should the entire kf be password protected?

[Lankhoss]

ive come to realize that Lank, Stone, and smacked are off in their own little world. So be it.

Stone has said MULTIPLE times his car is capable of 9 second passes and its going to make over 800whp. Want me to go dig the posts up, cause i will.

I am a modest man, so if you can pull those up I'll admit that I'm wrong.

I personally haven't seen it, nor have I heard him say it in person.

But if you can find posts where he claimed that, I'll happily admit you were right and I was wrong here in this thread.

[Vteckidd]

I am a modest man, so if you can pull those up I'll admit that I'm wrong.

I personally haven't seen it, nor have I heard him say it in person.

But if you can find posts where he claimed that, I'll happily admit you were right and I was wrong here in this thread.

Lets observe the irony shall we

yeah, everyone is diff. some build cars for diff reasons. i built mine to race and win some money. i dont even have a roll cage for the one reason of looking street as possible

there is no such thing as a 1/4 time. it remains a 12.2 is my best time

you know i will run anything...top fuel dragster, what ever you got

Im Back

Originally Posted by Bstone
hey guys i only have 70K on my s2000 and the local honda dealer told me that my water pump should last 200K miles. Could my turbo kill it. i only have 1000K FI miles. Its making a strange clicking noise while its ideling. im not comlpetely sure it the water pump but its coming form right where the water pump is. an ideas

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...&postcount=392


This motherfucker has been talking shit since APRIL son, APRIL! I cant go dig through all the posts right now, just search his name. He was claming to be the FASTEST person on IA, he talked gobs of shit about George, David, Hunter, all kinds of people were no match for his S2000.

He claims he will run ANYONE for any amount of money, but backs down from a $100 bet against a CRX.

That only means 1 of 3 things

1) The car is still broken
2) Hes scared
3) The car doesnt make the power, or run the times he claims

[Vteckidd]

here he is implying his car ran 10s

look man, you have a beast and no one questions that,,,,, dont fuck with my shit. you have double the cylinders and double the turbos and have only been in a little over a second faster than me......i cant beat you and im not gonna try but i dont go talking about your shit

i actually figured he had been 8s..

last i checked no one mentioned you in this thread

Simple math means "a little over a second faster than me" and thinking that the person ran 8s, means Bstone was saying his car had gone 10s already.

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Thacker GTO


LIES

[Lankhoss]

here he is implying his car ran 10s






Simple math means "a little over a second faster than me" and thinking that the person ran 8s, means Bstone was saying his car had gone 10s already.

Post 116 and 119
Thacker GTO


LIES

So this is the closest you have come to your claims, and I admit it is a good find and a post I was unaware of.

However, he still A) never actually claimed a 9 second pass and B) it sounds like he's INSINUATING a 10 second pass, not a 9.

I still don't see where he claims 900whp or calls his car God's chariot.

There's so much talk about respect and lack thereof in this thread, and for some reason people think it's all about the car they drive. I don't give a shit that you drive a CRX. I don't care if you're faster or slower than me. But one of the biggest reasons I don't like you, is because you flat out exagerrate most of the accusations you make against people. That completely kills your credibility, and does nothing more than create drama. I don't think you can be objective about anything, as it looks like you just spout off whatever sounds best to you.

I'm sure you have your reasons for not liking Btstone, and they may very well be good reasons. He's my friend, and if you don't like him that's your choice.....I'm not going to hate you because of it. But if you're going to smear accusations across this forum, AT LEAST make them factual or don't make them at all.

[chunky]

I don't know where you guys keep coming up with this stuff. What does not wanting to handicap your car have to do with DIGNITY? If I wanted my car to be a 14 second car, I'd have a 14 second car. I like my car exactly how it is, why on EARTH would I want my car to be slower???

This is the thing, you guys keep ASSUMING that you're being ridiculed or insulted or whatever, you're not. Nobody has "openly" stated it, because nobody ACTUALLY thinks less of you for having a slower car. Please remove the tin foil hats! It has nothing to do with the car you drive. I have raced Civics, Integras, Evos, S2000's, a 280Z, and other cars that were a lot less expensive than me with much smaller motors....and some of them beat me! But none of the cars required me to do something to make my car slower.

I have my own set of stipulations when I run someone...but it's not because I'm a snob or disrespect someone for what they drive, but I do this for FUN so I choose to race within parameters that make the race enjoyable. My car performs best between the speeds of 60 and 160mph, so I don't want to do a 20mph roll, regardless of what kinda car it is. I've also come to the conclusion that it's a waste of time to race someone with a very low gear ratio, because the two of us will never be able to line up with both of us in our sweet spot. Again, has nothing to do with snobbery.....it just takes a certain setup to be a good fun run for me. I don't like having to run well outside of my performance envelope, and I don't try to make someone run within mine if it will be well outside theirs.

A "ricer" is a mentality, has nothing to do with what kinda car you drive. Whether I do or don't respect a HUMAN BEING has to do with the way they act and treat people, and has NOTHING to do with the car they drive. I don't even understand the mentality of changing my view of a person because of the car they drive. Now, being a little judgemental on the cosmetics they choose to put on their car might be a different story ha ha

The only reason I mention personal dignity is b/c of how indignant you guys get when someone asks for a handicapped race, despite the fact that it's a COMMON and ACCEPTED thing in sports, bracket racing, PAX indexing for autocross, etc. Even when there's MILLIONS OF DOLLARS at stake, boxers & mma fighters will drop weight to fight a guy a class down. Mike's request was definitely not outlandish and is certainly not indicative of a ricer mentality since handicaps are nothing new to the world of sports and competition.

Regarding racing outside of your performance envelope, that's cool. Totally fine. However, don't call someone a ricer b/c they don't mind running outside their performance envelope. Some people want to know if they've got enough power to pull on another car from a gear down or whether they can get another car from a dig on street tires. If you aren't down with that, that's totally FINE, just don't act like it makes the other person a ricer b/c it doesn't.

With your last statement, you highlighted the essence of a ricer - putting ridiculous amounts of money into looking fast instead of actually being fast. Does mike have a bodykit on his car? NO. Does he have a spoiler? NO. Does he have a $5000 paint job on a $2000 car? NO. How does he fit the ricer mentality at all?

He's got way more under the hood than on the paint/body of his car, and yet you people insist on calling him a ricer? Where's the sense in that, unless you are just looking to start drama by being rude without any reason for being so. You guys are just adding to the definition of a ricer at your own convenience in order to goad people. Then you stand back and act like the person had no reason for getting riled up.

I don't judge anyone based on what car they drive. If someone with a slower car wants to run me from 40mph but asks that I start in 3rd, I'm not going to call them a ricer. I'll either say, OK let's do it, or politely decline. I could decline like a douchebag, calling them ricer, this, that, or the other, but that's not how I am. Maybe I'm just too laid back about these things.

So this is the closest you have come to your claims, and I admit it is a good find and a post I was unaware of.

However, he still A) never actually claimed a 9 second pass and B) it sounds like he's INSINUATING a 10 second pass, not a 9.

I still don't see where he claims 900whp or calls his car God's chariot.

There's so much talk about respect and lack thereof in this thread, and for some reason people think it's all about the car they drive. I don't give a shit that you drive a CRX. I don't care if you're faster or slower than me. But one of the biggest reasons I don't like you, is because you flat out exagerrate most of the accusations you make against people. That completely kills your credibility, and does nothing more than create drama. I don't think you can be objective about anything, as it looks like you just spout off whatever sounds best to you.

I'm sure you have your reasons for not liking Btstone, and they may very well be good reasons. He's my friend, and if you don't like him that's your choice.....I'm not going to hate you because of it. But if you're going to smear accusations across this forum, AT LEAST make them factual or don't make them at all.

If you guys are going to start with calling Mike a ricer, don't be surprised when similar exaggerations are pointed in your direction. By the FACTS, Mike is no more of a ricer than Bstone's s2000 is god's chariot.

In this particular case, Mike is just responding to the drama that other people created with their own stretched-truth statements about him (ricer, etc). Mike & Aaron worked out the terms to a run, so that's that. I don't see the point in everyone else jumping on Mike's ass. The run has been setup according to terms agreeable to both parties. No need to keep spinning drama at this point.

[Lankhoss]

The only reason I mention personal dignity is b/c of how indignant you guys get when someone asks for a handicapped race, despite the fact that it's a COMMON and ACCEPTED thing in sports, bracket racing, PAX indexing for autocross, etc. Even when there's MILLIONS OF DOLLARS at stake, boxers & mma fighters will drop weight to fight a guy a class down. Mike's request was definitely not outlandish and is certainly not indicative of a ricer mentality since handicaps are nothing new to the world of sports and competition.

Regarding racing outside of your performance envelope, that's cool. Totally fine. However, don't call someone a ricer b/c they don't mind running outside their performance envelope. Some people want to know if they've got enough power to pull on another car from a gear down or whether they can get another car from a dig on street tires. If you aren't down with that, that's totally FINE, just don't act like it makes the other person a ricer b/c it doesn't.

With your last statement, you highlighted the essence of a ricer - putting ridiculous amounts of money into looking fast instead of actually being fast. Does mike have a bodykit on his car? NO. Does he have a spoiler? NO. Does he have a $5000 paint job on a $2000 car? NO. How does he fit the ricer mentality at all?

He's got way more under the hood than on the paint/body of his car, and yet you people insist on calling him a ricer? Where's the sense in that, unless you are just looking to start drama by being rude without any reason for being so. You guys are just adding to the definition of a ricer at your own convenience in order to goad people. Then you stand back and act like the person had no reason for getting riled up.

I don't judge anyone based on what car they drive. If someone with a slower car wants to run me from 40mph but asks that I start in 3rd, I'm not going to call them a ricer. I'll either say, OK let's do it, or politely decline. I could decline like a douchebag, calling them ricer, this, that, or the other, but that's not how I am. Maybe I'm just too laid back about these things.



If you guys are going to start with calling Mike a ricer, don't be surprised when similar exaggerations are pointed in your direction. By the FACTS, Mike is no more of a ricer than Bstone's s2000 is god's chariot.

In this particular case, Mike is just responding to the drama that other people created with their own stretched-truth statements about him (ricer, etc). Mike & Aaron worked out the terms to a run, so that's that. I don't see the point in everyone else jumping on Mike's ass. The run has been setup according to terms agreeable to both parties. No need to keep spinning drama at this point.

You know, trying to have a conversation with you is damn near impossible. You don't even pay attention, you just keep repeating yourself.

So the only way someone is a ricer is if they put some stupid shit all over their car or do a burnout in a parking lot? You are using PROFESSIONAL SPORTS as an example of how people should be during laid back street racing that isn't for money or organized competition????? Do you think those professional athletes WANT to change weights?? You think they'd do it if money, fame, respect, whatever weren't involved? And dropping or gaining a lot of weight definitely takes its toll on the body, it's usually NOT good for a fighter to do....especially losing weight.

You keep making your argument "us vs. them," instead of objectively trying to look at the conversation. And it's ok for Mike to exagerrate just because someone else did it first? Really....REALLY??? That's your argument???? "But MOM, he started it!!!" You have GOT to be kidding me!!

It's situations like these that determine whether someone earns respect or not. The fact that Mike, or whoever, CHOOSES to drop to someone else's level is exactly why I don't and probably never will respect the fucker.

Quit trying to JUSTIFY all this stupid shit, because it makes BOTH of you only look worse!

[chunky]

You know, trying to have a conversation with you is damn near impossible. You don't even pay attention, you just keep repeating yourself.

So the only way someone is a ricer is if they put some stupid shit all over their car or do a burnout in a parking lot? You are using PROFESSIONAL SPORTS as an example of how people should be during laid back street racing that isn't for money or organized competition????? Do you think those professional athletes WANT to change weights?? You think they'd do it if money, fame, respect, whatever weren't involved? And dropping or gaining a lot of weight definitely takes its toll on the body, it's usually NOT good for a fighter to do....especially losing weight.

You keep making your argument "us vs. them," instead of objectively trying to look at the conversation. And it's ok for Mike to exagerrate just because someone else did it first? Really....REALLY??? That's your argument???? "But MOM, he started it!!!" You have GOT to be kidding me!!

It's situations like these that determine whether someone earns respect or not. The fact that Mike, or whoever, CHOOSES to drop to someone else's level is exactly why I don't and probably never will respect the fucker.

Quit trying to JUSTIFY all this stupid shit, because it makes BOTH of you only look worse!

The only reason I repeat myself is b/c I'm trying to communicate my thoughts in a way you might understand. Everytime I say something, you get something else out of it than what is intended.

The classic definition of a ricer is someone that spends way more money on looking fast than being fast. Period. I'm not the one trying to stretch the definition. Doing burnouts in a heavily occupied parking lot doesn't make someone a ricer, it makes them a dumbass. They may be a ricer on top of that, but they might just be a dumbass in a really clean 10s car.

All I'm saying is that the simple act of asking for a handicap does not make someone a ricer. The reason why I mention bracket racing, PAX in autocross, and professional fighters is to show precedent. The fighters may not enjoy dropping weight, but the simple act of challenging a heavier fighter to drop weight is not frowned upon in any way. It doesn't make the lighter weight fighter a punk or anything of the sort. It's up to the fighters to determine if it's worth it to meet the terms of the challenge or not.

I'm not making any sort of an us vs. them situation. I'm expressing my thoughts. I met you the same night you ran Bucky in his hatch and I had no problems with anyone. In general, I don't do drama. Mike handled the situation very differently than I would have, but I can see where he's coming from. I'm not saying that because other people started ragging on him that it's ok for him to behave likewise. What I am saying is, "what the hell did you expect?" You can't take shots at someone and then call them out for not being the bigger man and ignoring it. If you take shots, expect a response. When the response comes, don't get mad b/c you basically asked for it.

And honestly, you yourself can't call Mike out for sinking to the lowest common denominator because:

1) You yourself partook in the name calling by calling him a ricer
2) You started to jump on mike when he never called you out

Take that for what you will, but I'm not adding to or stretching the truth, just pointing out what's already happened. Mike is my buddy. When people jump on him, I don't typically jump in with a bunch of name calling. I state my opinions and hope that they help people come to some kind of an understanding while trying to be civil & respectful.

Maybe you don't typically call people you hardly know ricer, but you did in this case. Thus, I can't see that you're on any kind of moral high ground vs. Mike. That's not justification, that's just pointing out what's obvious.

[Lurker]

You are using PROFESSIONAL SPORTS as an example of how people should be during laid back street racing that isn't for money or organized competition?????

2 questions.

Where are the rules to laid back street racing?

Is that different then serious bidness street racing?


I've noticed when you respond to people, you talk as if what you say is written in stone and if somebody doesn't agree they are stupid. Kinda odd for someone expressing a personal opinion.

[Vteckidd]

he even said

Originally Posted by btstone View Post
you know your bitch ass or any of your friends own anythinf that could step to my s2000.

well i offered a race, he declined and it was straight up no handicap. I also have other people with 4 cylinders that will run him , but we all know what wont happen.

That S2000 is like Dres DETOX, that shit aint NEVER COMING OUT