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    i think that America is so over-kill with the whole defense budget by a huge huge HUGE margin. We spend more on defense than the other top 10 countries on the list do COMBINED.

    But then you will probably say "But we need all that money to sustain our oversea bases and ever increasing technilogical weaponry."

    I say to that:
    We dont need a vast number of our oversea bases and every year millions and millions of dollars goes into weapon research where most likley 80% of those designs get tossed even though millions and millions of tax payer money was already spent on it. Down the drain for nothing. Most of the designs seem pretty stupid and useless. Change our super aggressive hegemonic foreign policy to allow us to downsize military spending to allow us to use the difference in the defense budget on better programs more suited to help the people actually paying for it. Like healthcare and education and community development. Nothing more comes out of your pocket and maybe even a little less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spektrewing386
    i think that America is so over-kill with the whole defense budget by a huge huge HUGE margin. We spend more on defense than the other top 10 countries on the list do COMBINED.

    But then you will probably say "But we need all that money to sustain our oversea bases and ever increasing technilogical weaponry."

    I say to that:
    We dont need a vast number of our oversea bases and every year millions and millions of dollars goes into weapon research where most likley 80% of those designs get tossed even though millions and millions of tax payer money was already spent on it. Down the drain for nothing. Most of the designs seem pretty stupid and useless. Change our super aggressive hegemonic foreign policy to allow us to downsize military spending to allow us to use the difference in the defense budget on better programs more suited to help the people actually paying for it. Like healthcare and education and community development. Nothing more comes out of your pocket and maybe even a little less.
    So instead of being militarily superior, we should downgrade to be equal with everyone else. I guess that we should drasticly reduce what we spend to pay our military personell because just their paychecks total moe than 125B yearly. That doesnt even inclue the money spent on medical and dental care, basic equipment and housing for single members. Just a rough guess, but I think those 4 things would add another 125B to our military budget. The add in the cost to repair and replace damaged equipment and you can add another 100B if not more.


    Only about 15% of our military budget actually goes to purchasing new weapons systems. Maybe another 15% total goes towards R&D to make sure that we stay the most technologicly advanced military in the world. That alone is a line of defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    So instead of being militarily superior, we should downgrade to be equal with everyone else. I guess that we should drasticly reduce what we spend to pay our military personell because just their paychecks total moe than 125B yearly. That doesnt even inclue the money spent on medical and dental care, basic equipment and housing for single members. Just a rough guess, but I think those 4 things would add another 125B to our military budget. The add in the cost to repair and replace damaged equipment and you can add another 100B if not more.


    Only about 15% of our military budget actually goes to purchasing new weapons systems. Maybe another 15% total goes towards R&D to make sure that we stay the most technologicly advanced military in the world. That alone is a line of defense.
    How hard is it to understand that we are the biggest bulliest on the block by far. Even if we weren't at war we'd still have enough arms to take over the world. Our national security is not dependent upon nation building, nor our forceful foreign influence. We are still not much more secure than were in 2001. Make no mistake about it, we have not captured Bin Laden, and we might not. You cannot go to war with an ideology. How fucking hard is that to understand? We can't even effectively track these people down. And we're supposed to believe that your ridiculous idea of national security (see: Imperialism) is more important than providing our own citizens with affordable health care, and education. I think not, and anyone who continues to propagate that pathetic idea, stands in the way of the advancement of American society.

    And quit trying to make it sound like we've got something against the men and women who serve this coutnry. You realize nearly half of the people fighting on our side in Iraq are contractors? Do you know what a contractor makes in comparison to a normal soldier? I highly doubt it, judging by the way you talk on the subject, that would just more information your conservative belief system would have you willfully ignore. But in case you give a shit, the average soldier makes around 30-40k a year, where as someone working for a company like Blackwater makes about that much a month. So if you want to talk to someone about not giving a shit about the troops, talk to scumbags who've been running the show the last eight years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    So instead of being militarily superior, we should downgrade to be equal with everyone else. I guess that we should drasticly reduce what we spend to pay our military personell because just their paychecks total moe than 125B yearly. That doesnt even inclue the money spent on medical and dental care, basic equipment and housing for single members. Just a rough guess, but I think those 4 things would add another 125B to our military budget. The add in the cost to repair and replace damaged equipment and you can add another 100B if not more.
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    Don't forget that any military that lives there state they are register in wether it be overseas in Iraq or in Hawaii. They get an extra 1k a week spending money not cut into there paycheck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridged
    Don't forget that any military that lives there state they are register in wether it be overseas in Iraq or in Hawaii. They get an extra 1k a week spending money not cut into there paycheck.

    HUH? I know I have alot of misspellings, but this is even out of my league. I have never been anywhere that I got an extra 4k a month just for living there and that even includes being overseas.

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