slow run

[David88vert]

I used to have a Mr Freeze kit - didnt like it. Thinking about the AEM kit now, or maybe just put on a A2W.

[boosted347]

I got a devils own watermeth kit...

Ha I was about to tell him this

I used to have a Mr Freeze kit - didnt like it. Thinking about the AEM kit now, or maybe just put on a A2W.

Go a2w and meth cant go wrong with that

[justnprsh07]

A2w is a pain in the ass... Unless your doing drag only and even then its a pain in the ass because depending on the holding tank size ice only last maybe 2 passes before u need to drain and add more ice and actually hurts u if u dd it unless u dont have anykind of cooler at all

[justnprsh07]

Meth is nice but e85 and nitrous is better

[boosted347]

Meth is nice but e85 and nitrous is better

Why dont we have any e85 down here, if we did id switch over

[David88vert]

Why dont we have any e85 down here, if we did id switch over

We do.
http://e85vehicles.com/e85-georgia.htm

[David88vert]

Meth is nice but e85 and nitrous is better

Won't address my off-boost cooling issue.

I do have a IC ring for my nitrous kit, but probably won't use it on this car.

[David88vert]

A2w is a pain in the ass... Unless your doing drag only and even then its a pain in the ass because depending on the holding tank size ice only last maybe 2 passes before u need to drain and add more ice and actually hurts u if u dd it unless u dont have anykind of cooler at all

Actually, A2W is better than A2A for a DD. There were a lot of tests on it. Here is one that is specific to foxbodys. http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...res/index.html

I would definitely ice it at the track and take advantage of it though.

[justnprsh07]

I got a l2w setup on my car and its not a thrown togetjer cheap setup and im not sure its worth it as its a pain to deal with

[justnprsh07]

Why dont we have any e85 down here, if we did id switch over

Closest e85 station for us is ftbenning or auburn... As soon as columbus or phenix city gets a e85 station im swapping over

[boosted347]

We do.
http://e85vehicles.com/e85-georgia.htm

Theres one in ft benning hmmm

[ludeguy420]

damn you dipped the hell out of there

[David88vert]

You do know that e85 takes a large delivery fuel system, right?

[boosted347]

You do know that e85 takes a large delivery fuel system, right?

Yes lol

[Vteckidd]

E85 i was never impressed with. It takes a much larger amount of fuel, it corrodes, i always thought A2W was much better and simpler. But ive never run either so........

[justnprsh07]

a2a you just putt on and go l2a you got so much more to deal with not to mention the never ending supply of ice u need to make it work right... I just take small styro cups freeze the water amd when it comes time to putt it in I just tear the cupp off and it drops right in and stays frozen longer. Trick too it is get the watter really cold and.keep it there... "ice and salt"

[David88vert]

E85 i was never impressed with. It takes a much larger amount of fuel, it corrodes, i always thought A2W was much better and simpler. But ive never run either so........

For boosted applications, e85 is a great fuel. It allows you to keep adding boost but gives a safety net.

[boosted347]

For boosted applications, e85 is a great fuel. It allows you to keep adding boost but gives a safety net.

Exactly why id love to switch, but for me to actually take advantage of its potential id have to get a DART block

[David88vert]

Exactly why id love to switch, but for me to actually take advantage of its potential id have to get a DART block

No need for e85, until you get into race gas territory. Pump gas does fine on the stock blocks.

[boosted347]

yes it does, my car goes well for what it is...til i get a real block ill be a 93 warrior

[Vteckidd]

For boosted applications, e85 is a great fuel. It allows you to keep adding boost but gives a safety net.

because of its "cooling" properties ?

What are teh advantages of E85 over C16? E85 takes much more fuel does it not to make the same hp?

[David88vert]

because of its "cooling" properties ?

What are teh advantages of E85 over C16? E85 takes much more fuel does it not to make the same hp?

It suppresses detonation, so you can run more agressive timing with it than you can with pump gas. An extra 2+ degrees can help a lot with power, depending on the car. Or you can crank up the boost farther, without knock.
The downside is that E85 requires about 30% more fuel delivery than pump, but since it is generally cheaper, it is much cheaper than C16.
In some cases, cars on e85 are making more power than they did on C16, but in an all motor car, I'd probably still to pump on the street, and race gas on the track. Seems to me that there are more success stories with boosted cars, and less with all motor.
The cooling effect, as a lot of people put it, is that it burns cooler, and the larger amount of fuel required by e85 also works to cool the pistons.
Average price for e85 right now is $3.31. Add in the 30% more fuel needed, and the cost increases to $4.30 to be comparable. Race gas is more than $4.30.

[Vteckidd]

Ahh ok thanks for explaining. I think for most people the benefit isn't worth it. And I mean most meaning 90% of the turbo or NA guys out there. (Honda wise)

400-500 Hp turbo cars and 200-240 NA Cars prob don't see the benefit simply because c16 requires no other precautions or additives. You simply load another map and dump the fuel in.

I could see guys like Spoolin going e85 because they are much more prone to detonation and it can be much deadlier at 800whp than 400-500.

NA cars are making 240-290 on 93 octane

I bet the mug higher Hp cars like boosted v8s see a much better reason to switch.

Agree?

[boosted347]

Ahh ok thanks for explaining. I think for most people the benefit isn't worth it. And I mean most meaning 90% of the turbo or NA guys out there. (Honda wise)

400-500 Hp turbo cars and 200-240 NA Cars prob don't see the benefit simply because c16 requires no other precautions or additives. You simply load another map and dump the fuel in.

I could see guys like Spoolin going e85 because they are much more prone to detonation and it can be much deadlier at 800whp than 400-500.

NA cars are making 240-290 on 93 octane

I bet the mug higher Hp cars like boosted v8s see a much better reason to switch.

Agree?

I think spoolin is on e85 actually and yea your points make perfect sense to me

[David88vert]

Yes, that is exactly the use - higher power street cars.

[Z0_o6]

i ran e85 and loved it. this was at ~500hp, so it was on the lower end of your scale, but it made the power way easier to obtain, ESPECIALLY considering the ambient temps of GA in the summer.

[boosted347]

i ran e85 and loved it. this was at ~500hp, so it was on the lower end of your scale, but it made the power way easier to obtain, ESPECIALLY considering the ambient temps of GA in the summer.

this guy lol long time no see man

[91s13]

it's just not enough e85 stations in my area for me to use it

[David88vert]

I've got one right around the corner from me, but not making enough power or boost to benefit from it. Plus, I would need to upgrade my fuel system to be able to use it.

[Z0_o6]

this guy lol long time no see man

i'm in hiding a little bit lol. got rid of the STi, the civic is in parts currently and I now live 1100 miles away... so not much to say lol

[justnprsh07]

I've got one right around the corner from me, but not making enough power or boost to benefit from it. Plus, I would need to upgrade my fuel system to be able to use it.

I wish I had one right around the corner bc thats exactly the route I would go.. Q16 is $74 a gallon and that wont last through the weekend

[h22 jones]

74 dollars a gallon wow lol.

[David88vert]

I wish I had one right around the corner bc thats exactly the route I would go.. Q16 is $74 a gallon and that wont last through the weekend

Get a 55 gal drum of e85, and a hand pump. Much cheaper option.

[justnprsh07]

74 dollars a gallon wow lol.

Lol my bad $74 5gal.... Or $14.80 a gallon still not good

[91s13]

Lol my bad $74 5gal.... Or $14.80 a gallon still not good

i had to pay $67 for 5 gallons of c16 so i feel your pain

[h22 jones]

I drive a expidition so spending my life savings on gas is something im used to .200 a week.

[91s13]

I drive a expidition so spending my life savings on gas is something im used to .200 a week.

wow

[boosted347]

I pay $3.5x a gallon :p pump gas warrior ftw