ms3's are gay as ****
only pussies and lame-asses who cant build their own car up drive them
i like cars where people work to make them fast rather than fast out of the box
noob car
ms3's are gay as ****
only pussies and lame-asses who cant build their own car up drive them
i like cars where people work to make them fast rather than fast out of the box
noob car
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If you didn't like the mazdaspeed 3 from the start, why even consider it? You wanted info on both cars, pros and cons. You got them, and now you're going with the SRT-4 cause its a "you make it go fast machine" and a noob car? You're such an idiot, if you knew what car you wanted WHY even make a thread about it?Originally Posted by hXc007
Next time compare two cars that you're actually thinking about buying, if money is an issue scratch it off your list of cheap sh!t and look for something else. Now im not saying the SRT-4 isn't a good car, ... nevermind! Fuck you and your thread!
i never once said i was wanting to buy either of these cars
i just wanted to strike up a debate about them
Which you did. But seeing as all we were doing is wasting our time on someone who couldn't marinate any of the information giving.
Im done with you and this thread, peace!
actually i did guy
its just both of these cars are go fast out of the box cars
why would someone get one of these and barely do anything to them or just throw some wheels on it and call theirselves a tuner?
im not saying that the people on here that have either of these cars arent tuners, it just the mainstream people will buy one of these 2 cars and instantly think they are street racers with enlarged egos b/c their wagon has 263 estimated hp
wtf
Than get a goddamn, HONDA!
Read this post, tell me. Why wouldn't someone reply the way I did.
Your two posts say two different things. Maybe next time, you'll use words alittle differently.
well go buy a 2k$ car but 10k into it and sell it for 4k...
That attittude u have about fast out of the box cars will change when u get money in your hand. I see waht your tryin to say. But its a bad way of saying. I dont applaud people who buy a 14sec car, and make it a low 13 second car either. but if we all could afford something better we would. Some have the money to go buy a ms3, srt4 and put money into it, some dont and they stick with the **** boxes. i love to see underestimated original cars on the streets and modded nicely over a brand new car myself. But you can put all the money into a old car, but it will never be like a new car..
see, you get what im saying
you're right, the ariel atom is for noobs and pussies that don't enjoy performance.
problem with this is how often do you see where people built up their car? Most people buy a slow car slap a fartcan and bodykit on it and thats it. Given the ones that actually do build up the cars tend to do a hell of a job, but like I said how often do you see that?
as for the ms3 I personally cant say anything bad about it because I havent driven one. I know they had that issue with motor mounts breaking and engines falling out when they first came out but I imagine thats long been fixed. I think its a good looking car.
As for the srt4 I've had one as my daily driver for nearly 3yrs now. I've loved everyday I've driven it and not had 1 problem out of it. I've read alot of peoples reasons in this thread for not liking it but besides their personally disliking of it I've not read one valid reason.
Lack of rear power windows?!- please. Do you drive in the rear seat? Dodge did not have a power window motor readily available to fit the rear doors of the srt4 and instead of driving up cost they just put crank. fine by me
hp/tq- yep ms3 has better crank #s but look at wheel #s and compare. They are remarkably close with the srt being ahead by some peoples #s and the ms3 ahead by others.
quarter mile #s- again very close
and to the morons who put its just a straight line car please do some research. these cars have been very successful racing round the twisties (speed world challenge, 1 lap, etc) unfortunately there was only 1 in speed world challenge this year due to I believe 3 were stolen with their trailers and all
/rant off
see, you get itproblem with this is how often do you see where people built up their car? Most people buy a slow car slap a fartcan and bodykit on it and thats it. Given the ones that actually do build up the cars tend to do a hell of a job, but like I said how often do you see that?
as for the ms3 I personally cant say anything bad about it because I havent driven one. I know they had that issue with motor mounts breaking and engines falling out when they first came out but I imagine thats long been fixed. I think its a good looking car.
As for the srt4 I've had one as my daily driver for nearly 3yrs now. I've loved everyday I've driven it and not had 1 problem out of it. I've read alot of peoples reasons in this thread for not liking it but besides their personally disliking of it I've not read one valid reason.
Lack of rear power windows?!- please. Do you drive in the rear seat? Dodge did not have a power window motor readily available to fit the rear doors of the srt4 and instead of driving up cost they just put crank. fine by me
hp/tq- yep ms3 has better crank #s but look at wheel #s and compare. They are remarkably close with the srt being ahead by some peoples #s and the ms3 ahead by others.
quarter mile #s- again very close
and to the morons who put its just a straight line car please do some research. these cars have been very successful racing round the twisties (speed world challenge, 1 lap, etc) unfortunately there was only 1 in speed world challenge this year due to I believe 3 were stolen with their trailers and all
/rant off
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