Make more? It has more stock.
Make more? It has more stock.
2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5 -1.8L Turbo
lol,does it...damn,Originally Posted by JennB
Yep. Stock MSM vs. stock S2K
MSM has less hp but a little more tq. With a few mods, the MSM is equal with the S2k on hp and, of course, still more tq. Add engine management to the list of mods and it's at 260 or 270 at the wheels. It will be a while before my car is that powerful. 210-215 in a 2500 lb car will do it for me for now.
2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5 -1.8L Turbo
The ratings are:
237 HP for AP2
240 HP for AP1
There are a lot of differences between the AP1 & AP2. If anyone is ever considering an S2000 they should consider test driving both platforms. IMO, the 2003 is the best bet since it is the last year for the 9K RPM, which is soo much fun!
S2000 that's all I'm saying.
[[StreetL<3ve]]
Sooooo.... For you S2K owners, i have a question.
How much HP can you make AT THE WHEELS with $1500.. and thats buying NEW parts from vendors.... no ebay/friend/private sales. When i say $2k, i mean $2k or LESS.
I'd Love to see a S2K get 55-60 rwhp for $1500 (cost of the parts to go from 150rwhp to 203rwhp was actually $1355 + shipping)
02' Miata
now lets not get to far from our topic here
he has already said she will be leaving the car stock and driven as a dd
ATL_DA_Squad #3
STREET<3LOVE
if she doesnt mod it, he will :lol:
02' Miata
Personal experience...?
Well if it's definitely going to be left stock she needs to drive both and (important) get insurance quotes on both. My quote on an S2K was waaaay higher than the Miata. Also remember that modded or not, the S2K has staggered wheels.
2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5 -1.8L Turbo
$600 3" exhaust, $800 big intercooler, $400 downpipe. 280+tq and whp, and no one has cracked the pcm yet and been able to turn up the boost with a boost controller. (tq management)
Potential.
The SRL makes ~240whp/230tq stock.
2011 Camero - Fast
1998 T/A - Slow
Um, and saturn has a company policy against dealer price adjustment. What you see is what you get. Its twin the solstice doesnt look as good IMO, but is cheaper (start at $26,500 in the turbo model)
2011 Camero - Fast
1998 T/A - Slow
Link
Read that...
Nonetheless...I LOVE the Sky Redline.
Insurance is much cheaper?
Oh damn...I think she'll definitely hop on the MSM after hearing that.
Of course she should call her agent and get a quote like I did. It took maybe 5 minutes. Everyone's insurance rates are different but for mine, the S2K was a good bit more.
2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5 -1.8L Turbo
1: That article is over a year old
2: It just doesnt happen like that. It did when the cars first came out, at a very few places in high income areas, but doesn't anymore, especially in Georgia. I paid $2k under sticker for mine.
2011 Camero - Fast
1998 T/A - Slow
Well now, if the title of the thread was "S2K vs MSM vs SRL" , then we would be talkign about this, right? I was just trying to stay on track.
Oh, so has anyone found a way turn traction control off yet? I dont know too much first hand, but a friend of mine who works at a GM dealership said there was no option to turn trac. cont. off ??? And by looking around, i have not seen one video of a big honking smokey session involving either GM product.
02' Miata
i also cant find a video of a MR2-S vs a Sky..cause i think the MR2-S could take it N/A vs N/A...on track or mountains
o,well MX-5 rules the roadster market
it seems the write of that seemed to miss a few important facts.
Glass window vs. plastic window. MSM has glass standard.
Leather vs cloth. S2K is leather only. MSM offers both. In a convertable leather seats FTL.... just ask your girl how she likes sitting in a burning hot seat while wearing a skirt or shorts.
02' Miata
hmmmm...s2k..........im pretty sure she would pick the S, I love mines
Yeah, you press the traction control button.
2011 Camero - Fast
1998 T/A - Slow
The MSM will be much cheaper, and they are easier to work on also. Plus, ther miata will be more friendly to a average females driving skill (the S2000 is very responsive and a little snappy with the tail, the miata is more smooth and easy to drive at the limits).
Yeah but it's not too hard to get the MX-5's rear wheels loose. Trust me on that one.
I say go ms miata alot more for giving in driving terms than a s2k .
Just tell her to get a Miata like everyone else. Leave that potential S2000 to someone else.
[[StreetL<3ve]]
Mazda > Honda. Don't be butt-hurt about it. It's just life.
Well, if she gets the S2K , you can always swap the all-mighty D16Y8 in it......
02' Miata
lol............speaking of that when are u gonna drop a 13BT in the Miata
when i win the lottery.
02' Miata
lol...have u really thought about it?or u just gonna stay with the pistons..also how does that swap run?
so truMazda > Honda. Don't be butt-hurt about it. It's just life.
Having tracked an S2000 numerous times there is no denying the S2K is far better car. For daily driving the miata is softer and more tame, and probably better. For under 50k you'll be hard pressed to find a car stock car that is faster than it around a track.
As far as all out sports cars are concerned... the S2000 is one of the final few.
Inside Fishsticks/Outside Tarter Sauce MY06 G35 Sedan 6MT
i can think of a ton
name one.
Inside Fishsticks/Outside Tarter Sauce MY06 G35 Sedan 6MT
FD RX-7 would.
Elise would
pretty sure a EVO would, depending on the track
Also seems like the RX-8 is right there running even with the S2K too.
(yes, all of those cars are/were under 50k NEW)
02' Miata
i think a crossfire SRT-6 could,i think a FC Turbo could hang or beat a s2k,300ZX TT..Corvette ZR1,Z06,Viper GTS
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y0KLnCKE6Dc
little food for thought.
ATL_DA_Squad #3
STREET<3LOVE
s2kkkk
Forget the "who's faster" argument.
She's looking for a fun, fast roadster with relatively row running costs. Forget about tuning and what not. Just focus on the car itself. Seeing that the MSM will probably be cheaper and better on insurance...it seems like that's the best bet. She's driven one of those already and is leaning towards it.
exactly,i say go for MSM
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