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    Best scorer. he doesnt really have to pass because his guys can create their own shots and he has TD.

    I mean lets face it what the Spurs play is pick and roll and pick and pop basketball. Otherwise TP penetrates and either A) Shoots B) kicks the ball to shooters spotted up in the corners.

    Im not so sure hes the best all around PG id still have to put CP3 above him. Rest of the NBA Agrees. CP3 got twice the votes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Best scorer. he doesnt really have to pass because his guys can create their own shots and he has TD.

    I mean lets face it what the Spurs play is pick and roll and pick and pop basketball. Otherwise TP penetrates and either A) Shoots B) kicks the ball to shooters spotted up in the corners.

    Im not so sure hes the best all around PG id still have to put CP3 above him. Rest of the NBA Agrees. CP3 got twice the votes

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    Who on the Spurs can create their own shot other than Manu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Who on the Spurs can create their own shot other than Manu?
    It's not about creating their "own shot" per say. The fact that duncan is a legendary mid range shooter leaves defenses terrified. Danny green, k. leonard, g.neal, manu, etc are GREAT shooters who consistently keep defenses honest. Imagine tony parker trying to run a pick and pop with blake griffin, lmao double team city! then he becomes 100x less effective, and imagine the APG drop.

    tony is great. but something has to be said for playing with the best coach in nba history, best PF in nba history, and the best 6th man in nba history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    It's not about creating their "own shot" per say. The fact that duncan is a legendary mid range shooter leaves defenses terrified. Danny green, k. leonard, g.neal, manu, etc are GREAT shooters who consistently keep defenses honest. Imagine tony parker trying to run a pick and pop with blake griffin, lmao double team city! then he becomes 100x less effective, and imagine the APG drop.

    tony is great. but something has to be said for playing with the best coach in nba history, best PF in nba history, and the best 6th man in nba history.
    Agree to disagree......

    I'll take Parker over any PG in the NBA without thinking twice about it.

    My "all nba" team would be Tony Parker, DWade, Durant, Duncan, Hibbert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Agree to disagree......

    I'll take Parker over any PG in the NBA without thinking twice about it.

    My "all nba" team would be Tony Parker, DWade, Durant, Duncan, Hibbert
    If i'm starting a team from scratch i wouldn't. If I knew I had the best PF to ever play the game and they would play together over 10 years, then yes I would take parker. And if i knew the team would have the best coach and coaching staff in the NBA, yes i would choose parker then.

    If i had no clue who the other players on the team would be, I would choose paul because i KNOW he's gonna do the best with that team that can virtually be done. whether its scoring, assisting, or being a great on ball defender when healthy. but honestly, when it comes to all the top 5 PG's, just choose one and you won't go wrong. and no deron williams isnt in the top 5, lol.... cause you can DEFINITELY go wrong with his over paid azz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    If i'm starting a team from scratch i wouldn't. If I knew I had the best PF to ever play the game and they would play together over 10 years, then yes I would take parker. And if i knew the team would have the best coach and coaching staff in the NBA, yes i would choose parker then.

    If i had no clue who the other players on the team would be, I would choose paul because i KNOW he's gonna do the best with that team that can virtually be done. whether its scoring, assisting, or being a great on ball defender when healthy. but honestly, when it comes to all the top 5 PG's, just choose one and you won't go wrong. and no deron williams isnt in the top 5, lol.... cause you can DEFINITELY go wrong with his over paid azz.
    I just feel that offense from a PG is more valuable than defense from a PG. Paul is a great passer, great defender.... but a PG with the offensive prowess of a Tony Parker.... or Derrick Rose..... i think makes people lose more sleep than worrying about Chris Paul as a defender. As talented as Paul is, to me.... he just doesnt have "it". He's not the stone cold killer that Parker is. He cant put the team on his shoulders and carry them to victory. I know PG purest will loathe this statement, since assist is the "PG stat"... but ultimately, scoring will always carry more weight than passing to someone scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I just feel that offense from a PG is more valuable than defense from a PG. Paul is a great passer, great defender.... but a PG with the offensive prowess of a Tony Parker.... or Derrick Rose..... i think makes people lose more sleep than worrying about Chris Paul as a defender. As talented as Paul is, to me.... he just doesnt have "it". He's not the stone cold killer that Parker is. He cant put the team on his shoulders and carry them to victory. I know PG purest will loathe this statement, since assist is the "PG stat"... but ultimately, scoring will always carry more weight than passing to someone scores.
    I feel like you are living 100% in the present, and completely ignore the obvious talent difference of their teams throughout their entire careers. Paul is NOT just a defender....

    CP3 career PPG Average-------18.6PPG
    CP3 career PLAYOFF Average -20.9PPG and 9.5 APG

    TP9 career PPG Average ------17.1PPG
    TP9 career PLAYOFF Average -19.2PPG and 5.3 APG

    I love tony parker just as much as the next one, but its hard to ignore who he has played with and for VS who paul has played with and for. I mean come on, the 2nd best player on the clippers is Blake griffin. The spurs have 3 people better then him. And don't let me go back to those terrible N.O. teams..... they had a team one year, but against the dynasty spurs it was no contest in the end.

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