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    The other thing is the news coming out now that 4 times as many people are enrolling in the free medicaid than the individual insurance in the exchange. Basically, the individuals that go to the exchanges to buy healthcare are supposed to fund the medicaid people.

    But it doesnt work when 4 times as many people want free healthcare vs paid.

    Its Social Security all over again. Here comes the exploding deficits and out of control premiums costs going up.

    Still waiting to see Blank post proof his premiums decreased
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    My disabled mother's doctor told her that he no longer accepts medicaid, that she has to pay cash.


    No worries..... i'll just tell her that medical school enrollment is up.
    I think it's morally reprehensible to deny someone healthcare based on their inability to pay. Especially since there isn't any law on the books anywhere requiring him to. I think it's even more reprehensible to do it under the guise of Obamacare. I'm sorry your grandmothers doctor is playing political games with her health.

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    Still waiting to see Blank post proof his premiums decreased
    It still won't prove anything other than the straw man that everyone's premiums increased is bullshit. That's something I and the rest of educated already know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I think it's morally reprehensible to deny someone healthcare based on their inability to pay. Especially since there isn't any law on the books anywhere requiring him to. I think it's even more reprehensible to do it under the guise of Obamacare. I'm sorry your grandmothers doctor is playing political games with her health.
    Wow. You claim that you understand economics and business, and then make that statement?

    That doctor is not denying her healthcare - he is just stating the way that he must be compensated for his service. There was nothing said that she was unable to pay either - you assumed that all on your own. It is the same for any privately produced product or service in our American society. She can either agree to those terms or go to another doctor who provides those same services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I think it's morally reprehensible to deny someone healthcare based on their inability to pay. Especially since there isn't any law on the books anywhere requiring him to. I think it's even more reprehensible to do it under the guise of Obamacare. I'm sorry your grandmothers doctor is playing political games with her health.
    so in your world Doctors dont set their prices, they work for free. I dont think you understand how medicare works. Doesnt surprise me you seem highly uneducated on basic healthcare system principles.



    It still won't prove anything other than the straw man that everyone's premiums increased is bullshit. That's something I and the rest of educated already know.
    Cant prove what isnt true i suppose.

    Also, never said EVERYONE, said as a whole premiums are rising, thats a true statement. Id love to see your premiums that you claim decreased even though you have the same coverage , deductible, and benefits. Put your money where your mouth is
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I think it's morally reprehensible to deny someone healthcare based on their inability to pay. Especially since there isn't any law on the books anywhere requiring him to. I think it's even more reprehensible to do it under the guise of Obamacare. I'm sorry your grandmothers doctor is playing political games with her health.



    It still won't prove anything other than the straw man that everyone's premiums increased is bullshit. That's something I and the rest of educated already know.
    She wasn't denied care. She just has to pay cash now. Everything was fine before obama "helped".

    You want to live in world where the government can force doctors into slavery to accommodate for those who can't pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You want to live in world where the government can force doctors into slavery to accommodate for those who can't pay?
    Didn't suggest that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Didn't suggest that either.
    So what happens if doctors decide they want nothing to do with Obamacare and start opening cash only hospitals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So what happens if doctors decide they want nothing to do with Obamacare and start opening cash only hospitals?
    LOL he doesnt believe in private industry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So what happens if doctors decide they want nothing to do with Obamacare and start opening cash only hospitals?
    That will simply be deemed "black market" and made illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So what happens if doctors decide they want nothing to do with Obamacare and start opening cash only hospitals?
    At that point it will be cheaper to be on the NHS, so they'll simply be priced out, unless they're catering to wealthier patients who want more personal care or something. I'm sure a market would open up for something like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    LOL he doesnt believe in private industry
    That's a lie. I totally support a free market solution for police, fire, and military.

    Seriously though. I support private industry for things that are controlled by typical market forces. Healthcare isn't one of them though.

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