying, Im just saying that Jeremy Clarkston agrees w/your opinion

[EJ25RUN]

EJ25RUN, you showed up later that anticipated only to insult my thread - i am very disappointed in you sir.

i frequent 5 forums and it has been beaten beyond death. not trying to take away from your thread.

[khan351]

ive got my money on the ZR1

[Kevykev]

i frequent 5 forums and it has been beaten beyond death. not trying to take away from your thread.

There are Betting threads on other forums?


Well, then again, it wouldn't be a surprise whatsoever.


I just figured that the people arguing over this topic for months need to put their $$$ where their mouf izzz.

[seanrg1116]

IMHO not a fair race



600+hp vs. 470hp
3300lbs 3800+lbs

we already know that the Z06 will start to walk on the gtr at 100mphs so whats the point.
The only way for this to be a fair bet would be with the V-spec

[DieselNuts]

IMHO not a fair race



600+hp vs. 470hp
3300lbs 3800+lbs

we already know that the Z06 will start to walk on the gtr at 100mphs so whats the point.
The only way for this to be a fair bet would be with the V-spec

GTR=AWD
ZR1=RWD

that should make up for the lack of hp in the shortline acceleration category...

[JITB]

IMHO not a fair race



600+hp vs. 470hp
3300lbs 3800+lbs

we already know that the Z06 will start to walk on the gtr at 100mphs so whats the point.
The only way for this to be a fair bet would be with the V-spec

if it was that simple...there would be no need to race!

[Thighs]

^^it is that simple.

vspec will be closer, but it will still lose.

and i thought we were betting on the ring lap times?

[Kevykev]

and i thought we were betting on the ring lap times?

You can, but people aren't getting together and agreeing on anything.

We need a $50 GTR guy so you two can collaborate.

[type_r]

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.

[Oz10]

zr1 ftw

[JITB]

^^it is that simple.

vspec will be closer, but it will still lose.

and i thought we were betting on the ring lap times?

lol if u say so!

zonda
carrera Gt
GT2
koenigsegg

are all lighter, and have more power than the gtr...and put up slower times..

BUT THE ZR1 has been seen running 7:40's on the ring..already..

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/c...v-spec-amused/

But it was said to be
"Damp track, 2 occupants, Unofficial time measured by bystanders at the track."

[Alan®]

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.

noob alert

[OneSlow5pt0]

thats what i dont under stand..u have a 3900 pound car making 4xxhp,awd......and it can beat a 1900 pound Mid-engine 400hp car.......just doesnt add up to me

[JITB]

thats what i dont under stand..u have a 3900 pound car making 4xxhp,awd......and it can beat a 1900 pound Mid-engine 400hp car.......just doesnt add up to me

it is a little crazy... but "what is power without control"..like pirelli says..lol

[OneSlow5pt0]

it is a little crazy... but "what is power without control"..like pirelli says..lol

yea,the car im tlaking bout ti my fav noble m400,which pulls a 1.5g,0-60 in 2.9sec and top speed of 197mph....which weighs right round 2k pounds,its amazing machine,more so then either the ZR1 or GTR,imo........but then agian it is a race car built for the Street,not a DD..like these could be

[type_r]

noob alert

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one

[DieselNuts]

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one

Welcome to the internet. Forums are built for the sole purpose of people being able to communicate with others and share opinions. Take what people say with a grain of salt and you will live to see another day.

That being said....ZR1 FTMFW!!!!!!!!

[OneSlow5pt0]

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one

where is this **** talking coming from?

if anything the GTR is getting overrated all ready,and being praise as greatest car ever,just like that tank veyron did

[Elbow]

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.

.....lol.........no.

[type_r]

The same thing that happened with the GTR being overrated is going to happen with the zr1, there are fanboys everywhere in all shapes and sizes. A lot of people are just going to say zr1 because they dont like GTR's, it's all relative. It's all personal taste. With supercars like these it's not so much who goes faster, whether you buy a V-spec or a zr1 it's not like you wont be satisfied on the street. I just want someone to explain to me their hatred for GTR's as it doesn't make sense to me.

[JITB]

so u all think the zr1, can drop 15 seconds, off the clock. without a passenger, and on a completly dry track....

gtr ran a 7:32 on a damp track..

[Alan®]

ok, douche alert

All I'm saying is there's no point in downgrading a GTR. What the **** is wrong with a GTR? Obviously a zr1 has the ingredients to best one, but I dont understand all the people talking **** about GTR's like their eclipse could ever touch one

Wow you still didn't get what I was getting at. Here let me break both of your posts down for you.

All I have to say is lol at the people talking **** about the GTR's....... yea the interior is garbage but who gives a **** if you want a car for the experience of driving it(i.e. anyone who buys a GTR) it shouldn't matter. But zr1 will win in a straight line, however I personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such.

I really don't see where people are talking **** about the car more are simply stating their opinoin.

I agree with you on the interior part but something to consider.
1.It's a Nissan not an Infinity
2. For 70k you should still be getting a nice interior like you do
in the porsche it rivals

As far as the people buying this car. Cars like these are more a status thing. I have found that people who buy cars like these and the Z06 or the ZR1 for that matter really don't know squat about their car.

This is why I called you a noob

personally would rather have a v-spec due to AWD and such

The V-Spec isn't even out yet and the GTR base model has AWD so what the hell are you talking about?

I won't even adress your even noobier post because no one in this thread including me have said that their cars could even slightly hold a candle to either of these cars. Both of these cars are built to be streetable race cars. IMHO. The GTR will win the all around better car contest hands down put me in for $5. As far as in a race around the ring I don't know squat about the ZR1's so I won't open my mouth on things on which I know nothing about .

[OneSlow5pt0]

so u all think the zr1, can drop 15 seconds, off the clock. without a passenger, and on a completly dry track....

gtr ran a 7:32 on a damp track..

well with good driver i dont seem why the ZR1 one couldnt,it has more horsepower and weighs less

also the does the GTR have the big carbon brakes like the ZR1?

[Alan®]

well with good driver i dont seem why the ZR1 one couldnt,it has more horsepower and weighs less

also the does the GTR have the big carbon brakes like the ZR1?

No but the carbon brakes are coming on the V-Spec model.

[type_r]

I know the GTR comes standard with AWD but v-spec=better overall package. Yes I did misread your post my bad I'm in a ****ty mood due to being suspended and not thinking clearly. Not so much in this thread but in others people have been saying OH YEA **** GTR'S THEY'RE OVERATED PIECES OF **** **** THEM **** **** **** which I dont really understand. I mean yea the interior is not the nicest (however I dont understand the claims against the exterior-what does it need?) but you will spank the 70k Porsche when you race it. I think the image Nissan is going for with this thing is a street legal race car, you pay 70k for the engineering, not a gangsta suede interior or some ****. I vote GTR.

[OneSlow5pt0]

exactly if i had 100k to blow on a car,it will be a gangsta SLK55 AMG,lol...i could give 2 ****s bout being the fastest

[type_r]

And that's personal opinion. Either of those would be cool with me, but you're paying for different things. Anyone who picks a GTR for luxury=dumbass. Therefore criticizing it for that is pointless, it wouldn't cost 70k from Nissan if they would've wanted it to have an interior rivaling others. That would have marked it way up and ruined the whole point.

[Alan®]

And that's personal opinion. Either of those would be cool with me, but you're paying for different things. Anyone who picks a GTR for luxury=dumbass. Therefore criticizing it for that is pointless, it wouldn't cost 70k from Nissan if they would've wanted it to have an interior rivaling others. That would have marked it way up and ruined the whole point.

Not really considering for what the car does it should(according to them and the press anyways)cost $400K. I see what you mean and Nissan could definitely make the interior nicer while keeping it racey without jacking the price up too much. But personally the interior is nice enough for me and I usually only have one other person in the car anyways so back seats is really not an issue for me.

Here's what it comes down too for me. I have less of a problem paying 70k for a Nissan than I do paying 100k+ supposedly for a Chevy.