Should marijuana be legalized?

[SPOOLIN]

I hate it and dont really associate with people i know that smoke it. I hate the SMELL worse then cigs. Its illegal for the time being so stay the fuck away. Not to mention, everyone i know that does smoke it, is amazingly a worthless waste of human life at the same time. Funny how that works. I dont know about coincidence on that one. Ive never tried it, and i wont. IF it ever becomes legal, ill feel differently about it and might associate with some of those people just cause i can and not worry about going to jail if they get caught and im near by but i wont be anywhere near it when its lit. God that shit STINKS and the wreaking cloud of it at concerts is THE WORST!

[lilmanx01]

its the gateway drug to other drugs most ppl would say... but its also the gateway drug for the cops to bust your ass...meaning bud smells a million ppl smoke it. they catch with a blunt...a lil nug whatever..the smell they get to search your ass. and boom they get your ass for a million other things...guns...other drugs or nething illegal. its an easy way for them to catch 'big fish' therefore i do not see them truly legalizing it. yes medicinal purposes and shit but thats probably about it..i dont think it will go back to the 70s or whatever where we can all puff a j posted up newhere blowin in a cops face

[ctzfinest18]

yea i feel that one i think the smell is the only thing that gets you caught an if u act like an asshole cause the smell sticks to u hard an when u act dumb its like pointing at ur self jumping in circles saying officer im high come an search me ive got a dub in my pocket

[lilmanx01]

^or worse in your pocket or on you. come on now how many ppl do you know that smoke bud.....AND THEN SOME. pop pills...tabs..bars...valiums..percusets...X... Then you have other drugs....that white, H, shrooms, cid..its all endless. THEN basically everyone that uses...sells. some real big time. some small time that buy little half quarters or quarters and jst sell off a lil to cover there money. but then out of all the ones that sell you have the ones that carry protection..knifes..guns whatever illegal and legal shit ya know

yea the gov could legalize it and make tons of tax money. but they could also keep it illegal along with all the other drugs and make a million more busts per year. get all the drugs...put them back in circulation...and bust even more. your not gona end crime by making crime legal. i think you have to look beyond jst bud...relate it to all the other drugs. lol and we all know everyone has/does smoke bud. therefore everyone has/or wants it to be legal

[ctzfinest18]

^ tru tru i feel that i mean its nuthin if u think about it ive smoked bud but thats old new theres a time to grow up everyone that does it now will see soon enuff that theres no point an hopefully move on

[cttdid666]

IMO drugs make the United States go round...if Bud were legal then a hell of alot of problems would drop and most ppl wouldn't use it as much.

[SOHC MONSTER]

I agree. As long as its done responsibly and out of direct sight of public, then who cares? I don't smoke it anymore and the smell makes me sick. If you do it in your own home... Thats your business, not anyone elses...

[lilmanx01]

oh yeah haha def makes the world go around. and i dont care if ppl smoke it...i dont ne more. but the smell def doesnt make me sick....haha reminds me of some wild times

[green91]

I dont see how the govt should be able to regulate what a person puts in their own body.

[smk417]

i say legalize it. weed was made illegal only after prohibition because the gov didnt want people smoking insted of drinking, and smoking hasnt kill a single person in over 2000 years of cultivation. also mayor luguardia (not spelled right) of new york had the only real test on pot done and found that when not abused it had no negitive effects on the human body. (abuse meaning getting blitzed out of your skull all day every day.)

[lilmanx01]

i rmr someone looked it up and to OD from it you would have like smoke 10-20 pounds in 15 mins

[twkg]

I don't think for a second that the use of marijuana would go down if it were legalized. People are getting past the whole stage of "Oh, what a thrill because it's illegal." It's more likely that people smoke because it makes them feel better, either physically or mentally. It is most definitely a gateway drug. People like the high. Thereafter seeking out an even better high from another substance.

Do I think it should be legalized? Hell no. Too much shit can go down during deals and I'm more than happy knowing that I'm not surrounded by that bullshit. I'm tired of being out driving and almost getting nailed by some dumbass hotboxing his ride. It's just as bad as drinking and there are laws involved with that as well.

[SidewayzS14]

I used to smoke everyday and i dont think it shoudl be legal only because i mean yeah its weed and its not as bad as other drugs but if u really think about look what tabacco companys did to cigarettes they put all kinds of shit in them...one Marijuana is not an addictive drugs you get tobacco companies out there making weed cigarettes or sumthign you know their just gonna put more shit in their once you got people addicted to weed it just creates more problems also weed really does lead to other drugs most time i mean people get tired of smokign and want to try somethign new wether that be coke, ice,acid,x etc it just makes thigns worse and honestly cops are only really looking for the higher up people who are pushing pounds i know here in Gwinnett county you get pulled over with a little bit of green on you n a pipe most fot he time they arent gonna take u to jail they're just gonna take your shit and smash your pipe u just have to be hoenst about i cant tell you how manyt iem i've been blazed out of my mind and have told the truth and have had weed on me n pipes and the cops let me go with a warning for being hoenst like i said they are looking for worse drugs and also how many of us have been to concerts? just about everyone people smoke at concerts all the time and the cops dotn give a shit i mean take Weezer last year people were smoking right in front of cops and they didnt do shit just my sorry for spelling mistakes

[toonz]

It dosnt matter legal or not Im going to still smoke to get intouch with my inner feelings LOL

[never2loud]

hell yeah just think about the commercials they'll make for iit that shit will be funny as hell, b/c they are going to have to advertise to sell so just think of the stupid shit they're going to come up with, i mean we already got stupid commercials now just think of when they do that.

[toonz]

If everyone were to smoke BobMarley this world would be a better place im not talking about getting stupid high im talking about high enough where you will still be able to handle your business

[VTECin5th]

I dont smoke pot, and it should be legal becuase (even) though its not. People will still smoke pot all thier life what difference does it make

[PRiMAdonna]

alcohol is legal, and it impairs your ability to function more than the effects of marijuana.
also, IMO the buying/selling of it would benefit out economy...

[cceinc]

The reason they will not legalize it is they have no way of measuring how much you have had instantly like BAC. It is already a billion dollar industry for the Gov't. They make money form not only the fines but when they confincate the good and then resell it the the highest bidder overseas. Just like weapons the United States the Largest Drug and weapons dealer in the world.

[Tasuki_Civic]

The reason they will not legalize it is they have no way of measuring how much you have had instantly like BAC. It is already a billion dollar industry for the Gov't. They make money form not only the fines but when they confincate the good and then resell it the the highest bidder overseas. Just like weapons the United States the Largest Drug and weapons dealer in the world.

i could have never said it better.

[Jaimecbr900]

Wow!!! Some of you need to KEEP smoking whatever it is you're smoking and remember NOT to reproduce........some of yall are total malinformed idiots of the first degree.

IF you are going to defend ANYTHING, please do some half intelligent research. Smoking a blunt or a bowl with your boys on your back porch IS NOT research. Listening to your half lit bud that just did that bowl wit ya is also NOT research.

How is the gov't or anyone going to regulate it?

How are they going to modify it's use, i.e. how are you going to tell if someone is over the "limit"?

How are you going to determine what that "limit" is?

How are you going to tax it if it will suddenly become legal for people to sell it on the street?

How are you going to monitor production?

How are you going to regulate what one "farmer" puts onto his crop vs the other?


Some of you need to seriously read up on what a drug is and what it can and does to someone's body both physically and mentally. EVERY drug has a side effect. EVERY drug will diminish your ability to do certain things. Some people can function at .10 BAC while others are blatto at .05 BAC, eventhough one is "legal" and the other is not.

People will always do drugs that want to do drugs. It may be that marijuana is not the worst drug out there, but it is a drug. It affects the body just like any other substance. But just because it doesn't affect the body as violently as some other drugs don't make it out to be like it's candy. It's not. Not all pot is the same, trust me I KNOW.

Bottomline is that is not an easy answer to this. On one hand marijuana has shown some GOOD side effects, so it does have some positive uses. On the other hand you are opening up a pandorah's box by allowing one drug to be legal while keeping the others illegal. Who's to say that someone doesn't come along and demand that coke or heroin be made legal too?

We are being too simple minded if we think that there's one answer to this question. It's not that simple. There are lots of variables to think about.

[StupidBikerBoy]

The reason they will not legalize it is they have no way of measuring how much you have had instantly like BAC. It is already a billion dollar industry for the Gov't. They make money form not only the fines but when they confincate the good and then resell it the the highest bidder overseas. Just like weapons the United States the Largest Drug and weapons dealer in the world.

Not true.

There are ways for cops to test on location, just as drinking tests (lift one leg, taking so many steps in a line, etc.). I have personally been put through some of them.

Remember, the roadside test is only to determine reasonable doubt to detain and further test. None of the roadside tests are admisable in court, but the test you take when you are brought in is. They can easily test for MJ then.

They do issue DUI's for being high also, one of my boys got one.

And as far as it being a billion dollar industry for the gov't, they also spend billions on the enforcement of the laws.

And last, of course America is the largest drug and weapons dealer, we are also the richest by far. We are the largest dealer of many other things also.

[StupidBikerBoy]

I still say we should legalize it, and tax it.

Spend the tax money on education of drugs and clinics to help those that want to get away from it.

[MusicIsLife]

Quality control.. we couldn't maintain the quality.. if it was grown to "standards", what is in it, how old, bla bla bla. Also it couldn't be taxed. Why buy it for some jacked up price at the store when people will still buy it from the local guy behind blockbuster like they always have. It would just be like moonshining.

I'm all for the legalization and think it would be awesome to go to my house with no worries that I'm baked, or be able to stand those few times of church I meet up with the family for, or w/e and wouldn't feel guilty..

[GTScoob]

Quality control.. we couldn't maintain the quality.. if it was grown to "standards", what is in it, how old, bla bla bla. Also it couldn't be taxed. Why buy it for some jacked up price at the store when people will still buy it from the local guy behind blockbuster like they always have. It would just be like moonshining.

You really think it would be cheaper buying it from some sketchball than from a store legally? See my old post. If it is legalized, even after taxation, there is no way that it would cost more than it does nowadays. Tobacco is so cheap but you end up paying as assload in taxes, think the same deal.

[Jaimecbr900]

There are ways for cops to test on location, just as drinking tests (lift one leg, taking so many steps in a line, etc.). I have personally been put through some of them.

Field sobriety tests is one thing, detection is another.

Remember, the roadside test is only to determine reasonable doubt to detain and further test. None of the roadside tests are admisable in court, but the test you take when you are brought in is. They can easily test for MJ then.

Exactly HOW are they going to determine that?

The amount of THC in your body?

Did you know that THC remains in your body, depending on the users dosage, for up to a month? So, how are they going to be able to prove that THC detected today is not remnants of toking up yesterday or a week ago?

THC metabolizes into your fat cells and is stored there. That is how people get "violated" for using while out of jail on probation or parole. Tests show they used, not how much. How much happens to be the only determining factor in sobriety. You can smoke a J today and the "high" be over in a few hours. How does that make you guilty of a DUI a week from now? It doesn't. But if you use THC measurements and equipment that the police would likely use, it only shows that you smoked....not when nor how much.

So again, HOW are you going to determine who is and isn't "under the influence" in the field? Police will not be able to take the amount of time nor use the very expensive equipment needed to accurately determine someone's current THC content.

They do issue DUI's for being high also, one of my boys got one.

How'd they test him for being under the influence of anything but alcohol?

Your boy probably admitted to doing the drug and thereby given the admission of guilt can and does get charged. As explained above, a pee test will only determine if he smoked MJ, not how much nor when.

[StupidBikerBoy]

Field sobriety tests is one thing, detection is another.

There ARE field sobriety test that determine recent use of MJ. As I said I have been subjected to a few. The one I remember is where they shined a light in my and told me to look in the other direction, only turning my eyes. I dont have a clue what they were looking for. Look into it if you don't believe me, but I'm not making this up.

THC remains in your body, depending on the users dosage, for up to a month? So, how are they going to be able to prove that THC detected today is not remnants of toking up yesterday or a week ago?

There are numerous ways to test for it, and a hair folicle test can determine the time frame it was used. A piss test is only used to determine use, there are others that yield more results.

How'd they test him for being under the influence of anything but alcohol?

Your boy probably admitted to doing the drug and thereby given the admission of guilt can and does get charged. As explained above, a pee test will only determine if he smoked MJ, not how much nor when.

I don't know what test they used in court, I wasn't there. But I do know that he didn't admit to it and tried to fight it. And again, a piss test is not the only method used to test for drug use.

[Jaimecbr900]

There ARE field sobriety test that determine recent use of MJ. As I said I have been subjected to a few. The one I remember is where they shined a light in my and told me to look in the other direction, only turning my eyes. I dont have a clue what they were looking for. Look into it if you don't believe me, but I'm not making this up.

That test is administered as an initial sign of sobriety. If your pupils do not respond quickly enough to the light, you are thought to be under the influence of SOMETHING. That in itself is NOT enough evidence to convice anyone of anything. It gives reasonable cause for the officer to be allowed to go further. Just like field sobriety tests. You will not get convicted of DUI on a field sobriety test ALONE. That is why they bring you into the PD to test you AGAIN.

There are numerous ways to test for it, and a hair folicle test can determine the time frame it was used. A piss test is only used to determine use, there are others that yield more results.

You would have lots of innocent people in jail, which would subsequently cause a huge backlog of lawsuits against the PD if you are going to use a folicle test for each and every one of the people suspected of DUI. It takes a long time for a hair folicle test to be done and results returned. What are you going to do with the person in the meantime? You can't put someone in jail w/o proof....proof doesn't come for a few weeks.....what are you going to do? Put that person in jail until then? What if it comes back negative for MJ? Wouldn't you be liable for damages and wrongful incarceration?

No PD will ever be stupid enough to open themselves up for lawsuit action like that. You have to have a method of testing that not only gives you accurate results, but it also gives you those results right then and there.

Again, do the research and find a testing method that fits those two criteria at the same time.

I don't know what test they used in court, I wasn't there. But I do know that he didn't admit to it and tried to fight it. And again, a piss test is not the only method used to test for drug use.

There are tests out there that determine if you've had THC lately, but the problem with DUI cases is that you have to prove that you have THC right now and at which amount. THC is stored in the body, even when you are not high and when you are not smoking right this minute. That's the big problem. The only tests accurate enough to determine how much and when take a lot of time and are expensive. Therefore, they are useless for officers in the field that have to make a determination of someone's sobriety right then and there. Unlike alcohol, THC is absorbed differently in the body. If it got into the blood stream and stayed there for a specific amount of time at a specific metabolic rate, fine. But it doesn't at all.

So the very first case that went to court someone could simply say that they ingested some or even inhaled by accident as second hand smoke a week ago and that's how it showed up in their system. Both ways will show positive test results, but neither shows the person was under the influence when they were tested. So how could it hold up in court?

Again, I'm not supporting the ban of MJ all together because it does have positive effects unlike other drugs. But we also have to realize that its not as easy as just letting people do it whenever because it's not as easy as that either.

[thinkfast®]

I say go for it

[Tasuki_Civic]

I say go for it

hahahahaha

[Bballjamal]

Legalized bud would more than likely get toned down a bit which would mean more people would find ways to make it stronger. Then with it being legal, they wouldn't be so undercover to do testing and grow stronger strands!


I'm down for legalization.........

[Tasuki_Civic]

Bballjamal

whose tha chick with her tittays out on your sig? interesting :boobies:

[£G2♣]

Bballjamal

whose tha chick with her tittays out on your sig? interesting :boobies:

from what he made a thread about, it was some what a forein exchange friend from thai?

that was his gift, from her before she left back, also got some :boobies: :idb: :idb:

[Bballjamal]

lmao! Yea it was a friend that was visiting from thailand! She lived here in atlanta most of her life but moved to thai about 3yrs ago. She came back for a couple weeks and we jumped off pretty good from the last time we knew each other! Then Eg2 finishes off the rest well!

that was his gift from her before she left back (to thai), also got some :boobies: :idb: :idb:

In a nutshell

[Big J]

It's one of the few herbal medicines that actually work. Given a choice between Benadryl, Ambien, or marijuana for my sleep problems, marijuana hands down (I don't smoke it due to the possible legal issues). Another issue is even w/ insurance Ambien has a $50 copay, the drug company is going to get paid so long as their drug has a market. Marijuana seriously competes with a lot of drug catagories. Another reason marijuana remains illegal is it is so heavily associated with the counter colture movment in the 60's 70', wether or not it had any direct effect on the magnitude of it, the governmet would rather err on the side of caution as far as risking that marijuana could be a scocial catalyst. It could go on and on, tax dollars, criminalize citizens, medical, ect. So everyone who said it should stay illegal, go fix yourself another drink and think it over again.

[Demo-Del-Sol]

hell yeah it should be legal

[SloWRX]

ofcourse it should be... but should be forbidden to be smoked in certain places

[Sushi]

I got an mp3 of the post above. PM me if you want it.

[Slowboy]

yes

[thinkfast®]

Im gettin impaired right now