SHE WENT FOR THE MAZDASPEED MIATA. THANKS EVERYONE!
My friend is considering one or the other...so what do you think?
She's leaning towards the Mazdaspeed, but she hasn't driven the S2000 yet.
Owners...how are they?
Mazdaspeed Miata or Honda S2000
SHE WENT FOR THE MAZDASPEED MIATA. THANKS EVERYONE!
My friend is considering one or the other...so what do you think?
She's leaning towards the Mazdaspeed, but she hasn't driven the S2000 yet.
Owners...how are they?
Last edited by VooDooXII; 08-22-2007 at 01:07 PM.
Well I have neither. But, I would say Honda 2000.
I know Ran Kizama had a MS Miata and there a few s2000 owners on here.
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Originally Posted by E36slide
I drove a new Miata, but I'd rather have the S2000. There's just something about having that much HP, a 9000 rpm redline, etc, etc.
Mazdaspeed MX-5
My MSM would beat my buddies S2K from a stop until I topped out every time. The MSM suffers from bad gearing so the car tops out at about 135mph. Once I replaced the stock restrictive intake, leaky BOV, and rubber throttle body pipe with Flyin' Miata parts, the car was a hell of lot better with a lot less lag.
If she decides on the MSM, then swap in the 5-Speed tranny from the normal Miata.
www.mazda-speed.net <- Good MSM Owners Forum. Could help give her some more info.
S2000
Never owned one, but drove a buddies car regularly. The car is very fun and loves to rev, much like most Honda cars. The suspension is tight from the factory and the car seemed to have less roll than the MSM did stock. While the MSM would take the car off the line and thru most of the gears, the S2K would go faster in the long run so if she's looking for highway speed, the S2K may be her better bet unless she plans on swapping the MSM gear box.
Yup!
i say the MS,but i dont like hondas...and i like the 6speed automatic with paddle shiftters in the miata
No paddles in the MSM, only a 6-Speed stick.
o,guess its just the non-MS with paddle shifters
Personally, I would but the honda. But thats just me.
I've driven the new MX-5 before...nothing but pure fun.
i have driven neither but i would take the mazda
I love Miatas, thats what I would go with.
For everyone else- the Mazdaspeed Miata is NOT the new body thats out now, its like my body style.
As far as bang for the buck, not going to beat a MSM. You can get one with less then 10,000 mi for well under 20g...and that means the car is still under warranty. Try finding a good S2K with most of the warranty remaining for under 20k.
There are no known issues with the MSMs. You can scour any of the miata forums and look for problems, but there aren't really any. A couple people have had to replace betterys..under warranty. But no recalls or tsb's on the engine/drive train/suspension. With little work to a MSM, it'll be very fast. Liek Ran said, replacing the intake and adding a exhaust and mbc, the cars will make well over 200rwhp... which should be more then enough, anything more and i suggest some aggressive drivers classes. To me, the MSM isnt as snappy as the S2K when making sudden turns ad on the limit driving.
We can't assume the person is question is going to be racing the car or just enjoying it as a DD. Also, the seating position in the S2K is kinda odd... the top of the doors feel too high and impede view. The Miata has a smaller blind spot. Miata has manual top with GLASS window... much easier to maintain.
When it comes to mods and prices, MSM wins again.
Intake (includes MBC) - $300
Downpipe and exhaust- $900 (for the best of the best)
Springs (stock MSM shocks are VERY nice Bilstiens) - $180
Roll bar - $400
There are a few other misc. mods that are no more then a couple hundred dollars that are good. With those parts, you're at ~220-230 rwhp and still getting 30mpg.
The S2K is nice.. if you get a newer one and have a lot to spend on parts.
02' Miata
She said she was leaning towards the Mazdaspeed anyway...plus I've been in an S2000. The seating position really is a bit odd.
She won't be racing or doing a ridiculous build or anything. She just wants a fun roadster. She's a..."spirited" driver, if you will. She wants a DD.
From what I've read...seems like the Miata the best bet, especially since it's less expensive. She may be all over that. She also likes that she's nevee seen a Mazdaspeed Miata on the road. I don't think I have either.
Thanks for the info guys!
DropTop, I'd +1 you, but I must spread.
'Sall good.
If she gets it, let me know and i'll help find goodies for the car.
Btw, if you want to get something a little more unique, dont get the titanium color...though the best deals are on that color. They only came in Titanium Silver, Velocity Red , Lava orange and Black Mica. 2004 cars either had black leather or red and black cloth. 2005 cars either had black cloth or black leather..... GET A CLOTH CAR, its much more comfortable. Leather cars also had a cloth top (opposed to the vinyl the cloth interior cars do). The cloth top is harder to keep clean and gets crease marks easier.
The 2004 Velocity red with the red/black cloth interior is a hott bug....looks great. Dont get black.... Jenn will kill you. Orange is hard to find.... in fact there are much less 2005 cars because they were supposed to make 4000 of them... but only made 1478 because the factory burned down.
02' Miata
Since this is a female's car (that's more than likely not into the scene), I would go with the s2k simply because it's a n/a car. Most females arent going to keep up the maintence of their cars and that could add extra wear on a turbo motor.
Heh, don't assume anything. She used to have a 1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle that she'd have to play with at the end of each day in order for it to run the next day. She is as much of a car enthusiast as I am...that's saying something. Maintenance won't be a problem...she knows how to take care of a car. She specifically said that she likes the fact that it's turbocharged.
Wait a minute...why am I not dating this girl.
Peace bitches!
^^^^ sorry.... its not a DSM.
02' Miata
+1 for the Miata again. They are amazing in autocross in almost every class they compete in and I'd have a turbo over VTEC anyways. I also have seen firsthand at autocrosses where a S2k will be in a sweeping turn metering the throttle, hit VTEC and spin because of the abrupt power gains. Also, I don't know if it is still a problem, but at least the older S2ks seemed to have drivetrains made out of toothpicks.
UGA: Everybody is laughing at us this year.
WTF!! s2k DUH!! wow stop comparing those two cars.. disgrace for the s2k..
~runs away~
No comparisons...She's just in the market for a fun roadster.
Those two are in her price range...any other roadsters like the Audi TT, BMW Z3, Chrysler Crossfire, Mercedes SL...way too expensive.
ALL 2002+ S2k's had rear glass windows WITH defrosterS2k's redline was dropped to 8k rpm's in 2004 (longer stroke making it 2.2L)
The best thing is go out and drive them both, personally i'd take a S2000 with a hardtop over a factory turbo Miata...BUT dollar for dollar if i were to build something from scratch, definitely an older miata w/ hardtop, all black or silver with a cage and sportmax wheels...keeping it purpose built yet plain & simple.
yup, im getting the mugen hardtop once i get my s2k.. and the rear glass was introduced in 2003.. only 2000-2002 had that shitty plastic..ALL 2002+ S2k's had rear glass windows WITH defroster
The best thing is go out and drive them both, personally i'd take a S2000 with a hardtop over a factory turbo Miata...BUT dollar for dollar if i were to build something from scratch, definitely an older miata w/ hardtop, all black or silver with a cage and sportmax wheels...keeping it purpose built yet plain & simple.
I love miata's, especially that body style. S2k is not my cup of tea.. but then again neither is honda
There is someone around here who has the best of both worlds, a 03 Miata with a F20C and 6 speed in it. I would want that one.
older miata with s2k swap??? best of both worlds
I would def do the s2000...of course im biased as i just purchased the s2000...As for the odd sitting position..I LOVE IT! i like the low sitting position when taking hard corners. Just makes me feel a bit more secure in the car rather than sitting up high as other convertibles ive ridden in.
Never driven the Miata, but after owning an S2000 why would I ever want to...
s2k all the way.. Better quality, better car overall..
Plus it looks WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY better then the Miata.
MIata for me, if i could fit in one i would own one. The Bp(1.8) in the miata is one of mazdas best motors ever!. S2k seems to trendy right now for me. and hondas have always been boring cars.
Trust me, the S2K is far from the typical Honda and even further from boring.
s2k ftmfw
YEAHHHH:idb:
So did she ever make a decision?
02' Miata
LOL at all the honda haters. I have never driven or owned a honda that wasnt entertaining to drive. Most people are just cheap and tasteless when it comes to mods. I would go with whichever one fits your budget. I am sure the miata is a blast to drive and the s2k certainly is, but the honda is probably going to be a little more reliable in the long run.
Nothing final, but you'll smile...haha, she's heavily leaning towards the Miata.
I can't believe this thing is still kicking...
lol,tell her to get a MR2-S and outhandle both of them
Miatas are pretty damn reliable,well least,the 1st gens are
i say fuck it, go find a 88-91 convertible rx7 and be happy lol
both of those are great cars though
Glory, Glory Man United
I lol'ed when i read that.
02' Miata
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