Quote Originally Posted by 81911SC
Are you flat rate?
How many hours does the water pump pay?
6.5 man hours. Straight torture. I hope like hell that it's a non interference engine for all the hassle.

Quote Originally Posted by seanrg1116
i am intotal agreement on both i used to live down the street from z1 motorsport and the did great work i would go up all the time just to check it out. But i did notice that almost every time i went up there they had the engine out of a car just so they could work on it. But that problem has a simple solution.......LS1

and for chryler the only way to fix there screw ups is to never ever buy them or recomend any to buy them.

but hey at least you are still gettin PAID
That's very true but I look at it this way.... I'm more partial to smaller jobs because I can get them done a little bit more quicker than the bigger jobs. Which means I'll make more money doing the smaller jobs due to the amount of time I might spend getting stuck on the big job due to something that would be unexpected. But I'll do big jobs nontheless. But the point I'm trying to poke ya'll with is that I truely believe the engineer's myth, which states that long ago a mechanic must have slept with an engineer's wife and found out about it and every since then the mechanic (technician) has been getting screwed over. I particularly believe that was the case for nissan and chrysler. Possibly honda too.

Oh, I gotta talk about Honda. Particularly the J series. Has anyone seen the EGR set up on this? WTF??? If it's clogged you basicly have to replace it, and "it" is being the entire aluminum log which goes across one bank to another and has coolant running through it. It has to be removed. And the the F series system before '94 was just stupid. If it's clogged, why must I drill the some caps to clean the ports? Very flawed.