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    The problem with OKC is they are a jump shooting team. They have zero low post game. Perkins couldnt hit the broad side of a barn, Ibaka isnt consistent. They can rebound, they can play defense, but they cant score in the low post. Parker is going to be all over Westbrook. Durant will probably see 3-4 defenders, they dont have an answer for Duncan, and even if they did, Spurs have 2-3 guys taht are lights out from 3 point range.

    Where the lakers couldnt capitalize, Spurs will be able to.

    The ONLY TEAM left that really has a shot at beating the spurs IMO is Boston or Miami with Bosh. Miami without Bosh Spurs in 5. They are even thinner than OKC.

    Boston has big bodies, athletic, and the big 3 is still kicking.
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    Indiana isnt DONE, they are coming out strong in Game 6 especially if they want to keep their jobs. Larry Legend scorched them after the game last night calling them "SOFT". Miami is without Haslem (hes going to be suspended when they upgrade it to Flagrant 2), and probably without that Pittman guy who laid an elbow out in the last seconds against Stephenson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    The problem with OKC is they are a jump shooting team. They have zero low post game. Perkins couldnt hit the broad side of a barn, Ibaka isnt consistent. They can rebound, they can play defense, but they cant score in the low post. Parker is going to be all over Westbrook. Durant will probably see 3-4 defenders, they dont have an answer for Duncan, and even if they did, Spurs have 2-3 guys taht are lights out from 3 point range.

    Where the lakers couldnt capitalize, Spurs will be able to.

    The ONLY TEAM left that really has a shot at beating the spurs IMO is Boston or Miami with Bosh. Miami without Bosh Spurs in 5. They are even thinner than OKC.

    Boston has big bodies, athletic, and the big 3 is still kicking.
    1. With all due respect to you mr. kidd ...... boston has a 0% chance to beat the spurs. they are superior to boston on EVERY level. I give boston a 5% chance to win ONE game against the spurs. But there also is a 99% chance that we WONT be seeing them play each other anyway. And boston has a new big 3 in rondo, pierce and garnett..... but pierce and allen are obviously hurt and limping.

    2. I do agree with you on the fact that the spurs will beat miami without bosh, i dont agree on the amount of games though. I think it would be 6 or 7 games, based on miami's play on their home court and their nba best shooting guard/small forward defensive play and rim defensive ability.

    3. This is the new NBA, post game is not necessary anymore. Those days are done. Look at what the lakers "post game" done to okc's interior defense. Ibaka is VERY consistent!!!!! If you give him his mid range jump shot, its money. Not like bosh, but effective. I don't think duncan will be the problem. Perkins plays good defense and ibaka on the weakside is deadly. I dont think that is the key though, I think boris diaw or duncan will bring ibaka to the perimeter, which will give parker and manu easy lanes to the rim, and when they help out on defense, they will swing it to the shooters. I think that is the key! IMO

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    Indiana isnt DONE, they are coming out strong in Game 6 especially if they want to keep their jobs. Larry Legend scorched them after the game last night calling them "SOFT". Miami is without Haslem (hes going to be suspended when they upgrade it to Flagrant 2), and probably without that Pittman guy who laid an elbow out in the last seconds against Stephenson
    * No way Haslem gets suspended and tyler h. not get suspended. NOT going to happen. Pittman on the other hand is definitely gonna be suspended, but he doesnt matter anyway. And he "took" one for the team, I assure you lance "3rd string" stenvenson wont be making any choking signs anymore. So very well done IMO.

    Indiana is without a doubt 100% done. If they were going to win again in miami it was going to be game 5. No way wayde, lebron and co. let them come to their arena and win game 7. But on the other hand, I'm soooooo tired of people making it seem as if indiana is some kind of juggernaut physical team. They are a PRETEND physical team, they want it to appear that they are more physical. Battier LOCKING down david west, and a few ppl LOCKING down hibbert. They are "too big" and "too strong" to let miami out play them on the boards, and they sure enough got out muscled...... I dont know who you are saying will "lose" their jobs if they lose. Their team is pretty much set, they just have no answer for miami's defense. I'm pretty sure they arent going past game 6, BUT if they do..... im 100% sure they can't come up big in game 7 against miami. Wishful thinking on your part IMO. And probably no granger btw.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    I wouldn't go that far......
    I would. They've proven, on multiple occasions, that their drive to win it all is just hype. And just like you said, there's no telling what those three characters will do? There's also no telling what they won't do.

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    Haslem suspended, Pittman suspended, hansbourgh not suspended.

    You were saying :p

    Boston has more firepower than Miami right now. Bass, Bradley, Pierce, Rondo, garnett, Allen, they have BIG doofuses like steamsya or whatever. They can match up really well against them without bosh. The only problem with Boston is transition points and defense. They can't outrun Miami, and can't afford to turn over like Rondo can do.

    I think you don't give enough teams credit or forget how Miami can go from being absolutely flawless to scrubs in 1 game.

    Without Pittman, haslem, bosh for game 6, Miami could be looking at a game 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    They've proven, on multiple occasions, that their drive to win it all is just hype.
    How can they prove on multiple occasions, this team has been together ONE year. They made it to the nba finals in their FIRST year, hardly a failure. BTW they crushed the other eastern conference teams last year. celtics with 4+ hall of fame players, and including chicago with the nba's "mvp" in rose last year.

    I do agree though, its gonna be very tough to beat the spurs in the nba finals. Miami's defense is why i think that series will go 7 games. I dont see OKC beating miami though, but we wont have to worry about them anyway. Spurs will be sending them home in 5 games.....

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    Edit: more firepower is probably wrong, they have more reliable offensive weapons. That's what I meant.

    Obviously LBJ and WADE are the most firepower a team could have Haha
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    Its Miamis series to lose, I can see Indiana pushing it to game 7. They shot horrible last night. Miami is easily beatable they do not look very good to me.

    The only teams who look GOOD is OKC and SA. Miami looks like they are not mentally tough to win a close game. They look comfortable with 15-20 point leads. But they won't have those against Boston or okc/sa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Haslem suspended, Pittman suspended, hansbourgh not suspended.

    You were saying :p

    Boston has more firepower than Miami right now. Bass, Bradley, Pierce, Rondo, garnett, Allen, they have BIG doofuses like steamsya or whatever. They can match up really well against them without bosh. The only problem with Boston is transition points and defense. They can't outrun Miami, and can't afford to turn over like Rondo can do.

    I think you don't give enough teams credit or forget how Miami can go from being absolutely flawless to scrubs in 1 game.

    Without Pittman, haslem, bosh for game 6, Miami could be looking at a game 7.
    I just saw that as well, the series is 10000% over now. I'm sure miami will consider that a "racial" suspension. NO way Tyler Hansbrough shouldn't be suspended. His foul was equally dirty as haslem's foul that cut wade's head. That will be their motivation!! This series is over......

    I give boston a lot of credit. Garnett is playing GREAT! Rondo can be defended by wade if they choose. Pierce will be shut down by lebron (all nba first team defense just named) even if he wasnt hurt, but he is definitely hurt some. And miami has home court over them. I really doubt boston can win 2 games....

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    Racial?? Watch the replay.

    Hansbourough got all ball but swung down, but he made a play on the ball .

    Haslem didn't even go for the ball he axe slammed his hands down in hansbouroughs head.

    NBA made the right call. Haslem was retaliation and wasn't even a play on the ball. Wade bled because shit happens, it wasn't intentional
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    They shot horrible last night. Miami is easily beatable they do not look very good to me.
    Easily beatable by who? They shot horrible because of the defense miami put on them. They weren't missing wide open shots, they were locked up. Granger hit his wide open shots before he left, but dont forget he's prob not gonna play either. And if he does, how bad is his ankle really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    The only teams who look GOOD is OKC and SA. Miami looks like they are not mentally tough to win a close game. They look comfortable with 15-20 point leads. But they won't have those against Boston or okc/sa
    I think they could pull away from boston a few games, and POSSIBLY OKC just because they are a jump shooting team as you said. But DEFINITELY not against SA, even if they do get up. SA can/will fight back......

    who you got tonight vteckidd??

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    Also Wade was attempting a layup, hansborough was shooting a 10 foot jump shot, NO REASON for haslem to hard foul Tyler that far out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Racial?? Watch the replay.
    Miami players will take it that way and use it as motivation. Trust me, two black players suspended and white boy gets nothing for slamming against wade's head..... they will be very upset when the game starts. Watch and see.

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    You can't say Miami looks unbeatable. Spurs look unbeatable. OKC looks unbeatable.

    Miami looks like you hard foul them And taunt them they can barely squeal by. This series COULD be 3-1 Indiana easily going into game 5. I don't know if lebron can pull off a 4-6 point deficit with 2 minutes to go and not fold and hit his jump shots.

    Miami has had trouble closing games all year.

    Boston wins tonight, they are tired of stringing this team along, they need to win and rest and give Miami pressure to close out their series.

    Boston by 9 tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Also Wade was attempting a layup, hansborough was shooting a 10 foot jump shot, NO REASON for haslem to hard foul Tyler that far out
    when you block a shot you dont swing down, you swing parallel to the ground. he meant to do it man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    Miami players will take it that way and use it as motivation. Trust me, two black players suspended and white boy gets nothing for slamming against wade's head..... they will be very upset when the game starts. Watch and see.
    Its gonna be physical no matter what. You see what Granger said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    when you block a shot you dont swing down, you swing parallel to the ground. he meant to do it man.
    It was flagrant for sure but hard fouls with a play on the ball in the lane are different than retaliation fouls like haslem and Pittman did.

    Obviously NBA agrees with me :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Its gonna be physical no matter what. You see what Granger said?
    No I haven't.... what he say? Granger is one of the reasons they are down 3-2.... you dont taunt the best player in world, and the 1st/2nd best shooting guard in the world.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    How can they prove on multiple occasions, this team has been together ONE year.
    That makes it even worse. Only been together one year, talking all this "dream team" crap and still struggle to win. Yeah, it's cool (I guess) that they took it to the finals last year, but they should have probably won it. But they couldn't do it. They couldn't finish games. Why? Like I said, just don't have that drive. They're displaying having a tough time of it here in this year's playoffs against the Pacers. I think they can make it to the finals again this year, but they won't win. The West in 6. Whoever represents the East. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    It was flagrant for sure but hard fouls with a play on the ball in the lane are different than retaliation fouls like haslem and Pittman did.

    Obviously NBA agrees with me :p
    You do know that his fould was upgraded to a flg. 2 as well right???

    Both Pittman and Haslem had their Flagrant Foul Ones upgraded to Flagrant Foul Twos, as did Indiana's Hansbrough, who struck the head of Miami's Dwyane Wade on a foul that occurred shortly before Haslem's foul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ View Post
    That makes it even worse. Only been together one year, talking all this "dream team" crap and still struggle to win. Yeah, it's cool (I guess) that they took it to the finals last year, but they should have probably won it. But they couldn't do it. They couldn't finish games. Why? Like I said, just don't have that drive. They're displaying having a tough time of it here in this year's playoffs against the Pacers. I think they can make it to the finals again this year, but they won't win. The West in 6. Whoever represents the East. Later, QD.
    VERY wrong..... what about the drive lebron/bosh showed against chicago AND boston last year. Wade had 2 bad series. he played good in the finals and lebron had a bad series..... not the end of the world. you brush that shit off and go hard the next year..... everybody losses man....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    VERY wrong.....
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    Upgraded flagrant 2 isn't always suspension.

    Hansbourough made a play on the ball, haslem and Pittman are suspended because there was no play on the ball and both were retaliation fouls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Upgraded flagrant 2 isn't always suspension.

    Hansbourough made a play on the ball, haslem and Pittman are suspended because there was no play on the ball and both were retaliation fouls
    I just think indiana spends so much time trying to make everybody think they are a tough team, that they get away from what they do well. Then they fall directly into what miami does well.

    You picking indiana to win game 6 and go to miami and win game 7?

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    im not disagreeing with you, i think Indianas shot at winning is getting in Miamis head. Which they did for 3 games. But, Miami refocused and Indiana collapsed last 2 games. Taunting and physical isnt going to win it alone, they have to hit shots, and shut the other players down. Battier having 10+ points is unacceptable.

    Im going with Indiana in Game 6, Game 7 to me will be a toss up. If youre asking the basketball player in me, Miami in 7, always hard to go against Miami. I think it depends what happens in Game 6. I question Miami being able to close out and win a CLOSE GAME. As long as Indiana hangs around, they always have a shot to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    im not disagreeing with you, i think Indianas shot at winning is getting in Miamis head. Which they did for 3 games. But, Miami refocused and Indiana collapsed last 2 games. Taunting and physical isnt going to win it alone, they have to hit shots, and shut the other players down. Battier having 10+ points is unacceptable.

    Im going with Indiana in Game 6, Game 7 to me will be a toss up. If youre asking the basketball player in me, Miami in 7, always hard to go against Miami. I think it depends what happens in Game 6. I question Miami being able to close out and win a CLOSE GAME. As long as Indiana hangs around, they always have a shot to win.
    philly will lose game 7 saturday, but im sure they wont lose at home with ai in the building.... lol..... damn its good to see him....

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    GOD DAMN you ARE LIKE MY KYPTONITE. I CANT PICK SHIT WITH YOU . :P

    Boston looked HORRIBLE, just lazy. Boston can play like the East winner, then look like Atlanta lol

    Just no energy, no consistency, Bass shot like 10% , horrible horrible game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    GOD DAMN you ARE LIKE MY KYPTONITE. I CANT PICK SHIT WITH YOU . :P

    Boston looked HORRIBLE, just lazy. Boston can play like the East winner, then look like Atlanta lol

    Just no energy, no consistency, Bass shot like 10% , horrible horrible game.
    yea, but they play like a completely different team at home. but if they play like that again, they will lose. Don't get me wrong, I want philly to win. Louis williams is a good friend of mine, I would nothing better then for them to win. But going to boston to win a game 7 is like indiana coming to miami and winning game 7, very tough to do.
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    WOW Wade saying "GET OUTTA MY WAy" and dominating this game. Pacers just look horrible defensively. How can you let wade pick you apart that bad.
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    Wade is a scoring legend. His ability to slash to the rim, get contact, and finish regardless is second to none. His post game is strong and when his jump shot is on, there is no guarding him.

    Remember the playoff game some years back when he killed boston with 47 points and he was alone in miami. That's why he's my favorite nba player and chris paul is my 2nd......

    Now they'll roll past the next round and hit a wall in the finals. But they "can" win it all, its gonna be good to see......

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    Yeah, and now bird is crying cuz his team got there ass whooped at home and is not gonna be a game 7. For all yall doubters thats what ya get. I swear Wade is a fucking beast and the heats defense is rediculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1slwdsm View Post
    Yeah, and now bird is crying cuz his team got there ass whooped at home and is not gonna be a game 7. For all yall doubters thats what ya get. I swear Wade is a fucking beast and the heats defense is rediculous
    last year Miller, Haslem and Chalmers were actually playing good and they still lost to the Mavericks which nobody thought was a legit title contender. This year, theyre no better than they were last year.... however....... the Spurs are now healthy and firing on all 8 cylinders and OKC has gel'd. Unless Wade can continue to score 40+ a night, the Heat are not gonna be a match for either of these teams. When Wade gets burned out and the pressure falls onto Lebron's shoulders....... well... we all know how thats gonna turn out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Unless Wade can continue to score 40+ a night, the Heat are not gonna be a match for either of these teams. When Wade gets burned out and the pressure falls onto Lebron's shoulders....... well... we all know how thats gonna turn out.
    What happened april 4th? Wade scored 19, lebron had 34....... durant had 30, westbrook with 28...... remind me who won the game? ....... doesnt matter anyway, okc wont beat SA, so we no longer need to discuss them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1slwdsm View Post
    For all yall doubters thats what ya get.
    They beat Indiana. Let's make this comment when they play a really good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    What happened april 4th? Wade scored 19, lebron had 34....... durant had 30, westbrook with 28...... remind me who won the game? ....... doesnt matter anyway, okc wont beat SA, so we no longer need to discuss them.
    Miami lost the finals because the Heat actually needed Lebron to step up. When the spotlight shines on Lebron....... he curls up into the fetal position. He's not Jordan, Kobe, Duncan.... Lebron has every tool imaginable..... but heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Miami lost the finals because the Heat actually needed Lebron to step up. When the spotlight shines on Lebron....... he curls up into the fetal position. He's not Jordan, Kobe, Duncan.... Lebron has every tool imaginable..... but heart.
    the best shooting 7 foot human in the history of the nba had nothing to do with it? along with the #3 AND #4 BEST % 3 point shooters in NBA HISTORY had nothing to do with it???

    people spend so much energy and time making sure they hate lebron, they forget to actually remember they know nothing about basketball to begin with.....

    pop quiz....... who is the best PG in the nba this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    the best shooting 7 foot human in the history of the nba had nothing to do with it? along with the #3 AND #4 BEST % 3 point shooters in NBA HISTORY had nothing to do with it???

    people spend so much energy and time making sure they hate lebron, they forget to actually remember they know nothing about basketball to begin with.....

    pop quiz....... who is the best PG in the nba this year?
    you ask an opinion and think it somehow validates mine or your credibility? It's not that hard to hate a douche like Lebron, he makes it very easy.

    "experts" would probably say Paul,Rose,Wade,Rondo,Westbrook............ I'll take Tony Parker myself.

    And youre right............... Dirk had everything to do with it..... that is why he is a champion... and Lebron is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    you ask an opinion and think it somehow validates mine or your credibility? It's not that hard to hate a douche like Lebron, he makes it very easy.

    "experts" would probably say Paul,Rose,Wade,Rondo,Westbrook............ I'll take Tony Parker myself.
    You can tell a lot about people's basketball knowledge in many ways. I don't like lebrons inability to make a jump shot on a consistent basis, only thing i dont like about him. I don't care what team he is on, what car he drives, what he says in an interview, if he does or doesnt shake hands with people. I watch/enjoy the sport of basketball, not all the b/s off the court people care oh so much about.

    hell i could sit here and say i think david west is a douche because he walked into the locker room at halftime up 2 points in game 6 and bypassed the 20 children/kids that held their hands out to get a 5 from him.


    I like your choice of parker. He is great! IMO chris paul is the best point guard in the nba. The ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY player in the NBA that you can take off his team and them NOT make the playoffs after making it with that player on the roster. ALL NBA 1st team defense, ALL NBA 1st team as well..... #3 in the nba in assists, #1 in the nba in steals (not even close), 86% from the foul line, 36% from the 3 point line, 57% (true shooting %), #4 in the nba in assists/turnover ratio!.... the top 3 in that category play like 5 minutes a game and NEVER have the ball in their hands..... bibby,calderon,bonner.... #3 in the nba in steals per foul, #4 in the nba in efficiency behind only james,durant, and bynum ......

    and 4th quarter clutch that you say lebron doesnt have...... chris paul has enough for the both of them! top 5 in the nba in 4th quarter scoring all year.

    pretty much it comes down to this. he did MUCH more then any other pg in the nba did with much less......blake griffin, lol come on now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
    You can tell a lot about people's basketball knowledge in many ways.
    Do you realize how much sense this makes? Like pretty much zero, right? In reference to: "pop quiz....... who is the best PG in the nba this year?," how are you going to ask opinion based questions and then judge another's knowledge in basketball by it? Or just because you don't like Lebron, you know nothing about the sport? That's the same as saying that the Buick Enclave is the best SUV in the world and if you don't think so, you know nothing about cars. This kind of tells me that you're not that knowledgeable, yourself. That you rely solely on numbers to get you through.

    But wait! I don't even know if that is it. Know why? Your claim of the Dallas Mavericks having the best percentage three point shooters in NBA history seem to fall a bit short. I decided to look around on the Mavericks roster last year and saw only Peja Stojakovic as being on any list. And he was placed at or around number seven. No one had him at three or four. I guess the other you're thinking about is Kidd. He doesn't even rank at all.

    I'm not trying to bash you dude, but come on, man, lolol. And unless you're talking just straight up who won what title, then, for the most part, opinion based questions are no way to judge anyone's knowledge on something. Later, QD.Later, QD.
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