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    Default Rb25 swap in old Zcars

    Is an rb25det swap easy to do in old z cars? I got quoted by one guy $1800 for installation, which includes custum driveshaft, engine mounts, and wireing, and then he quoted me $2500 for the engine kit. Is this a good deal? I think im going for it this spring.
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    Check out NICO (www.nicoclub.com) and www.racebread.com

    I think there is a few RB powered Z owners on them.

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    thanks man
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    You could also check out www.freshalloy.com , but I dont know if there is any Z owners on there. Good informative board though.

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    With a rb20 trans, you could just use the stock rb20 mounts and 280z tranny mount and stock drive shaft and a rearsump oil pan and pickup from nismoparts.com . My friend and I did it with his. It was a very simple and straight forward swap. It was an rb20 but then it blew a ringland and he put an rb25 in it a couple of weeks later. I assume he just swapped the long blocks. But for using the 25 trans you need a custom tranny mount, or mountkit and a custom driveshaft. I would say get an auto rb25 for 1100, rb20 trans for 250, rb20 mounts $50, oilpan n pickup for 200, clutch for 250 flyweel for 40-100, and be on the road for under 2k.

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    ^^^ What he said.

    Over in Japan they made a special editon Z31 called the 200ZR which used an RB20DET instead of the stock L28DET. If you can get those motor mounts and tranny mounts you're golden, I think you also might need the oil pan from the 200ZR also. McKinney Motorsports also makes a mounting kit which mounts the engine closer to the firewall and a little lower in the frame.

    You could get an RB20, throw in a stock RB26 crank and some custom rods and pistons to make an RB24 and keep with the 240Z namesake. Or just go RB25 and call it a day, my dream car right there.
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    Whats wrong with the L28? It works for me You can make all the power the chassis can use, and it bolts right in Its also easier to work on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSnail
    Also a great source for Z swaps, I just couldn't remember it.

    +1 Snail

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    Dont get me wrong, i like the L-series engines escpsially the sound, but the electronics are 28 years old, and my z had been sitting for 6 years when i came accross it. I just have alot of electrical problems. I even carry a fire extinguisher in my car. I also want the uniqueness, of the rb25 in an old z, its the old mixed with the new. Plus the rb25det has alot more potential than my NA L28E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver280zx
    Dont get me wrong, i like the L-series engines escpsially the sound, but the electronics are 28 years old, and my z had been sitting for 6 years when i came accross it. I just have alot of electrical problems. I even carry a fire extinguisher in my car. I also want the uniqueness, of the rb25 in an old z, its the old mixed with the new. Plus the rb25det has alot more potential than my NA L28E.
    I run an electromotive stand-alone EMS, so I didnt have to worry about any old electronics. I got tired of dealing with 1980's wiring harnesses
    BTW, Ive got a Jim Wolf MAF-converted ECU and Cobra MAF setup for it, along with a lot of other stuff for a turbo conversion car, if you end up doing an L28...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspeed
    I run an electromotive stand-alone EMS, so I didnt have to worry about any old electronics. I got tired of dealing with 1980's wiring harnesses
    BTW, Ive got a Jim Wolf MAF-converted ECU and Cobra MAF setup for it, along with a lot of other stuff for a turbo conversion car, if you end up doing an L28...
    I apreciate it man, but i think i am going to just go rb25. But if i dont ill contact you. This place i was looking at, has already done the swap on a 240z. And its pretty much the same swap. With exception to the wireing, fuel pump and drive shaft, i just have a little more room in my engine bay than a 240z. I was also wandering about rear ends, should i go with and s130 turbo limited slip, or a z31 turbo limited slip?
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    my buddy had an rb20 put in his 280z and the swap worked out just fine for him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver280zx
    I apreciate it man, but i think i am going to just go rb25. But if i dont ill contact you. This place i was looking at, has already done the swap on a 240z. And its pretty much the same swap. With exception to the wireing, fuel pump and drive shaft, i just have a little more room in my engine bay than a 240z. I was also wandering about rear ends, should i go with and s130 turbo limited slip, or a z31 turbo limited slip?
    The rb25 would be a cool setup, so I hope it works out for you. Iive got a non-LSD R200 in my car, but its converted to use CV axles instead of U-joints (=no more breaking ) I actually bought an LSD from a z31 that was fully rebuilt, but my car has some modifications back there and it wasnt going to go in without some effort (more than I wanted to deal with.) I honestly dont know if my issue was "normal," but I know a lot of people use z31 setups. I do think it would be better than what I have, but it wasnt worth the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thursdaybuff
    my buddy had an rb20 put in his 280z and the swap worked out just fine for him.
    Cool, is he local? Does he want to get-in some runs with an old-school L28 with a bone-stock longblock and literally 250k+ miles on it? I havent run any other turbo-converted old z's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspeed
    Cool, is he local? Does he want to get-in some runs with an old-school L28 with a bone-stock longblock and literally 250k+ miles on it? I havent run any other turbo-converted old z's.
    he would if he hadn't snapped the rear end on it a little while ago. unfortunately he never changed it out during the swap so he left the stock one so now he's in the process of switching it out.

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    Do the r180's use cv axels.
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