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    Exclamation Cadillac: Eliminating One Hit Wonders: An inside look from a CTS designer

    "September 18, 2007
    Eliminating One-Hit Wonders


    The 2008 CTS as a clay model
    By John Manoogian
    Director of Design, Cadillac Exterior

    We all know plenty of examples of “one-hit wonders” in literature, music, cinema, and, yes, even in car design. When the time came to redesign the original Cadillac CTS, the design team wanted to steer clear of this syndrome.

    As Cadillac’s design vocabulary suggests, its brand essence is extravagant, exclusive and one that offers a dramatic presence. Let’s face it, the CTS is bold and makes a very strong statement about Cadillac’s “Art & Science” design philosophy. The design team understood that the successor to the original CTS needed to be recognizable as a Cadillac, but look like a CTS with a great upscale presence.

    All these things were going through my mind as I was given the assignment to lead the exterior design team of designers and sculptors to design the 2008 CTS. And believe me, there was a lot of competition. It’s said that competition improves the breed. Well, I am convinced it certainly raised the bar for the CTS design.

    We received design proposals from England and California, as well as the Advanced Design and Production Design in Michigan. In all, there were 11 scale models, and these were edited down to five full-size clay models that were then taken to a consumer clinic. From the results of the customer event, a single theme started to emerge.

    Part of the design brief was to add just a bit more ‘art’ to the Art & Science design philosophy. This didn’t mean doing a soft, round, roly-poly design, but a design that had the look of being carefully sculpted by talented hands. We wanted a design that had all the structure and creases in the right places, with a small dose of lovingly created surfaces to counterbalance a computer-generated look. Additionally, a two-inch wider track proved to be a huge design enabler that allowed the team to sculpt beautiful flares that cradle the large wheels and tires.

    Added enhancements of chrome details and accents were another element to really take the CTS to the next level. One of the really cool features that we spent a great deal of time on was the design of the head and taillamps. Vertical taillamp designs are a Cadillac identifier. We incorporated vertical lightpipes into the taillamps and uplevel headlamps. At night, these features identify the CTS as a Cadillac with their soft glowing vertical light. As a design team, we learned that designs can be identifiable at night as well as during the day!

    Cadillacs need to have a strong, distinctive face, and the design team believed very strongly in a bold, in-your-face look to the front end of the newly redesigned CTS, and we are confident we captured the essence.

    Every square millimeter of the new CTS was carefully thought out. In my opinion, there isn’t one bad view or angle of the CTS. Adding a die-cast metal air extractor to the front fender is a touch that takes the new car to the next level. For the longest time, the sheet metal stamping team argued that it would be nearly impossible to stamp such a complex shape into the front fender. By working very long and hard, both the design and engineering groups solved the unique issues associated with forming the fender and air extractor.

    As much work as we poured into bringing the CTS to reality, the real winners of this whole process are the buyers. I believe the CTS will please our customers with the attention to detail and the artistic beauty that the final design offers. Ultimately, it’s the buying public that will decide if we at GM Design were able to break the “one-hit wonder” curse. I believe we not only did so, but we exceeded most everyone’s expectations. We look forward to the launch and success of this spectacular product.
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    ive said it once,ill say it again......cadillac is building the best american cars

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    V6 Turbo

    but not im america

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    Vossen CV3 20x9 & 20x10.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad




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    but not im america
    That is crap. That is the BLS, its based off a FWD SAAB. They need to move AWAY from that. The BLS has gotten raped in Europe, its not a very good luxury car.

    The new CTS is tits.


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    i didnt know it was FWD.......lol,thats gay

    CTS and STS are titties

    and XLR is the shitdizzle to the max

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    i didnt know it was FWD.......lol,thats gay

    CTS and STS are titties

    and XLR is the shitdizzle to the max
    Yeah, not sure what they were thinking when they are getting rid of FWD. They made the BLS to compete with the 3/C/A4/IS in Europe but its gotten based all over in every review.

    Why base a Caddy off a Saab?? lol
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    I love the Cadillac CTS-V.

    I wonder why they went to 5lug instead of the 6lug on the current model. Interchangable parts perhaps?

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    That front end just seems droopy. I liked the old one a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
    Why base a Caddy off a Saab?? lol
    Don't hate on the SAAB!

    Hah, the BLS is just my car in a different suit.

    I LOVE how the new CTS looks. It looked great in photos...and absolutely STUNNING in person. the interior is great too.

    Can't wait until the V comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VooDooXII
    Don't hate on the SAAB!

    Hah, the BLS is just my car in a different suit.

    I LOVE how the new CTS looks. It looked great in photos...and absolutely STUNNING in person. the interior is great too.

    Can't wait until the V comes out.
    Don't get me wrong, Saab makes great cars, not hating on Saab at all.

    A Caddy should NOT be based on a Saab though.
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    Hah, I was joking around.

    Yea, Cadillacs and SAABs are quite different. In fact, I really don't like the amount of sharing that goes on between some companies. I mean, there were SIX different versions of GM's GMT360 SUVs.

    - Chevrolet Trailblazer
    - GMC Envoy
    - Oldsmobile Bravada
    - Buick Ranier
    - Isuzu Ascender
    - SAAB 9-7X

    It just leaves me wondering what's so special about each one, aside from the body? I mean I like the interior of the SAAB and the GMC better than the others...but really, there should be some separation between the brands.

    Whatever...I'd love to have a new CTS. I liked the older one a little when it came out...the interior was sin though. This new one is a hands down winner.

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    STS-V is sex. pure and simple, as is the last model CTS-V...mated to the 6 speed, that was the best luxury car I've ever driven..probably only because I've never driven the sts-v, though.

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    CTS is definately a winner to me..

    Chevy is gonna have alotof real nic ecars in the next couple of years, alot of RWD high powered sedans are comin back!

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    new impala is RWD

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    new impala is RWD
    yea its based of the holden commodore or one of the holden i beleive.. but gm has struck gold with using their holden chassis on the Us chevy's. Same with ford..we are slowly gettin better cars and alot of varients of european cars.

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    4 dr lumina ss...w/ the ls2

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    lumia looks just like a GTO


    i want GM to bring vauxhall over here

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    LUminas comin back strong!

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    I have an itching suspicion that GM is gonna bring back the Cobalt SS, but with the same engine as the HHR SS, which is the same 260 hp 2.0L turbo that's in the Solstice GXP and Sky redline models. A magasine said that it was taking a "hiatus" and GM was funding that 3 car delta platform pretty hard. I don't think they're gonna be gone out the high power sport compact scene too long

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    That new CTS is odd looking, but extremely hot. I can't wait to see the V in person. I have seen 2 non-Vs and was fairly impressed. That Lumina is hot...(my God, did I just say that?) It would be great to get that and the GTO back.
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    The Lumina is the GTO/Monaro/Commodore...it's just rebadged.

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    Just watched one of Cadillacs commercials, "When you turn your car on does it return the favor?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Just watched one of Cadillacs commercials, "When you turn your car on does it return the favor?"
    Hahahaha

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    Spotted a new CTS today on 285. It looks okay. I definitely don't like it in red. Black would be so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six2Six
    Spotted a new CTS today on 285. It looks okay. I definitely don't like it in red. Black would be so much better.
    I think Cadillacs look much better in those darker colors...silver isn't bad though.

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