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    Follow up question. Do Civic people ever, and I do mean ever, consider a Supercharger instead of a Turbo? Superchargers work well with little motors and give considerable gain. A lot easier to install too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWD164
    Follow up question. Do Civic people ever, and I do mean ever, consider a Supercharger instead of a Turbo? Superchargers work well with little motors and give considerable gain. A lot easier to install too...
    Doesn't seem like it. It would be better though due to being belt driven. Although I have seen a supercharged s2000. That would sound cooler too cause you could put a quiet exhaust on it and then only hear the whine of the charger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Footefan52
    Doesn't seem like it. It would be better though due to being belt driven. Although I have seen a supercharged s2000. That would sound cooler too cause you could put a quiet exhaust on it and then only hear the whine of the charger
    yea my old tech at honda had a super charged civic putting out like 300 very nicely made horsepower... im thinking about putting a supercharger on my S. very reliable and easily can get into the 320 whp range...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWD164
    Follow up question. Do Civic people ever, and I do mean ever, consider a Supercharger instead of a Turbo? Superchargers work well with little motors and give considerable gain. A lot easier to install too...
    IMO superchargers, especially on small motors are a waste, they have so much parasitic draw just to power the blower. also alot of blowers on civics are difficult to intercool. turbos on the other hand when sized properly can easily out power a blower in terms of air flow, air charge temp (lower), whp, and even power delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    IMO superchargers, especially on small motors are a waste, they have so much parasitic draw just to power the blower. also alot of blowers on civics are difficult to intercool. turbos on the other hand when sized properly can easily out power a blower in terms of air flow, air charge temp (lower), whp, and even power delivery.
    Not True at all. Look up Judson Superchargers they make many superchargers for small bore motors. Or you could use a 2 Stage blower and they are quite efficient. Truth is, Superchargers are better for small engines. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWD164
    Not True at all. Look up Judson Superchargers they make many superchargers for small bore motors. Or you could use a 2 Stage blower and they are quite efficient. Truth is, Superchargers are better for small engines. Period.
    im still going to disagree with you for the sheer fact that you are having a draw on the engine to produce power. a portion of the increased power from the blower is being forced to power itself. turbos utilize existing exhaust flow and thermal expansion but require no additional load to power itself. sure you can compare x to a ## whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    im still going to disagree with you for the sheer fact that you are having a draw on the engine to produce power. a portion of the increased power from the blower is being forced to power itself. turbos utilize existing exhaust flow and thermal expansion but require no additional load to power itself. sure you can compare x to a ## whatever.
    Fair Point, but small bore motors (Under 2.5L) tend to be a bit laggy with any real boost/big turbo. Sure a small turbo on a small motor is Ok, but a small supercharger will give power from nearly idle to the redline, where turbos need to spool and the less exhaust (small bore) the longer the spool time, the more lag. I am simply wondering why people do not supercharge more, I am not here to nit pick the finite details of forced induction. You want that arguement, create an new thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWD164
    Fair Point, but small bore motors (Under 2.5L) tend to be a bit laggy with any real boost/big turbo. Sure a small turbo on a small motor is Ok, but a small supercharger will give power from nearly idle to the redline, where turbos need to spool and the less exhaust (small bore) the longer the spool time, the more lag. I am simply wondering why people do not supercharge more, I am not here to nit pick the finite details of forced induction. You want that arguement, create an new thread...
    The power that is "drained" from a supercharger is negligible. It is the same as running the air conditioning. When tuning a car it is important to run the car at maximum load to accomplish the optimal fuel maps. Therefor if your running a supercharger then it is getting the most smooth fuel map, which makes for bigger gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Footefan52
    The power that is "drained" from a supercharger is negligible. It is the same as running the air conditioning. When tuning a car it is important to run the car at maximum load to accomplish the optimal fuel maps. Therefor if your running a supercharger then it is getting the most smooth fuel map, which makes for bigger gains.
    Wow i don't even know where to start with this statement. First off, a supercharger is WAY more parasitic than an a/c compressor. The amount of power needed to compress enough air to feed an engine is quite a bit more than the small amount of freon that is compressed. When tuning a car you want to tune a variety of conditions, part throttle and WOT both. Supercharging makes very little difference tuning wide and you certainly don't gain any power over turbo through the tuning methods for a s/c.

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