The 'unfathomable' arrest of a black scholar

[AirMax95]

I have to give up on this thread. We have Tony, Total Blender and Airmax that will not see the black man at fault no matter what the situation is. I mean really guys, how much crystal clear evidence do you need to figure this out? Gates over-reacted and pulled the race card, Crowley was a complete professional throughout. There is NO other explanation to be had when you look at the evidence.

I keep hearing about how racism is alive and well in this country, we have whites still being blamed for something that happened in our grand and great grandparents days at the very latest and even that was only in the south. For the rest of the country it ended more than 150 years ago.

Its time to quit being alarmist, and realize that while racism does exist, not everyone is a racist just because they happen to be white. The Jackson and Sharpton, and now Gates crowd are making claims of racism a complete joke. The last 2 major cases of "racism" both happened to be complete BS. If you really want race relations to improve, look inward just as much as you look outward. Keep the idiots like Jackson, Sharpton, and Gates out of the news. Keep hateful people like Rev. Wright off the pulpit. Most important, speak out AGAINST people that make BS claims of racism.

No need to give up. You have clearly skipped several of my post. I said, and Tony also I believe, this incident was not racially motivated by the officer, and also that Gates was out of line.

With that said, you feel racism end more than 150 years ago is so far off the mark it would take me the better part of my work day to correct. Abe Lincoln signing a document did wonders on paper, and you know what the kick back was.....lynching and continued slavery. Remember the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.....you get my point. A piece of paper means jack shit when the majority can have their way. No one feels every act by a white person is racial. The "whites" that are blamed occurs due to the fact that MANY WHITES STILL PRACTICE the mentality of the "old south". Dude, I can't stress it enough, until you walk in a black, caramel, or mocha Americans shoes, you will never understand. Your friends can express to you what occurs, but you can relate to the frustration 100%. A simple counter to my arguement would be "You didn't live in those times", but I studied the history and was hit hard on a personal level.

i lost my job because i was called a cracker in a corporate enviroment, who do i complain to and who do i suue because i bet if i used a racial slur back i would have been reamed and mr sharpton would be outside my house with a loudspeaker. seriously guys i was racially descriminated against at a company with 85% black employees and was picked on from the day i started but when i was called a cracker i was offended, my black supervisor heard him say it and guess who got in trouble and lost their job. . .me. my mother works for the gov't, a fellow employee was caught stealing yet she is not fired because she will sue becuase she is black, her boss even said so so please explain this fellas. it makes no damn sense.

That should not have occured and I'm sorry you had to encounter that type of treatment. Not to point blame, but I am prettty sure in your orientation there was a piece that covers the process of handling this situation. If your supervisor did not correct it, then on to his boss. No help there, on the the corporate level. Still doesnt work, call a lawyer. In regards to the lady stealing and threatening to sue, sounds like there was no sufficient evidence, else the gov't would have thrown the book at her.

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No need to give up. You have clearly skipped several of my post. I said, and Tony also I believe, this incident was not racially motivated by the officer, and also that Gates was out of line.

With that said, you feel racism end more than 150 years ago is so far off the mark it would take me the better part of my work day to correct. Abe Lincoln signing a document did wonders on paper, and you know what the kick back was.....lynching and continued slavery. Remember the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s.....you get my point. A piece of paper means jack shit when the majority can have their way. No one feels every act by a white person is racial. The "whites" that are blamed occurs due to the fact that MANY WHITES STILL PRACTICE the mentality of the "old south". Dude, I can't stress it enough, until you walk in a black, caramel, or mocha Americans shoes, you will never understand. Your friends can express to you what occurs, but you can relate to the frustration 100%. A simple counter to my arguement would be "You didn't live in those times", but I studied the history and was hit hard on a personal level.



That should not have occured and I'm sorry you had to encounter that type of treatment. Not to point blame, but I am prettty sure in your orientation there was a piece that covers the process of handling this situation. If your supervisor did not correct it, then on to his boss. No help there, on the the corporate level. Still doesnt work, call a lawyer. In regards to the lady stealing and threatening to sue, sounds like there was no sufficient evidence, else the gov't would have thrown the book at her.

you are correct it should not have occured but it did. i followed the chain of command up and nothing was done. i called corporate and after that was when i was in trouble. the sad part is my complaint was used against me after going to corporate and i really wanted to punch a few people in the face that day because that sorry piece of crap needed that smirk off his face, including my supervisor. i have the time documented and it was a call center so everything said in the floor was recorded whether on the phone or not so it was heard because it was yelled across the aisle. even the girl who sat next to me looked at me like "i hope he did not hear that." there were also several other things that i have documented that happened that was not right. i have a pinched nerve in my neck and had to leave one day because i was throwing up i was hurting so bad. well i was told to go to the ER or get written up. i went to the ER and the next morning i had a write up to sign for it. two weeks later one of the 8 not so nice people up there who was a black lady mysteriously lost her voice and was able to be absent from work for 4 days with no Dr's note, nothing, and also had no previous history of a health condition. another thing that bugged me was the breaks in the evenings. if i were gone more than 15 minutes i had a search party looking for me where as these two girls averaged a 25 minute break every night. tis was also complained on with that incident and we had to sign a log book, well thats all the manager went off of(he was white). well a manager from another department said he could easily look at the log in and log out times on the dailer system and their computer but this was not done. i have not found an attorney that will take the case even though the manager who gave me the info is willing to come forward but i would love for something to be dome.

out of the 100 people in my office i liked all but 7 of them and they were the ones who always picked on me about being "the white boy from the suburbs" etc. a couple of folks went to bat for me with the write up to the hospital because they were in the bathroom when i was puking and noticed it wasnt from a hangover, 3:30 in the afternoon and i should not have that problem. i would like to bust that companies ass for it and the guy who made the comment to be unemployed for sure.

the point im making here is it happens on both sides of the fence and to all races but you really don't hear about cases like mine on the news because no matter how hard i tried to get any attention on this people looked the other way. take the hate crime bill for instance, i used to collect bad debt for a personal finance company. this black lady blocked me in the driveway and called me every bad name you could think of and almost threw a punch at me. if she would have it would have been a minimum sentence, no hate crime, etc. but if i got out of the car and said the magic word and backhanded her i would b in jail for 25 years for a hate crime. do you guys get what i'm saying here, its bassackwards on some shit.

also those 7 that gave me crap loved me when they had car trouble, even when my supervisors battery went dead in his lexus.