GTI VS SR20 VS TT RX7 + video

[benwaballs]

hey guys so last night ended up being a fun night... i ended meeting up w/ run4cover and a rx7(not sure who he was! but real cool guy) anyway so we did some pulls and it turned out well. rx7 had bolt ons, 240 had sr20 w/ bolt ons, gti has gt28r... anyway the cars were all pretty even i would say. lower speeds i was getting killed but up top was holding on. but all 3 cars were pretty evenly matched who ever got the better jump won. run4cover was limited to 110mph so he never even got pull real hard. rx7 would nail me after 135+ couldn't hang w/ him up top. had lots of fun nice meeting you guys .. i threw i quick vid together, i have a high res if someone wants to host! here is a link

http://media.putfile.com/stg3GTI-VS-SR20-VS-TT-RX7

[slowrolla97]

Hey, this is the person that was with the guy in the rx-7. Fun night last night. If you guys want to meet up agian we will probaly be in the same area as last time. Hope to see yall there.

[benwaballs]

Hey, this is the person that was with the guy in the rx-7. Fun night last night. If you guys want to meet up agian we will probaly be in the same area as last time. Hope to see yall there.

maybe next week but she needs a rest and a oil change bad before we do that again!

[Speedm0(\)key]

great runs man, for a second i thought run4cover was this kid i raced in the STi once with a T28, but wheels are a bit different. i hope i can meet up with you guys soon

[benwaballs]

great runs man, for a second i thought run4cover was this kid i raced in the STi once with a T28, but wheels are a bit different. i hope i can meet up with you guys soon

yea monkey we should shoot 4 next week some time

[SandM]

hey ben, i like the air freshner. trees blowin in the wind. good runs though, looked like a lot of fun.

[benwaballs]

hey ben, i like the air freshner. trees blowin in the wind.

[purplehazing]

hey speed monkey tell me if u think this is a fair run u to benwaballs me in a stock neon against boosted galant

[run4cover]

Yeah, that was alot of fun....my stock ecu is pissing me off, lol, just when the car feels like it's really starting to pull in 4th...BAM!....party's over!

It was nice meeting you and michael (again). In all fairness, I was the only one with no passenger, so I had a weight advantage, but the cars do seem pretty evenly matched.

I probably won't make it out this weekend....planning on pulling the car down for you know what

Hey Benwa....can you email me that video...I can't view anything from that putfile or fire-whatever site.....I wanna see this video

[Jehu]

Hey Benwa....can you email me that video...I can't view anything from that putfile or fire-whatever site.....I wanna see this video

Direct link:
http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/a7-31512364043.wmv

Nice runs...what kind of power are each of you putting down in this vid?

[run4cover]

Direct link:
http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/a7-31512364043.wmv

Nice runs...what kind of power are each of you putting down in this vid?

Thanks, but didn't work for moi.....anyways....I had my S13 dyno' week before last in FL.....it makes 237rwhp and 255rwtq @ 15psi (my daily setting). The car is just a basic bolt-on sr swapped 240...fmic, 255lph fuel pump, and 3" turbo-back exhaust...+8psi up from stock boost

[Speedm0(\)key]

hey speed monkey tell me if u think this is a fair run u to benwaballs me in a stock neon against boosted galant

mind saying that again, i dont get what you are asking.

[run4cover]

mind saying that again, i dont get what you are asking.

you aren't the only one....damn near gave me a headache reading that ish!

[bambooi]

mind saying that again, i dont get what you are asking.

Speedmonkey vs ben's gti
and stock neon vs boosted galant


Hey ben gti what does your car run/trap at the dragstrip. How much hp you got?

[benwaballs]

Hey ben gti what does your car run/trap at the dragstrip. How much hp you got?

not sure never run at a track or got her on the dyno... the apr sites video shows 12.60 at 112, but who knows. http://goapr.com/VW/products/images/Dragstrip.wmv

dyno ive talked 2 ppl claiming anywere from 250-320 but i refuse to put anything but 93oct in it. so i would be happy w/ 250-260 range. iam going to get her on a dyno soon and find out

[1439/2000]

not sure never run at a track or got her on the dyno... the apr sites video shows 12.60 at 112, but who knows. http://goapr.com/VW/products/images/Dragstrip.wmv

dyno ive talked 2 ppl claiming anywere from 250-320 but i refuse to put anything but 93oct in it. so i would be happy w/ 250-260 range. iam going to get her on a dyno soon and find out

Judging by that video you wouldnt run a mid 12. Maybe mid to low 13s with radials and a good driver. Just cause the 28r you have comes stock on an s15 silvia and it's a little small for mid 12s. I mean I've seen 240s do it but that one with just bolt ons you ran probably only puts down 250 and put up a good fight and beat you a few times.

I would just go dyno it and go to the track. Its a humbling experience.

[IntegraXTR]

nice vid, I like that GTi

[Speedm0(\)key]

Speedmonkey vs ben's gti
and stock neon vs boosted galant


Hey ben gti what does your car run/trap at the dragstrip. How much hp you got?

yeah it'll be a good run, probably with the 350z judging from the video.

and the neon and boosted galant i dont even want to talk about. no offense to either parties, just that you two have riced each other out on that ONE retarded thread

[run4cover]

yeah it'll be a good run, probably with the 350z judging from the video.

heh, I think you might want to leave the 350z at home for that one...I don't see a 350z running with either car in that video. I haven't raced a 350 yet, but as a Z32tt owner, I know a 350 putting down the numbers in your sig isn't pulling on any of the cars in that video. My s13 reminds me of my Z32 when it was stage III (dyno'd 320rwhp).

stock tt 300zx's put down your numbers with more torque, and my z32 weighed 3479lbs....I'm guessin a z33 is ~100lbs lighter. Either way, would be fun to see....I would run you, but as of today, the s13 is out of comission (undergoing some mods )....

should be up and running next weekend with a new nose, heart, and lungs

[run4cover]

hey guys so last night ended up being a fun night... i ended meeting up w/ run4cover and a rx7(not sure who he was! but real cool guy) anyway so we did some pulls and it turned out well. rx7 had bolt ons, 240 had sr20 w/ bolt ons, gti has gt28r... anyway the cars were all pretty even i would say. lower speeds i was getting killed but up top was holding on. but all 3 cars were pretty evenly matched who ever got the better jump won. run4cover was limited to 110mph so he never even got pull real hard. rx7 would nail me after 135+ couldn't hang w/ him up top. had lots of fun nice meeting you guys .. i threw i quick vid together, i have a high res if someone wants to host! here is a link

http://media.putfile.com/stg3GTI-VS-SR20-VS-TT-RX7

just watched the vid at work (w/ no sound though), damn good footage and editing. I gotta get me a digi-cam like that.

[bambooi]

im calling you out to the dragstrip benwaballs... Commerce Friday!

[bambooi]

I think the 350z can take your s13 in its current state or be a good race. 237whp. 40/45 roll. 350z has a 6speed, but you have a lighter car. This is bench racing at its finest lol.

[b0ki]

Dammm the GTI is slow for a APR Stage 3 U need to get it tuned and push some more power u can do about 320 WHP with that kit with daily driving..... I used to have GTI ,, any way ithing the ATP stage 3 is a better KIt for the money ;P

[benwaballs]

Dammm the GTI is slow for a APR Stage 3 U need to get it tuned and push some more power u can do about 320 WHP with that kit with daily driving..... I used to have GTI ,, any way ithing the ATP stage 3 is a better KIt for the money ;P

:jerkit: slow 4 an apr APR stage 3? well lets see it was tunned & installed by APR... and no you can not get 320 whp daily driving a stg3 iam already at 25psi, a stg 3+ kit will make 320-335.

atp better then apr? nuff said

[b0ki]

:jerkit: slow 4 an apr APR stage 3? well lets see it was tunned & installed by APR... and no you can not get 320 whp daily driving a stg3 iam already at 25psi, a stg 3+ kit will make 320-335.

atp better then apr? nuff said

Damm man ur driving a VW and u dont know WTF u talking about ... APR is just a name ... look at there kit for $ 4500.00 u make only about 300 whp on full boost damm that sucks ATP is much better and cheaper.
and GT28RS i a better turbo... and u know it for about $ 3200 u can have a nice setup. I used to drive a vw A4 or MK4 call it whatever for long time i know what iam talking about... and the 1.8 T stock engine is good for 400 whp. do some research.

[benwaballs]

Damm man ur driving a VW and u dont know WTF u talking about ... APR is just a name ... look at there kit for $ 4500.00 u make only about 300 whp on full boost damm that sucks ATP is much better and cheaper.
and GT28RS i a better turbo... and u know it for about $ 3200 u can have a nice setup. I used to drive a vw A4 or MK4 call it whatever for long time i know what iam talking about... and the 1.8 T stock engine is good for 400 whp. do some research.

wow you just love to run your mouth and dont know shit, dont you? here go to http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=27 and reread what you THINK you know.

1st apr dosnt make 300whp it makes 290 crank hp. and 338hp on 100oct
stg 3+ makes 300whp
http://goapr.com/VW/products/tvs3_power_figures.html

2nd ATP is no were near the quality that apr is, not to mention that atp dosnt even have software for there kit! plz dont make me start breaking down each kit for you, just go read!

3rd ok smartguy so why is the atp kit better than apr? if you know so much here is your chance to shine.

I used to drive a vw A4 or MK4 call it whatever for long time i know what iam talking about

wow thats a nice statement, iam sure you do know what your talking about and i bet your A4 vw was super fast you wanna talk to me about vws and you dont even know what you drove? you really think anyone is going to take you serious about how much you know about VW when you dont know if you had an A4 or mk4 VW?

your just another shit talker that has nothing better 2 do than to act like you know something when you dont. if you dont like what you see well then you dont have to say shit.

[Jehu]

:jerkit: slow 4 an apr APR stage 3? well lets see it was tunned & installed by APR... and no you can not get 320 whp daily driving a stg3 iam already at 25psi, a stg 3+ kit will make 320-335.

atp better then apr? nuff said

25psi and less than 320? Is this typical? No disrespect as I'm not familiar with GTI's but that seems like a lot of boost for the HP.

My experience is w/ hondas but even the bastard Honda motor (B20a/B21a) would make 300hp on 15-17psi. Is this typical (the difference of Honda's vs VW's being boosted)? I have a friend with an H22 (very much built though) that's getting 420 w/ only 17psi. W/ 25psi, I'd almost expect upwards of 600...

If this is typical, what is the difference (of course, this might not be the post to discuss)?

[benwaballs]

25psi and less than 320? Is this typical? No disrespect as I'm not familiar with GTI's but that seems like a lot of boost for the HP.

My experience is w/ hondas but even the bastard Honda motor (B20a/B21a) would make 300hp on 15-17psi. Is this typical (the difference of Honda's vs VW's being boosted)? I have a friend with an H22 (very much built though) that's getting 420 w/ only 17psi. W/ 25psi, I'd almost expect upwards of 600...

If this is typical, what is the difference (of course, this might not be the post to discuss)?

yea vw is a little crazy when it comes to boost... a chipped 1.8t will hold about 19psi on the stock turbo. about 190-210whp max at 19psi yea BT setup are from the 24-25 range. ppl always freak out when i say it holds 25psi

[run4cover]

I think the 350z can take your s13 in its current state or be a good race. 237whp. 40/45 roll. 350z has a 6speed, but you have a lighter car. This is bench racing at its finest lol.

I don't bench race, I'm talking from experience....I've ran faster cars than a 350z with my S14 auto and beat them(porsche 928 gt, porsche 996 n/a, C5 vette, srt-4, s4 audi). My s14 was heavier than my s13 by probably 200lbs, and not to mention it was an auto with a 3.69 final drive. Both cars have identical mods and run at the same psi. Given: the s14 has a slightly larger turbo, but any extra HP over the s13's T25 was soaked up through the slushbox tranny.

Case and point....you car ran 12.8, but only trap at 104.....sr's with my setup usually trap at 106 or better (my S14 ran 14.2 @ 106mph with a 2.6 sixty foot). Go run one from a any speed roll, you'll probably get your feelings hurt if you think you will walk away.

I would call you out, but mine is down for now.....and it won't be a fair race between us when i put it back together, unless you do more mods

Don't sleep on benwa's gti, he only posted the videos where it looked as if he was getting pulled....he done his fair share of pulling as well.

[bambooi]

I don't bench race, I'm talking from experience....I've ran faster cars than a 350z with my S14 auto and beat them(porsche 928 gt, porsche 996 n/a, C5 vette, srt-4, s4 audi). My s14 was heavier than my s13 by probably 200lbs, and not to mention it was an auto with a 3.69 final drive. Both cars have identical mods and run at the same psi. Given: the s14 has a slightly larger turbo, but any extra HP over the s13's T25 was soaked up through the slushbox tranny.

Case and point....you car ran 12.8, but only trap at 104.....sr's with my setup usually trap at 106 or better (my S14 ran 14.2 @ 106mph with a 2.6 sixty foot). Go run one from a any speed roll, you'll probably get your feelings hurt if you think you will walk away.

I would call you out, but mine is down for now.....and it won't be a fair race between us when i put it back together, unless you do more mods

Don't sleep on benwa's gti, he only posted the videos where it looked as if he was getting pulled....he done his fair share of pulling as well.

Oh I know where I stand. My car is not fast. I also trapped 105, but i put the 104 because it is the quickest. Have you ran at commerce? Otherwise the times can't compare. I saw some swapped sr20s run slow at commerce. Slow E.T. and slow mph ( not that 104/105 is fast- its slow too). Too bad your car isn't together. I'd like to see what you e.t. and trap at commerce.

[run4cover]

Oh I know where I stand. My car is not fast. I also trapped 105, but i put the 104 because it is the quickest. Have you ran at commerce? Otherwise the times can't compare. I saw some swapped sr20s run slow at commerce. Slow E.T. and slow mph ( not that 104/105 is fast- its slow too). Too bad your car isn't together. I'd like to see what you e.t. and trap at commerce.

Nah, I don't have a LSD in the car yet, I wouldn't dare go to any dragstrip without an lsd and slicks/drag radials. I feel you on that, I've seen some pretty Ill swapped 240's as well...probably the result of abused engines.

Actually any street car that can trap better than 100mph is fast in my book....depends on what you compare it to. We can setup a run when I put the s13 back on the road...it isn't going to be alot more hp than it has now....but this other turbo should hold boost all the way to redline, instead of bleeding off (from 15psi to 10psi by redline) like the t25 does now.....should compliment the other mods well.....I hope

you wouldn't happen to be the black wrx I seen at montgomery this past sunday running 12's would you?

[bambooi]

Nah, I don't have a LSD in the car yet, I wouldn't dare go to any dragstrip without an lsd and slicks/drag radials. I feel you on that, I've seen some pretty Ill swapped 240's as well...probably the result of abused engines.

Actually any street car that can trap better than 100mph is fast in my book....depends on what you compare it to. We can setup a run when I put the s13 back on the road...it isn't going to be alot more hp than it has now....but this other turbo should hold boost all the way to redline, instead of bleeding off (from 15psi to 10psi by redline) like the t25 does now.....should compliment the other mods well.....I hope

you wouldn't happen to be the black wrx I seen at montgomery this past sunday running 12's would you?

No, I have a silver wrx. Also I don't live in atlanta. I live about 45 minutes from commerce so I read these forums. The last test and tune for commerce is this friday 11/18/05.
Anyway- more and more people are starting to run 13s with over 100mph so our cars are becoming average not fast anymore. 3 years ago high 12s would be fast for an import maybe. on my part

[Speedm0(\)key]

yeah you see. my STi ran 13.0 @ 108mph with a 1.8 60' with a gay 2nd gear shift at commerce. at any other track i would have trapped 115+... ha.. just kidding, but yeah.. commerce sucks..

350z < 14.2 @100.98 mph 2.3 60'

[run4cover]

yeah you see. my STi ran 13.0 @ 108mph with a 1.8 60' with a gay 2nd gear shift at commerce. at any other track i would have trapped 115+... ha.. just kidding, but yeah.. commerce sucks..

350z < 14.2 @100.98 mph 2.3 60'

:confused: why does commerce suck? I've only been there once. Is it the track prep that sucks or what? I'm just curious, because I'm planning to run there once I get an LSD.

[Speedm0(\)key]

:confused: why does commerce suck? I've only been there once. Is it the track prep that sucks or what? I'm just curious, because I'm planning to run there once I get an LSD.

well.. prepping could be poor..i couldnt get traction for shit in the Z, best 60' i got there ever was a 2.09 which is very good.. couldnt duplicate it (consistent 2.3-2.4's lettin off the throttle more than i wanted).. in that 2.09 run i missed 4th cause.. well im a dumbass and tried to grab it again in anger and grabbed 2nd by mistake.. didnt let off the clutch though.. which was good.. i quickly shifted to 5th and called it off.. ran like 14.6 @ 80-ish or something retarded. also the STi spun all 4... extremely bald tires.

and last.. conditions and elevation i guess.. i dont know.. everyone just runs slower there for some reason.

[EJ25RUN]

last friday at commerce

a burgandy 240 with mustang cobra wheels in the back kept putting down

constant high 12s very low 13s

no clue on his setup.

[Speedm0(\)key]

last friday at commerce

a burgandy 240 with mustang cobra wheels in the back kept putting down

constant high 12s very low 13s

no clue on his setup.

probably similar/slightly superior to Nyteryders if he was running on street tires

[4dmin]

nice vid

[HalfBaked]

I was at montgomery last weekend...

[run4cover]

I was at montgomery last weekend...

well...if you seen the black guy under that big black and tan umbrella, that would have been moi .....we need to hook up, I want to check out that SE-r....your car wouldn't happen to actually be white, would it? Or is that it in your sig?