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    Default Is it a spoiler or a wing?

    What do you call it and why?

    I am sick of people calling SPOILERs "wings". The only reason I can even begin to see is that it is easier and quicker to say. IMO, that is no reason to call a spoiler something it is not...

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    umm...do you have any idea what the difference between a spoiler and a wing are or which each one does? How about the difference between a splitter and a diffuser?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    umm...do you have any idea what the difference between a spoiler and a wing are or which each one does? How about the difference between a splitter and a diffuser?
    uuuhhh....yeah. why do you think i said i am sick of people calling spoilers wings? spoilers create down force, wings create lift. you do not want lift on your car... and yes, I do know the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselNuts
    uuuhhh....yeah. why do you think i said i am sick of people calling spoilers wings? spoilers create down force, wings create lift. you do not want lift on your car... and yes, I do know the difference.
    So the wing on an Indy car creates lift?

    Allow me to help you... http://www.nas.nasa.gov/About/Education/Racecar/

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    Quote Originally Posted by chituntang
    From dictionary.com

    Automotive. a similar device for changing the airflow past a moving vehicle, often having the form of a transverse fin or blade mounted at the front or rear to reduce lift and increase traction at high speeds.

    So, anything on the front or the rear of the car (lips, splitters, diffusers, "wings." etc are all spoilers.
    See, thats what I thought untill SpeedMinded dropped this knowledge one me:

    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Even thought it the info comes from a reputible source, I still dont like calling it a wing. Reminds me too much of F&F. Just like people that say N.O.S. like its an actual word and say naws....ugh, thats such a pet peave of mine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselNuts
    uuuhhh....yeah. why do you think i said i am sick of people calling spoilers wings? spoilers create down force, wings create lift. you do not want lift on your car... and yes, I do know the difference.
    A car's wings do create lift in a sense, it just happens to be negative lift
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    An car's wings do create lift in a sense, it just happens to be negative lift
    lololol touche! Up to 3,000lbs of negative lift depending on the application

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    umm...do you have any idea what the difference between a spoiler and a wing are or which each one does? How about the difference between a splitter and a diffuser?
    Steve Matchett knows the right answer....wish i could contact him bout though

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    alright, well you got me there, but that is the first time I have ever heard the term "wing" used on an automobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselNuts
    alright, well you got me there, but that is the first time I have ever heard the term "wing" used on an automobile.
    Nascar used to have spoilers, now they have wings.

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    i say spoiler.


    Just like a wheel and a rim.

    Of course you can get technical but i'd be damn if i get technical about this topic

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    [Normally but not always] The air goes above and below a wing, on spoiler the air only goes over the top. That makes sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    [Normally] The air goes above and below a wing, on spoiler the air only goes over the top. That makes sense?
    That does make sense. I figured that one out when you mentioned nascar. But even though air flows below the spoiler on a car, you dont really want it to, right? Thats why they are angled the way that they are to force the car to the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselNuts
    That does make sense. I figured that one out when you mentioned nascar. But even though air flows below the spoiler on a car, you dont really want it to, right? Thats why they are angled the way that they are to force the car to the ground.
    Turbulance is created when a blunt object cuts through the air, like mini tornado's...if you look at a wing in a wind tunnel you'll see that it smooths out the turbulance and reduces the cars drag. The top part of the wing is what creates the downforce.

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    Gee! thanks for this thread!
    cuz i sho nuff aint know the difference tween the two!

    prally cuz i never cared about putting one on my FF vehicle to have to do any research

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Octopus™
    Gee! thanks for this thread!
    cuz i sho nuff aint know the difference tween the two!

    prally cuz i never cared about putting one on my FF vehicle to have to do any research
    If you don't need a wing on a FF then you aren't driving it hard enough

    ...but for a FF street car driven like a street car it's not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    If you don't need a wing on a FF then you aren't driving it hard enough

    ...but for a FF strictly street car it's not needed.
    Yup, not that you should be on the streets.

    EDIT: DAmmit didn't see the bottom line, wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Yup, not that you should be on the streets.
    lol, edited

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    lol, edited
    Bah, you and your editing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    If you don't need a wing on a FF then you aren't driving it hard enough

    ...but for a FF street car driven like a street car it's not needed.
    well i drive it. but i just dont drive it like im speedminded.
    specially since i dont have a DD. i just feel safe not driving it too hard

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    i call it both, whatevr i feel like.

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    BS aside, this has been a very informative thread. Reps to the contributing posters.

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    Wing



    Spoiler


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    Quote Originally Posted by IDCoconut
    Wing



    Spoiler

    Yup, pretty much.
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    duh. Even a mexican can answer this question.

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    a wing has air flowing above and below it, a spoiler has air just above it
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewAPM
    a spoiler has air just above it
    Or only below it...
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    I've always called a spoiler something that is attached to the car completely and a wing something that has a few inches (or more, ugh) between it and the car. :shrug:

    Fuck stance. Stance is for kids in skinny jeans with Justin Beiber haircuts. You don't need stance when you got swagger.

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    wings split the air in 2. a spoiler just pushes air and doesnt split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    wings split the air in 2. a spoiler just pushes air and doesnt split.
    This man speaks the truth.

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    what about spoilers that have a little gap, so technically they're splitting air? (I'm talking about a mugen del Sol spoiler specifically.. and also just being plain difficult lol)


    Fuck stance. Stance is for kids in skinny jeans with Justin Beiber haircuts. You don't need stance when you got swagger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xPhantomSilviax
    what about spoilers that have a little gap, so technically they're splitting air? (I'm talking about a mugen del Sol spoiler specifically.. and also just being plain difficult lol)


    wing

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    from what i've always been told.. wings have an airfoil shape creating lift in some way (positive or negative)... spoilers just disrupt the flow of air as speedminded said without really creating any kinda "lift"

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    my opinion.. "wing" and "spoiler" are synonym because its the same sh.it.. either its bigger or smallers.. nice or riced


    yeahhhhhh you likeeeee when she does thattttttt

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    From dictionary.com

    Automotive. a similar device for changing the airflow past a moving vehicle, often having the form of a transverse fin or blade mounted at the front or rear to reduce lift and increase traction at high speeds.

    So, anything on the front or the rear of the car (lips, splitters, diffusers, "wings." etc are all spoilers.

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    You know what's the first thing I find wrong with them?? There is a flying car on the page where you linked. There is no form of road racing that is benefit from flying.

    Go to any auto maker page and see if they name the rear spoiler "wing..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by chituntang
    You know what's the first thing I find wrong with them?? There is a flying car on the page where you linked. There is no form of road racing that is benefit from flying.

    Go to any auto maker page and see if they name the rear spoiler "wing..."
    Go to any auto maker page and find me a TRACK CAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by chituntang
    You know what's the first thing I find wrong with them?? There is a flying car on the page where you linked. There is no form of road racing that is benefit from flying.

    Go to any auto maker page and see if they name the rear spoiler "wing..."
    How's Porsche for you? (BTW, I did not search hard for this, this was the first website I looked at)

    "At the rear of the car, the integrated WING is combined with an underbody diffuser featuring vertical fins. The resulting tail section generates ground-effects downforce with only minimal additional drag."


    http://www.porsche.com/english/int/c...gn/default.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    How's Porsche for you? (BTW, I did not search hard for this, this was the first website I looked at)

    "At the rear of the car, the integrated WING is combined with an underbody diffuser featuring vertical fins. The resulting tail section generates ground-effects downforce with only minimal additional drag."


    http://www.porsche.com/english/int/c...gn/default.htm
    Bingo! Was waiting for someone to mention Porsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Bingo! Was waiting for someone to mention Porsche
    Grew up around them, gotta bring it to the table.
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