Dekalb school shooting

[Sinfix_15]

Yeah but I also don't think "He doesn't seem crazy" is the best criteria for making that judgement. McVeigh wasn't insane because he stated the reason for his killing was political. He bombed a federal building in retaliation for the federal handling of Waco and Ruby Ridge. So while his thought process is despicable it is clearly rational.

I agree with you on the statement about not believing in evil and i think you answered the question of "what is the definition of evil" in this post. Evil is just a way to explain the unexplainable. If we dont understand why someone did something, we call it evil. If a man came home to find his cheating wife and stabbed her 50 times, we would call it murder, not evil. If a man just randomly decided to stab a woman 50 times, we would call it evil, because we dont understand the causation of that action.

[Vteckidd]

To mcveigh it was rational , to us its not.

fuck, im creeping myself out now

[bu villain]

Evil is just a way to explain the unexplainable.

Doesn't that also apply to a lot of mental illness though? We can't explain why this person acts in an unexplainable way so we call them crazy.

[bu villain]

you see the conundrum though.

You said anyone who kills is insane, but then we both agree that Mcviegh wasnt, in the eyes of the law, insane

#WHOA

No I didn't say anyone who kills is insane. I said anyone who kills with no logical reason is insane. That's a very important distinction.

To mcveigh it was rational , to us its not.

fuck, im creeping myself out now

No it is completely logical to me. An entity (in this case the federal government) did something he believed was wrong and in return he bombed a building belonging to that entity. That's logical. Terrible, but logical.

[Sinfix_15]

Doesn't that also apply to a lot of mental illness though? We can't explain why this person acts in an unexplainable way so we call them crazy.

I personally view evil as a religious term. "mental illness" would be the scientific explanation for "evil". I dont think understanding mental illness will ever lead to preventing tragedies, at least not in a manner in which people would be willing to accept. Life is hard, some people are more or less equip to deal with various obstacles in life, but i dont think there's a reasonably accurate way to predict when someone is going to go crazy. The threshold for what makes a person snap is all over the map and i feel every single person on the planet has at least *some* potential to snap. Safety and freedom are on opposite sides of the scale, i dont believe there's a way to have both.

[bu villain]

I agree with all that except the last statement. Sure absolute safety is not possible but not everything that increases safety decreases freedom and vice versa.