Hahaha. I may not kill, dirty looks are quite possible. It's a really hard color to find, or at least is was for me. She'll get a much better deal on a Velocity Red or Titanium since they are soooo much more common. Over 2,200+ of each of those colors compared to 413 in black. The red is absolutely beautiful in person... online pics do not do it justice. If I hadn't had two red cars right before this one, I probably would have chosen it.
2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5 -1.8L Turbo
Another thing she likes is how uncommon those cars are. Seriously, I've only seen one MSM on the road...it was red, and yea, it looks stunning.
honda is best buy for ur money its reliable as all hondas are but i also drive a mazda 929 and its at 215,000 miles and still drives well so u will have a good car no matter the choice gl
lol...i like them,guess each to their ownOriginally Posted by VooDooXII
People tend to not give Mazda the credit it deserves. The only time they had problems was when Ford started dumping their pos parts into the Mazda bin in the mid '90s. Luckily all the models weren't affected.
MSM's are everywhere up here between Roswell and Woodstock.
I wish I knew what happened to mine. Some kid probably wrapped it around a tree.
True, true.
I lol'ed when i read that.
02' Miata
S2K's dont hold the abuse like a Miata can. I have heard of far fewer diff and tranny problems for the Miata then i have with S2K's.
Besides, when the time finally comes to replace the top (which it will, or soon if something were to happen
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S2k's hold plenty of abuse. I can't ever remember hearing of a tranny failure in an S2000. That gearbox is argued by most that drive it as the best on the market. The main reason for most of the diff failures is from people not knowing how to launch the car. Too low of an RPM = no tire spin = lots of extra stress on the diff.
i saw that Cool Cat Racing miata at lake lanier islands lastweek who was that?
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Look at the sig about 3 posts up... should tell you the answer.
We were up there for a few hours. It was too damn hot though.
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s2000
If you can swing the roughly 30k, go test drive a Sky Redline. Not sure what teh S2k and MSM go for. It's a treat on a road course.
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i think everyone likes the S2K cause Johnny Tran drove it in F&F...and he was a so called badass,so others think the S2K makes them a badass.....or maybe not,lol
well it isnt the tranny that the s2k has a bad name for
it is the diff
people boosting them then trying to take em to the drag strip
and the diff blows during there burnout
first of all..
when honda desgned the car they didnt design it to drag race
so really if you drive and build the car how honda wanted it to
you will have no problems with the diff and tranny
but anyways a friend of mine just bought an s2k
and i love it
i must have one, one day
they look a lot better to me to but thats just imo
i do think she should test drive them both though before she makes a decision.
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I love the Sky. However...low production numbers equal huge dealer markups, plus the steering's pretty dead in it apparently. I'd almost be able to get over it though, because that car is fast, and obnoxiously sexy.
She's not willing to spend that much though.
She's test driven the Miata and she fell in love with it. She has yet to drive the S2000, but she said she's pretty fixed on the Mazdaspeed. She thinks it looks better and as I said before...she said she feels like she sees S2000s everywhere.
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Im guessing she wants a used s2k cause the go for 30K+ New. i work at team Honda and i own a s2k and there is no way in hell i would rather have a MSM instead of it. and if u lanch them right i dont think the MSM would pull in low gears. and i hardly ever see s2k anywhere. granted the MSM would be cheeper to mod but sence u said she didnt want to do any of that i would take her to the nearest honda dealer and let her test drive one. we have three on the lot.
shes on the right track
MSM, I"m sure she'll appreciate the power. The S2k looks better though.
This a is a a "NO BRAINER"....S2K all the way....go test drive one and then say something
I haven't driven a S2000 before, but I doubt it'll be more fun than even a non-Mazdaspeed MX-5.
i had a 1st gen 1.8L Miata,and it drove and handled great......
s2000 all the way!! handles great and look good as well. It have the honda badge so it is relible TOO!!!!!!!!!!!What more can you as for?!
s2000 all the way!! handles great and look good as well. It have the honda badge so it is relible TOO!!!!!!!!!!!What more can you as for?!
Honda badge means nothing. I saw 4 broke down Accords on my way to Charleston.
x2Honda badge means nothing. I saw 4 broke down Accords on my way to Charleston.
Toyota are reliable,wonder how many supras iv seen broke down....alot
Mazda Miatas are bout as relaible as a car gets(at least the 1st gen)
the most reliable cars are old BMWs though
Meh, Supras don't count. They're in that category with the RX-7, 300ZX, 3000GT, etc. Reliable cars if maintained properly. The problem is, most people who bought them didn't follow the factory maintenance plan or just couldn't afford it.
Did you see the episode of 5th Gear where they beat the hell out of that 4runner pickup and then sunk it to the bottom of the lake? They drug it out, let it dry, and it started right up. Now that's reliability for you.
lol,damn....listen this my friend had a 85 BMW 535(i belive) with bout 600k on engine and tranny,he paid $250 for it and it started up everytime and never broke down.
I thought it was somethin' when my Jetta hit 200K lol.
The one Honda I owned was the most unreliable car I've ever had. It was a nightmare. Plenty of people own them and rarely have problems, there are bad ones in every bunch. It's a good idea to stick with the auto makers that you have less of a chance of getting the bad one.
I like S2K's a lot, they are beautiful cars ....but, the insurance is high, mods are expensive. I could have easily bought one but figured I could do sooooo much to the MSM and still have money left for the other good things in life.
2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5 -1.8L Turbo
originally posted by JennB
The one Honda I owned was the most unreliable car I've ever had. It was a nightmare. Plenty of people own them and rarely have problems, there are bad ones in every bunch. It's a good idea to stick with the auto makers that you have less of a chance of getting the bad one.
I like S2K's a lot, they are beautiful cars ....but, the insurance is high, mods are expensive. I could have easily bought one but figured I could do sooooo much to the MSM and still have money left for the other good things in life.
+1. My present car is a honda and its hell to keep running right now. In the past year I spent nearly 2g's to keep it straight. Seems like any car I"ve owned hasn't last long without having many issues. Next car will definately not be a Honda
having not driven an S2000, you assume it will be boring, uncomforatble, and less of a car than a non MS MIATA...?
S2000 AP2 model is one of the best cars honda ever made.
It's worth 25,000 dollars.
it has 220 hp without a turbo, as the mazda has a turbo and doesnt make close as a stock s2k.
It's the second generation so all the querks have been looked at and fixed from the factory.
THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL.
aside from being a gay ass convertible, they're the perfect 2 door car. but a hard top can fix that.
Yep. That's what I said. If I get this job at Honda I may get to drive one. Then I'll come back with my final opinion, but I doubt it will have changed.
Yup!
the s2000 does have a little more class
As for specs, yes, the stock S2000 has more hp but it also weighs a little over 300 lbs more. For about $1000 in upgrades, the MSM can easily match the S2k.
She really should drive the S2K though. It is a very different car so it all depends on what does it for her. Numbers aside, they do feel different and one may suit her better than the other.
(there are dyno charts up on Flyin Miata's website. A stock S2K had 206 rwhp and 138.2 tq. The MSM with just a few upgrades was 203.4rwhp and 194.6 tq. A lot of people have done the mods they used on that dyno run with a couple of other small things and hit 210 or 215. Of course there are additional upgrades that took the MSM to 270rwhp.) http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/dyno.asp
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[QUOTE=JennB]As for specs, yes, the stock S2000 has more hp but it also weighs a little over 300 lbs more. For about $1000 in upgrades, the MSM can easily match the S2k.
She really should drive the S2K though. It is a very different car so it all depends on what does it for her.
(there are dyno charts up on Flyin Miata's website. A stock S2K had 206 rwhp and 138.2 tq. The MSM with just a few upgrades was 203.4rwhp and 194.6 tq. A lot of people have done the mods they used on that dyno run with a couple of other small things and hit 210 or 215. Of course there are additional upgrades that took the MSM to 270rwhp.) http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/dyno.asp[/QUOTE]
i was gonna say that the Miata weighed less,u beat me to it
yea,Miata is the way to go for modding,lots of options and hell of alot cheaper..and probbly make more Tq out of a MX-5
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