Drug testing and entitlements.

[BanginJimmy]

So if a guy with a family that has a low paying job that smokes a joint once in a while with his friends, should be kicked off welfare, and that's a cop out?

So you think I should be responsible for the guys family so he doesnt have to be? Maybe he should find something more more constructive to do with his time. Maybe even get some additional schooling or training so he could actually support himself without govt handouts.

Why single out weed when alcohol and cigarettes are demonstrably more dangerous and more addictive and demonstrably affects job performance more adversely?

Simple, legality. You get a bill into congress to ban cigs and alcohol and I will support it.

Ask yourself what the ultimate goal of drug testing welfare recipients is, half of the time you'll get "to save taxpayer money". It has been real world tested to be more expensive to tax payers than not. It's that simple. The other half of the time you'll get "if I have to get drug tested to get a job, welfare recipients should too" which in it self isn't an argument at all.

Or many its about simple responsibility. If you are doing something you KNOW will inhibit your chances to support yourself, then you arent trying to support yourself. Welfare is supposed to be a temporary thing while you get back on your feet. Its not meant to be a lifestyle.

Basically it boils down to you want it just so it makes you feel better, regardless of the costs involved, regardless of the freedoms it imposes on.

Kinda sounds like the TSA

What freedoms does it impose on? Drug tests for handouts are no more an imposition than a background check or a test to get your drivers licesnse.

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So you think I should be responsible for the guys family so he doesnt have to be?

And if you spend more in taxes than you're saving, you're even MORE responsible! LOL.