Obamacare Upheld

[Browning151]

IF the individual mandate simply required everyone to have insurance from a private company, then you might see competition for cheaper plans. But , it basically says "if you cant afford it, you can buy it from the govt aka medicade" .

or you pay a 2.5% of income fine.

I just went to the doctor as ive been sick last 3 days. I have insurance but its not very good so usually colds and stuff i just go to CVC minute Clinics. Well i walked in an had strep throat, $116 dollars later i had antibiotics and walked out the door.

To be honest, id rather pay the $116 and be done than make an appt at my Dr office because i have to wait, make an appt, they always are late, then i have to see his Nurse, then the mid nurse, then i finally see the DR, etc.

Minute Clinic im in and out , so much more efficient. I dont go to the dr unless its something really really bad like I fractured my tibia (8 weeks ago :P)

So, get insurance that covers MAJOR problems like broken bones, sprains, tendon tears, surgery, etc. Any small things just pay cash and go to the Minute clinics.

Considering i paid $116 to go to the Dr. ONCE in the last 3 years for a cold vs paying $150 a month for the same insurance coverage................

Wait a minute, you mean you were able to get your healthcare needs taken care of without going broke or making someone else pay for it? All you had to do is a little planning and use some common sense and you could do that? You must be one of those whiney rich republicans or something.

[Vteckidd]

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[BanginJimmy]

You might as well not have anything. They suck, and cover little to nothing.

You really are an idiot if you believe this. I know several people that purchase their own insurance and it has great coverage. I have family in the medical insurance business and they are expecting to roll out a massive rate increase next year.

It's like the elderly that use to bitch about SS. They would say Social Security would drive the country down,... DON"T DO IT! BLAH BLAH BLAH. Now that they are retired, go to their home and take the check away and let's see how they feel about it.

The people saying this were right. SS IS hurting the country because 4 generations of citizens ignored their retirement and just rely on SS to take care of them. The best possible thing we could do for SS is to transition to a privatized system and eventually phase it out. Look at Galveston Texas' system for a freat example. They opted out of SS when it was possible and set up a privatized system. Those people on the privatized system paid in less and get more out of it.

The ones bitching about it are the rich republicans who already have insurance, and the pseudo-republican-conservatives who vote party line no matter what, even when it hurts them because "'Murica fuck yea damn liberals". Anyone who does have half a brain won't give a shit because it will benefit them or it won't.

Typical banter from the clueless. The people with more than half a brain hate this because they see the obvious. Higher costs, lower quality, and in the end, single payer.

Heres a simple question for you. Say you have minimum coverage on your car. If the state starts coming down and mandating everyone carry collision coverage also, do you think your rates are going to come down? Next, they mandate that everyone who applies for insurance, no matter their driving record, must be approved. Will this also lower your insurance costs? This is exactly what Obamacare is.

In countries with socialized healthcare, everyone raves about it and talks about how much America's healthcare system sucks, which it does. No one complains about wait times or quality of care because it's a non issue. Everyone gets the same quality of care, rich or poor. "Oh I dont wanna pay for someone else's grandmas healthcare because wah wah wah". Get over yourself or move to another country. I would gladly pay extra taxes so that myself and all my friends and family get healthcare.

Really? 100% of the people in socialized countries love the healthcare? They enjoy waiting months for procedures you could have done the same day here?

I'm sure the people relying on a new hip are absolutely thrilled with the NHS.
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Go buy your own damn health insurance then! Lol. People already aren't buying health insurance cause they don't have to, then getting saddled with ridiculous medical debt, then saying "fuck it, not paying it" because its prohibitive. What do you really think is causing health care costs to go up?

I would make medicals bill principles unaffected by bankruptcy because you are right, people dont bother with health insurance because they are guaranteed care. Then again, this bill does nothing to change that. For the vast majority of people who fall into this category, they will simply do as I am going to do. Pay the tax every year and if I need an expensive procedure, purchase insurance then.