Obamacare Upheld

[KevinT707]

Wise words sir, and I completely agree. PREVENTATIVE care is the keyword, and since this is a car forum lets put this in analogous terms. Do you change your engine/trans/diff. fluids at the recommended intervals, or do you wait for damage to happen? Do you get new tires before they are worn, or wait to hydroplane into a wall?

I would gladly pay a bit extra and know that people aren't dying from cancer because they found out when it's too late. This is a form of preventive care. But again, 99% of business owners are against this because it is hurting their pockets. This is why the world is the way it is. Noone cares about anyone anymore.
Notice how most the billion dollar companies pay minimum wage. How do the rich get rich? exploiting the poor. It is VERY hard for a person to get rich doing the right thing. It all works together.

[BanginJimmy]

I would gladly pay a bit extra and know that people aren't dying from cancer because they found out when it's too late. This is a form of preventive care. But again, 99% of business owners are against this because it is hurting their pockets. This is why the world is the way it is. Noone cares about anyone anymore.

That is you, why should I pay more for things I am not able to take any advantage of? The purpose of a business is to make a profit so of course they are against ANY new costs that hurt their bottom line. It isnt about caring for anyone, its about expecting people to take care of themselves. Why do I need to take care of someone when they are doing absolutely nothing to take care of themselves? Why should I pay more for my coverage cause some fat ass smoker gets cancer?

Notice how most the billion dollar companies pay minimum wage. How do the rich get rich? exploiting the poor. It is VERY hard for a person to get rich doing the right thing. It all works together.

Name 1 single fortune 500 company that only pays minimum wage. I mean really, you have to be a complete knuckle dragging idiot to believe this. I understand you hate and are jealous of the rich. People who consistently make poor choices in life usually are. The vast majority of those rich people are rich is because they work harder than you are they work smarter than you.

I was watching undercover boss and I can't remember the last time I got that angry. The owner went for a week undercover doing what his employees do and by NO MEANS he could do what they did. Not even in double the time. These people are being worked in paces where only robots would be able to do it effectively. Even though he couldn't do ANYTHING, not even in double the time as his employees, he didn't do anything to change it. He just congratulated them, (In other words, "thanks for making me money bitches") and didn't change a thing. Why? because he could care less about his employees, all he cares about is them making him money.

So just because someone who has no training or experience doing a particular job means he doesnt pay well enough? You just keep topping yourself. I seriously doubt the CEO of the company I work for could do my job at my speed with only a week to learn it. I had a decade of experience doing this type of work before I started this job and I am FAR faster doing it than I was in the first week.

Sadly, this is the way it is in 99% of the cases. Most business owners disgust me.
I've only met one business owner, in my entire life, who I actually looked up to.

I would imagine that in 99% of cases a small business owner can do any job in the place. When you get into medium and large businesses, the owner/CEO has far more important things to do than the grunt work.

I seriously doubt you have met many successful business owners. By your definitions of a business owner, they paid too much and didnt profit enough.

You hit the nail on the head, but why stop there? We need private sector law enforcement, military, and fire departments as well. We can't continue to trust the government with our safety! And why are we still letting Uncle Sam regulate what goes in our mouths with their ridiculous FDA? And what about the Department of Education? If I want my childs school to teach my children that the earth was made 6000 years ago and dinosaurs existed with humans, then god damnit, thats what they're gonna teach! When are we gonna learn, we gotta let the private sector handle ALL of this since the government sucks at running things, period. And dont let the damn libruls tell you any different!

Another tired argument that you and a couple others use. Police, fire, and military are a service provided by the govt and paid for through taxes. They are overpriced and inefficient. Then you go into the crazy crap that only proves you dont have a real argument. You do bring up the dept of ed though. What does the dept do that justifies the cost? Over 100B a year for nothing. The states didnt teach that before the dept of ed, and they wont if its gone again.

Wise words sir, and I completely agree. PREVENTATIVE care is the keyword, and since this is a car forum lets put this in analogous terms. Do you change your engine/trans/diff. fluids at the recommended intervals, or do you wait for damage to happen? Do you get new tires before they are worn, or wait to hydroplane into a wall?

Yea, lets use cars as an example. Does you car insurance pay for fluid changes and new tires? No, they dont. Preventive maintenance is your responsibility. Costs would go down drasticly if health insurance would use the same model. Insurance to cover unexpected problems, not day to day maintenance.