K series guys ( well mainly gregg lol)

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Originally Posted by 1civic

Your right, most run e85 or q16 i'm sure, and atlanta don't have any fully tricked out k26 or k27 blocks so keep watching youtube...LOL

But

Remember no bench racing now, but since you started i'll ask this; How many MPH in 1/4 would I pick up on 100 shot? Just compare some notes, and you could calulate a time for me on spray... Just sayin!!

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Trust me i dont watch them on youtube i was clarifying what david was asking, you were the one that said these 10 sec cars drive to the track then drive home...he said they dont which is prob accurate :goodjob: me personally i cant stand the sound of an na 4 cylinder but thats just me

And what was your trap speed and ill let ya know if i should be worried :goodjob: and it doesnt matter how many mph you pick up its how low that 60' and ET are...plus dont go gettin tree'd by an old blind dude at the tree :ninja:

DAMN............. nice thread..... been MIA but catching up now..

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Originally Posted by 1civic

since when are bike's a car? We can talk your's vs mine, that's cool.. But don't speak about your bike, bring your car out..

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You keep cutting weight to try to have the equivalent of an enclosed bike. Seems fair enough of a race.

My car is a heavy full weight tank of a car. Just a daily driver with AC, power everything, etc.
Your car is a fire-breathin', ear-splittin' tin can with a built race motor that wins major race events.
It's probably not a fair race. You should give me the back tire at least.

And yes to most the All Motor game is a joke, but until you drive one, or hell even ride in one I wouldn't knock it... Just sayin!!!!!

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Originally Posted by David88vert

You keep cutting weight to try to have the equivalent of an enclosed bike. Seems fair enough of a race.

My car is a heavy full weight tank of a car. Just a daily driver with AC, power everything, etc.
Your car is a fire-breathin', ear-splittin' tin can with a built race motor that wins major race events.
It's probably not a fair race. You should give me the back tire at least.

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Ok smart ass, my car is a full interior street car that ran a local event to support my scene... Your comments may seem funny to you, but it makes you look like a total ass...

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Remember, your the one who is talking smack to a little four banger... I've got half the ego you do!!! Bahahahahahah

Damn guys I can't even keep up with this thread

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Originally Posted by boosted347

Ps...im ready for our race in november :ninja:

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I'd like to do that too but we'll see how things turn out. I might show up in all motor trim again.

run motor to motor? :taun:

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Originally Posted by Moseley

Damn guys I can't even keep up with this thread



I'd like to do that too but we'll see how things turn out. I might show up in all motor trim again.

run motor to motor? :taun:

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They can't run motor to motor!!! They need the turbo's and superchargers to outrun us!!:taun:

KILLS FORUM FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:cheers:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

Ok smart ass, my car is a full interior street car that ran a local event to support my scene... Your comments may seem funny to you, but it makes you look like a total ass...

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Remember, your the one who is talking smack to a little four banger... I've got half the ego you do!!! Bahahahahahah

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What I said was true - IS was a major event, and you won. The car descriptions were accurate also.

I'm not talking smack - just asking for the back tire, to make it fair. That's the least that a race car like yours can do for a daily driver like mine.

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Originally Posted by 1civic

They can't run motor to motor!!! They need the turbo's and superchargers to outrun us!!:taun:

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We can't help that you can't afford to buy a turbo or supercharger. I offered to let you run my NA 4cyl stock Honda already.

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Originally Posted by 1civic

And yes to most the All Motor game is a joke, but until you drive one, or hell even ride in one I wouldn't knock it... Just sayin!!!!!

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Rode in plenty of na 4 cylinders...fwd just isnt my thing though :no:

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Originally Posted by Moseley

Damn guys I can't even keep up with this thread



I'd like to do that too but we'll see how things turn out. I might show up in all motor trim again.

run motor to motor? :taun:

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Ha yea ill yank my snail off :yes:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

They can't run motor to motor!!! They need the turbo's and superchargers to outrun us!!:taun:

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Man bobby you sure do talk alot of shit...i easily and i mean easily could of built an all motor 347 that would dog fuck the shit out of your car but i didnt, i wanted to be different, and i was i was the first turbo sn95 in my area...now there are 6 or so, but dont worry man when i get rid of mine and pick up my new car ilt will be all motor and it will beat the shit out of yours on the track and on the street :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

Ok smart ass, my car is a full interior street car that ran a local event to support my scene... Your comments may seem funny to you, but it makes you look like a total ass...

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Remember, your the one who is talking smack to a little four banger... I've got half the ego you do!!! Bahahahahahah

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And here you go playing the crybaby card of o i have half the cylinders, you wanna talk shit to v8s then you cant complain when they call you out, just sayin

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Originally Posted by boosted347

Trust me i dont watch them on youtube i was clarifying what david was asking, you were the one that said these 10 sec cars drive to the track then drive home...he said they dont which is prob accurate :goodjob: me personally i cant stand the sound of an na 4 cylinder but thats just me

And what was your trap speed and ill let ya know if i should be worried :goodjob: and it doesnt matter how many mph you pick up its how low that 60' and ET are...plus dont go gettin tree'd by an old blind dude at the tree :ninja:

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1.9 was best 60 of the day on the drag radial, highest trap was 109...

And I spoke per rules, they are sopose to be true street cars..

p.s

me no crybaby, me talking shit dogg...
And
I built enough mustangs to know what you can and can't do... LOL

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Originally Posted by David88vert

We can't help that you can't afford to buy a turbo or supercharger. I offered to let you run my NA 4cyl stock Honda already.

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Save your money and buy an LSX for that musk-rat you have, maybe then you will get to drive it.. ;)

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Originally Posted by 1civic

1.9 was best 60 of the day on the drag radial, highest trap was 109...

And I spoke per rules, they are sopose to be true street cars..

p.s

me no crybaby, me talking shit dogg...
And
I built enough mustangs to know what you can and can't do... LOL

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So you already have a dead hook on radial car...add slicks you may cut a 1.6 at best but with a 100 shot you may have traction problems...i still dont think you are touching a damn near 130 mph trap car...just saying man

And that was a crybaby card, you brought up how you are just a 4 cylinder...t shouldnt matter if your car is as fast/slow/quick/consistent as you say it is <----generalized statement

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Originally Posted by boosted347

So you already have a dead hook on radial car...add slicks you may cut a 1.6 at best but with a 100 shot you may have traction problems...i still dont think you are touching a damn near 130 mph trap car...just saying man

And that was a crybaby card, you brought up how you are just a 4 cylinder...t shouldnt matter if your car is as fast/slow/quick/consistent as you say it is <----generalized statement

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i was thinking 120 traps, but who knows till I try... And I was making a joke about half the ego cause I have a four banger, sry thought that was funny... ;)

Look at all the pages and paragraghs :blah::blah: :gay:

Arguing over a few hundred hp lol

since the sick is gone i could spray 300 on it if i wanted thats more than your built 4 bangers have :lmfao:

But Ill be staying all motor on the c6 :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

i was thinking 120 traps, but who knows till I try... And I was making a joke about half the ego cause I have a four banger, sry thought that was funny... ;)

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Well mine has been 126 on radial with a 2.3 60' and letting out due to a slipping clutch :cry: but now we got the clutch problem solved and some slicks so bring it on bitches :taun: :lmao:

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Originally Posted by ZOSICK

Look at all the pages and paragraghs :blah::blah: :gay:

Arguing over a few hundred hp lol

since the sick is gone i could spray 300 on it if i wanted thats more than your built 4 bangers have :lmfao:

But Ill be staying all motor on the c6 :goodjob:

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This guy

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Originally Posted by ZOSICK

Look at all the pages and paragraghs :blah::blah: :gay:

Arguing over a few hundred hp lol

since the sick is gone i could spray 300 on it if i wanted thats more than your built 4 bangers have :lmfao:

But Ill be staying all motor on the c6 :goodjob:

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wanna catch the end of the 4 banger train?:taun:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

Save your money and buy an LSX for that musk-rat you have, maybe then you will get to drive it.. ;)

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Why on earth would I do that? I would just drop in a Dart 363 and call it a day.

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Originally Posted by David88vert

Why on earth would I do that? I would just drop in a Dart 363 and call it a day.

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You need a chevy motor to make it reliable though...:taun:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

i was thinking 120 traps, but who knows till I try... And I was making a joke about half the ego cause I have a four banger, sry thought that was funny... ;)

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So, you expect about a 12.0 or so?

Also, I did find it a little funny.

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Originally Posted by David88vert

So, you expect about a 12.0 or so?

Also, I did find it a little funny.

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Hell ya, Be nice to go 11.99... But 12.2 I'd be happy!!:lmfao:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

You need a chevy motor to make it reliable though...:taun:

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It's very reliable already. I can rely on it to break down every time I drive it, right?

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Originally Posted by David88vert

It's very reliable already. I can rely on it to break down every time I drive it, right?

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F ix
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Hell ya, Be nice to go 11.99... But 12.2 I'd be happy!!:lmfao:

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If you are running that slow on spray, you might be at risk to be beat by chouston.....

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Originally Posted by 1civic

F ix
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But still....
First On Race Day...

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Originally Posted by David88vert

If you are running that slow on spray, you might be at risk to be beat by chouston.....

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It happens, but not by his non diving ass!! :boobies:


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Originally Posted by ZOSICK

Look at all the pages and paragraghs :blah::blah: :gay:

Arguing over a few hundred hp lol

since the sick is gone i could spray 300 on it if i wanted thats more than your built 4 bangers have :lmfao:

But Ill be staying all motor on the c6 :goodjob:

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Ahhhh nice to see you're downplaying it already :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Moseley

Ahhhh nice to see you're downplaying it already :goodjob:

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It's in the shop getting mods as we speak, on that list is a single fogger!! Bahahahahah...

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Originally Posted by ZOSICK

Look at all the pages and paragraghs :blah::blah: :gay:

Arguing over a few hundred hp lol

since the sick is gone i could spray 300 on it if i wanted thats more than your built 4 bangers have :lmfao:

But I have gotten better at downplaying my car since the race with Moseley and i should be able to pull off the whole "Ill be staying all motor on the c6" downplay this time :goodjob:

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Fixed:D

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Originally Posted by 1civic

It happens, but not by his non diving ass!! :boobies:


F orfiet
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Nice way to be creative.......the thing about acronyms is people actually have to like a car to make one worth a damn about it, hence why there are no good ones for a honda except
Hold
On
Not
Done
Accelerating
But the only reason thats funny is its true for 99% of hondas out there

HAHA :lmfao: :lmfao:

Downplay....:thinking:

No need to worry about my little c6 its all show and no go :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by ZOSICK

HAHA :lmfao: :lmfao:

Downplay....:thinking:

No need to worry about my little c6 its all show and no go :goodjob:

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A 12 second honda will beat a base c6 red light to red light, it has been said in this thread before

Damn having to read 7 pages when i get off work to catch up lol!

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

When the highest whp setup locally is 252, thats dreaming. Hit 270, 280, 290 before you talk about 50WHP gains from stroke and cams. No offense but i dont see that happeneing any time soon i dont give a shit what some guy on HT made

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We will see what happens soon, I could care less what someone on HT makes. I believe mikes motor will make within 5whp +/-, but noone said this would be pump gas.....

My motor my goal is 260whp so we will see what happens.

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Originally Posted by 112480

Oh really joey? then why matt(05dc5s) is making 290whp pump gas(for now) with a 89x99mm? his motor is well built with OFF THE SHELF parts and still didnt crack 300whp(for now) so what makes u think a 89x97mm pro3 setup will?? In that case, why build a k when u can make 300whp on a h2b? understand joey, i'm not saying it isnt possible. of course it is! But i rather have a off the self 300whp K with the potential to make A LOT more power and still be a DD then have a 300whp h2b that is realistically NOT a DD. Yes u CAN DD a 300whp h2b but the reality is ur not going too!

Joey did mike jones ever tell you what i told him the guy with the h2b down here in Mobile that runs 12.2/12.3 at ISD said??? About 3 weeks ago when we were at the 1/8 mile track in Irvington,AL his car messed up. He said he thinks he burned up some valves and said his car kept running lean as hell all night long. why did he keep running? i dont know. but he said the next day he will take the motor out and put in higher com pistion(just 11:5 i think) and pro 3's vs his blox whatever. but its funny what he told me and you can ask him yourself when u see him in Nov at ISD.

He told me that when he HAD AN H TRANS ON HIS SETUP HIS CAR MADE 238WHP. And when he put the B16 TRANS ON IT MADE 228WHP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now why would he lie to me about it?? Ask him for urself if you dont believe me. He was serious. he wasnt trying to downplay his car or anything but when i told him about mikejones claims of 300whp with pro3's and head work etc etc , he even said "no way"!! Matter of fact when i told him that, thats when he told me he made 238 on the H trans and 228 on the B16 trans. NOW!, he DID say that even though he made 10whp LESS on the b16 trans, his car got a FULL sec FASTER at the track just by putting the b16 trans on:goodjob: but as far as power, it set him back 10whp:yes:

Now joey his car is still fast!....matter of fact i think i'll go by TDC today and talk to him to see whats up with his car.

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About the guy in AL, the only time i remember him talking about losing power was when he switched from hondata to neptune and lost 25whp. So he told you he lost hp by switching to b series trans.....but in this thread he makes 6whp/5ftlb.........http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...-a-beast/page2

i dunno seems weird he would give 2 different answers....

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Originally Posted by DarKStaR

Damn having to read 7 pages when i get off work to catch up lol!



We will see what happens soon, I could care less what someone on HT makes. I believe mikes motor will make within 5whp +/-, but noone said this would be pump gas.....

My motor my goal is 260whp so we will see what happens.



About the guy in AL, the only time i remember him talking about losing power was when he switched from hondata to neptune and lost 25whp. So he told you he lost hp by switching to b series trans.....but in this thread he makes 6whp/5ftlb.........http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...-a-beast/page2

i dunno seems weird he would give 2 different answers....

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Lol nice legitimate written fact, not hearsay :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by DarKStaR

Damn having to read 7 pages when i get off work to catch up lol!



We will see what happens soon, I could care less what someone on HT makes. I believe mikes motor will make within 5whp +/-, but noone said this would be pump gas.....

My motor my goal is 260whp so we will see what happens.



About the guy in AL, the only time i remember him talking about losing power was when he switched from hondata to neptune and lost 25whp. So he told you he lost hp by switching to b series trans.....but in this thread he makes 6whp/5ftlb.........http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...-a-beast/page2

i dunno seems weird he would give 2 different answers....

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Well joey like I said u can ask him urself. Funny u brought that up and at the same time he told me that he lost 10whp word for word at the track a few weeks ago. But I didn't get to go by there today and I might go tommorrow, either way, pm me ur number and i'll let u talk to him personally over the phone:goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Moseley

no offense mike but I'm a little skeptical of this 300whp number. making 300whp requires a certain amount of wtq at a certain rpm. so take your pick:

300whp = 210wtq @ 7500
300whp = 196wtq @ 8000
300whp = 185wtq @ 8500
300whp = 175wtq @ 9000

looking at those numbers it is obvious that the easiest way to make 300whp with a honda is to rev it to 9k and still be making at least 175wtq at that rpm. But when stroke, rod length, or compression are changed... the cam requirement of the engine is changed also. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't expect a cam that makes 250whp on a stock stroke, to be worth a damn on a bottom end with different geometry, no matter how awesome the bottom end is, you might only see 5-10whp. I also hope you aren't planning on the 196wtq @ 8000 route... because that would be more VE than a cammed K20, and with a longer stroke that is pretty much impossible.

So on a legit dyno jet, I think 270-280whp from an H is pretty feasible. but just like 1/4 mile times, every little bit is more and more difficult to achieve. I'd expect it to take a perfect cam for the application, 13:1 or higher, proper fuel like Q16, perfect header and intake manifold, all dialed in... and at least 2.4L to have an H make 300whp. the only reason I say that is because it takes many of those same things to have a K make a legit 300whp, and I would expect the H to be a little more difficult due to the head design.

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My motor will make over 200 tq and it is 13.1 or higher plus im not running the same cam thats in my dads motor . I bought pro 3s . It is also a 2.4 litre so thanks for the recipe i think i already have everything lol.

On a serious note it is a goal but i will be very closs to it . My motor is a good but bigger then my dads with more compression , more stroke , bigger cams and h2b . If most h2bs make 20hp more and my dads car is running a h tranny whant number you think it would put up with a h2b mosely ? Im sure it wouldnt be twenty hp more but even ten more hp would be nice with better gearing . Ive done all the math and i have the shit to do it with so we will see what it does. The only thing i dont have is the money for a custom header which i need so im going with logistic motorsports and if it doesnt do what i want ill change that up. Everything else i have . i would like to go with 90mm pistons but im ready to get this thing done and have a spare sleeved block so for now it will be 88mm.

I dont need to talk to him, every setup is different, he might have lost power, but im just wondering why he would come on here and post that he made power. Its nothing against you or questioning your story, it just makes me curious.


Man i got to get to work on my shit, time is counting down till nov. Got my TB in today and IMG should be here next week, all thats left to order is exhaust and parts to make my intake with. Mikes dad should be about done putting the valves in my head, so it will be ready to be slapped on the bottom end. Guess we will see what my heavy car will do :)