to me weed is like real estate almost......
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dont give a shit
to me weed is like real estate almost......
It should NOT be. The idiots that do it and think they're cool as hail need to be shipped off somewhere away from regualr people who have a care in the world. Later, QD.
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okay... i got MAD love for ya Q, but that is simply the most MORONIC statement I've ever seen. It's suprising that someone as smart as you would say that stupid shit. I mean, come on man, YOU'VE NEVER TRIED IT!!! so how the FUCK can you call me an idiot because I choose to be a user? It's not like I'm a crack head.
And BTW, don't you work for budweiser? please homey, you drive a bud truck-- your company contributes to so many drunk driving fatalities, ppl beating their spouses, etc etc... how is weed so bad? that was the most contradictory statement ive ever seen... sheesh...
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i live my life one license suspension at a time-- and for that 6 months or more, i still drive.
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Alcohol isnt exactly hard to make, but plenty of ppl still buy it and pay tax on it.. if u can drive down the store and pick up good shit why bother growing it?
Honestly and truthfully.. I'm sure plenty of people would grow their own but I guarantee it'd be less than half. Not everyone cares to have a full plantation in their yard. Technically you can make your own cigars and alcohol but does everyone do it? Why when you can just walk to the store without the added hassle.
LOL, haha, Alot of smokers on this board!
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if you rear end him your to blame.
this is true, fucked up rule but it is true. No matter what the circumstances are its the persons fault in the rear, thats off topic though. Ive driven stoned many times and sadly Ive driven drunk many times (never again though) and I actually feel Im much more cautious when Im stoned, no one is at full driving potential unless they are sober, Im not trying to have a debate about driving stoned being legal though. Its not legal to drive drunk but alcohol is still legal.
Simply put....should it be legal to posses and use marijuana in your own home???
Well marijuana been legal, has other uses then just the smoking effects, but people for get about it.
1) the seeds are high in protein and are great for making foods
2) other countries have already learned how to make wood boards out of the Cannabis Sativa(the offical name for the whole marijuana.
Right now in the United States the root, stem and stalks are legal, but a farmer can not grow Cannabis cause it illegal to possess the bud and flowers of it. By the legalizing the plant it would allow famers to grow the cannabis for other uses then just smoking it.
BUT don't get your hopes up cause it will never happen in our lifes times. The problem is that the stalk has oils in it that could help shift the gas and paper industaries away from big corp oil companys, but cause the government officals are getting money from big name oil companys so it won't happen. Just like it took the government almost 20 to 30 years before hybrid cars and all that started becoming easier to buy and getting tax breaks from.
well your half right anyway. but you talking about hemp. we are talking about marijuana.
Hemp Vs. Marijuana: What's the Difference?
Have you ever passed by a store window that displayed hemp purses, clothing, or other products for sale? Many people immediately think of marijuana when they see hemp products, and while the word "hemp" frequently pops up in marijuana-related debates, hemp and marijuana are not the same thing. One of the most important differences is that marijuana can get a person high and hemp cannot. Let's look at some of their other characteristics:
What do hemp and marijuana have in common?
Hemp and marijuana are varieties of the Cannabis sativa plant.
It is illegal to grow both hemp and marijuana in the United States (although it is not illegal to sell or purchase hemp products—hence the hemp bags and dresses you see in store windows).
The two plants have similar aromas when in bloom—however, only one will get a person high.
How are hemp and marijuana different?
Smoking marijuana will make the user high, and smoking hemp will not. Hemp contains less than 1 percent of the active ingredient THC, the substance that gives pot smokers a high. Marijuana plants, on the other hand, contain 10 to 20 percent THC.
Marijuana plants and hemp plants have different appearances and are harvested differently. Marijuana plants tend to be short and bushy, while hemp plants can have stalks that are 25 feet high!
Unlike marijuana, hemp has many uses. Over 25,000 products can be manufactured from hemp, including hair conditioner, diapers, insulation, carpets, paper, and perfume.
The hemp debate and the marijuana debate are often confused with each other. Proponents of legalizing hemp cultivation focus on the plant's many uses and the fact that it requires no pesticides in order to flourish. However, opponents express concern that permitting hemp cultivation would result in the legalization of marijuana cultivation because both hemp and marijuana come from the same plant.1 Opponents also say that other raw materials are more economical than industrial hemp. Cultivating hemp is currently illegal in the United States, although hemp items are imported.
Marijuana, on the other hand, is illegal because of its health risks. Proponents of legalizing marijuana point to recent studies that show that there may be some medical* benefits associated with marijuana use. But, any benefits of legalizing marijuana—medical or otherwise—have to be weighed against the disadvantages, such as the intoxicating effects of and serious health risks posed by marijuana.
During debates about the legal status of marijuana, the environmental and economic benefits of hemp may be used in arguments for the legalization of marijuana. But, remember that hemp and marijuana are not the same thing, and the risk factor for marijuana legalization is much higher.
just think about the weed commercials theyll be hilarious, that will be the best part for me seein i odnt smoke
IMO
All drugs should be legalized and taxed. This would almost eliminate the crime involved with it.
All the taxes earned from them should be spent on education of the drugs and services to help the ones who want to get away from them and need help
+1 Thats a great way of looking at it. Ive debated on this subject with friends many times and that thought has never crossed my mind.IMO
All drugs should be legalized and taxed. This would almost eliminate the crime involved with it.
All the taxes earned from them should be spent on education of the drugs and services to help the ones who want to get away from them and need help
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I'm all for legalizing it. Tobacco is dirt cheap to make and they package it up, tax the hell out of it and sell it at $4 for 20 cigs worth ( I wish I knew the weight of the tobacco in a cig to compare to bud prices). If it was legalized they could still tax the shit out of it and it would be less than street prices. Imagine being able to go to the gas station and get a box of Marlboro Greens filled with 20 spliffs of the finest green. . .
If it was legal you wouldnt have any of the drug wars (granted most of those are dealing with much harder/more expensive drugs) or shady dealings.
The only problem is that it is political suicide for anyone to bring it up in congress unless they're the libertarian party.
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From I Blow Minds for a Living, recorded at Slim's, San Francisco, Nov 21, 1990
Does anybody out there know that for the first time in American history the U.S. Army was used in a war operation against the American people? Right near here, up in Humboldt County about 200 miles north of San Francisco right near a town called Shelter Cove, get this: three- to four-hundred American G.I.s dressed with automatic rifles and fully armed for battle, fanned out on maneuvers through the woods, backed up by a dozen Blackhawk attack helicopters. The mountain people up there were frightened out of their wits! They thought there was a war going on, especially the ones that had soldiers kicking in
And they actually did manage to find a few for the G.I.s to pull up, and then they had to fly in more from the government stash so the pile would look big enough when they lit the bonfire for the
If we're serious about saving the earth, saving the ozone and our freedom to go about saving the earth and the ozone, we should start by paying all those dirt-poor coca farmers in South America and out-of-work loggers in Fortuna and Eureka, and Midwest family farmers and rust-belt families too, to all get together and grow more pot!
Why? Get ready for this...! There's a book out called The Emperor Wears No Clothes. The author's name is Jack Herer. It's published by Queen of Clubs, and I think there's ads for it in High Times, or NORML, the National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws, could direct you to a copy I'm sure, and in this book, among other places, it is written that before the 20th century, the marijuana plant provided almost all the world's paper, all the world's clothing and textiles, and almost all the world's rope.
According to none other than the U.S. Department of Agriculture you can make four times as much paper from one acre of hemp plants as you can from an acre of trees. And instead of chopping down all the redwoods in Humboldt County and turning Northern California, Oregon and Washington and Appalachia into the Sahara Desert, if you do it with hemp plants, you can just grow another crop a few months later and make more paper! At one-quarter the cost of making paper from wood pulp and only one-fifth the pollution. The ancient Romans knew this and grew it, Henry VIII made each farmer in old England grow their share, because they knew if you want the strongest natural fiber there is, you all have gotta do your part for the King and grow more pot!
And we did, too! Guess what Levi jeans were originally made out of? And guess what American flags used to be made out of? And guess what the early drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution were written on? And if that's too un-Christian for you, guess what they made Guttenberg and King James Bibles out of? Guess what you can use to power a car? You can get at least four times as much cellulose to make gasohol or methanol from hemp stems as you can from a corn stalk. Which along with solar energy would be a great way to avoid dying for oil in Saudi Arabia.
In the 1920s and 1930s most American cars and farm machinery had the option of running on gas or on methanol; most racing cars still do run on methanol. And George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew cannabis on their plantations and smoked it, too!
In the 1760s in the American colonies you could even be jailed for not growing pot! Because that was part of the key to becoming economically independent from Britain. Hemp was legal tender in the Americas, a substitute for money, from 1630 clear up to the early 1800s. And hemp seeds are a great source of protein, better than soybeans, and it's cheaper than soybeans, too. Or so says the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Marijuana is legal for medical use in 34 states used to treat glaucoma and pain caused by cancer, and you can digest more protein from a hemp seed than a soybean seed. It's even shown some signs at being able to combat herpes. And, guess what kind of a parachute Mr. Drug War Junta-Man himself George Bush used when he bailed out of that bomber in World War II?
Hemp was illegal by then, but farmers were briefly ordered to grow it again in this country for the war effort and all, and the U.S. Army had their own stash all along in the colonies in the Philippines.
So, how did everything get turned around so damn bad? Doesn't it strike you as a little dumb that we burn oil and choke ourselves and chop down all our trees and ruin innocent people's lives by branding them criminals and throwing them in jails, or sending them off to drug camps, or taking all their property and selling it before they're brought to trial? In the process, making crack and heroin cheaper and easier to get than pot? Why do we do this when we don't have to?
Meanwhile the Police Chief of L.A., Darryl Gates gets front page approval for telling a U.S. Senate committee that pot smokers should be shot on sight. Because smoking pot is treason because, after all, it's illegal.
Why was marijuana cracked down on? And why was it done so violently? Well ... Ready?!
In 1936 Popular Mechanics magazine hailed the invention of a new machine to process hemp, predicting that marijuana/hemp would once again become the world's largest cash crop. This did not at all sit well with people like Hearst Paper Manufacturing or Kimberly-Clark or other cutthroat multinationals who happen to have large timber holdings. It didn't sit to well with tobacco barons for obvious reasons, and it sure as hell didn't sit too well with old buddies DuPont. Hemp processing uses only one-fifth the chemicals need to process wood pulp, and DuPont had just patented a new wood pulp sulfide process, and DuPont's patented plastic fibers had just passed up hemp as the No. 2 fiber, next to cotton, and they wanted to keep it that way!
And the last thing the big drug companies wanted was to lose their share of the ever lucrative disease industry market, to more affordable medicine made from marijuana or other natural ingredients because, check this out, you can't own and make money off a patent for medicine in this country, unless the medicine has chemicals in it. If it's all natural ingredients, you can't patent it. Maybe that's why we don't have access to a cure for cancer or AIDS, or why the health food store I go to keeps getting harassed by federal authorities for selling herbal medicines.
Meanwhile, guess who owns Congress? So marijuana was outlawed in 1937 and they fanned the racism fires playing the racism card just like they do when they want to crack down on rock-and-roll or rap or hip hop or something like that. They said that smoking marijuana might cause you to fall under the influence of listening to jazz! I believe that it was even said on the floor of Congress that marijuana had to be banned because smoking it might make a black man look at a white woman twice. And let's not forget that U.S. Treasury Department funded documentary film, called, "Reefer Madness!" So marijuana was outlawed as devil weed in 1937. Only 53 years ago it was legal. Need I say more, on why our beloved fearless leaders go out of their way to censor our access to information so damn much? Can you imagine the mass outrage if this kind of stuff ever really got out? And people knew that this big drug problem that they keep reading about and hearing about is being caused by the government themselves? And people knew how easily each one of us individually could turn our ecological and human crisis around without resorting to Nazi bullshit like oil wars and drug wars by just saying no! to George Bush.
And if people knew that the very companies that provide us with such crucial conveniences as Kleenex, paper towels and junk mail, have systematically and brutally rearranged every single one of our lives so that we are literally wiping our ass with out own future?
not my words but heres i got it from my friends myspace and thought it was one of the most intresting arguments some one else might have brought up some of her points to but she really gives very good defined issues for it to be legalized.
yes! it would eliminate road rage and hole lot of other shit that is unecessary in society today.....
i don't smoke, but think it should be legalized.
that being said, it never will get legalized here in the USA.
why? well phillip morris and friends don't want to give up their monopoly on the legal highs... and they have the lobbying $'s to make sure that will never happen.
They could make so much more money if they also cultivated weed.
Tobacco:
Pros-umm
Cons-lung cancer, throat cancer
Weed:
Pros-feels good, does not cause cancer
Cons-illegal
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it should deifnatly be legalized. I mean all the arguments about how bad reaction times are, are great but i mean think about it. People who are stoned don't want to do anything. They are just mellow people enjoying themselves. They don't want to get up and drive unless they absolutly have to.
To be honest - if i had to be around someone doing something (drinking, smoking cigs, smoking pot, acid, meth, etc.) i would much rather be around someone smoking pot. People who drink, not all but some, get violent, it's just true. Cigs are ok but i mean nothing extreme and the smell is worse than pot to me. And anything else people can have some crazy reactions to those.
ALSO, You cannot overdose on MJ. It's just a feel good thing.
and , the gov't doesn't realize how much money they could make if they legalized it through taxes.
hell yah it should be legalized....i used to smoke everyday all day until i moved down here last month, and now i havent since cause i dont know anyone that smokes.....so if anyone wants to help out with that i would greatly apprieciate it.....but yeah it should be legal all day
Compare alcohol to marijuana and you wonder how one can be legal but not the other.
Marijuana advocates will NEVER overcome the deep-rooted stigma of marijuana use.
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That's bull shit, im sure he's done it & or atleast tried it..fuck what he say.
simply my anwser would be yes
but if it was legalized now too many people would take advantage of it
kinda like if they took speed limits off the interstates
It won't be legal until there is an easy, simple test of current intoxication for DUI purposes. Now, as an economist and a libertarian, it should be legal, I'm just saying that there are some significant roadblocks to that happening.
What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.
well these are my views i have no facts to argue these but here goes
I say legalize it there really is no difference between weed and alcohol if anything alcohol is worse. but it should be controlled just like alcohol IEUI, intoxicate in public you know the same laws and restrictions maybe even a little more restrictions on weed for the first few years since everyone is going to go crazy going to the liquor and smoke shops and saying " hey let me get a pack of purp mediums and a lighter"
how ever I dont beleive the gov't will do it cause I dont think theyll really be able to tax it cause why would i go to the QT and buy a pack of bud for 4 dollars plus tax when i can go around the corner to the weed man and get the same amount if not more for the same price or less without having to pay taxes.
but whatever those are my views maybe someday but as of now its probably gonna remain illegal .....
Legalize it. The government spends billions of dollars a year going after marijuana and people who buy/sell/smoke it. Thats money that could be spent on education or put into social security. They also spend countless man hours trying to combat the use and sale of it. Think about all the other things police officers could be doing. They could focus more time on something that is much more threatening i.e. the gang problem in Gwinnett county. Instead of spending money trying to remove a drug that is as harmful if not less harmful than alcohol, they could be making money off of it through taxes on the sale and importation of it. A friend of mine's uncle is a narcotics officer and he says that marijuana should be legalized because of the amount of time they waste going after it when there are much more harmful drugs that need to be taken off the streets.
its my body, i believe i should have the freedom to inject or smoke or do whatever the fuck i want to do with it. if u dont own ur body, what do u own?
well i could careless... but its more safe then alcohol... and i notice... recently.. and even before... alot of crashes are caused by SOBER people... or so they say...
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Well I think it should be legalized. I am tired of hearing about people going to jail over this stupid shit. Tax it and allow the farmers to grow it. Farmers then have a new cash crop other then tobacco. I figure in a year the USA would no longer be worried about stopping the weed from coming in because we would be exporting it. The price would drop because the market would drop due to high levels of production coming from the USA farmer. Tabacco companies like phillip-Morris could start packaging it over night to sell in stores, flitered or unfiltered. Uncle Sam would get his share in tax and all would be happy.
Weed should be legal and that's it!
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no it shouldnt
i concur...
legal or not people still do it so what really does it matter tryin to get it legal??
its your life do what you want and when you get caught with it dont
be pissed at anyone but yourself, you chose to do it...
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It matters because people are going to jail over it and billions of your tax dollars are going to fight it. Wouldn't you rather your tax money go to something more productive like education, road construction/repair, social security, etc.
I also think that there should be an age restriction on it to prevent, for instance, 6th and 7th graders from getting weed. Personally I would suggest 18 because I think it would please not only a good amount of those that smoke but a good amount of politicians and anti-drug advocates.
i feel the same way why fight over it ? its useless waste of time an money
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i hope it never gets legalized.
it smells worse than shit and fucks with your mind. fuck that.
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I DNT GIVE A DAMN WETHER IT GET LEGALIZD OR NOT. BUT IF IT INTERFERES WITH HOW THINGS WRKS AS FAR A SHITTY WORK OR WHATEVER, THE CONSEQUENCES SHOULD BE HIGHER. IF UR GONNA SMOKE, SMOKE RESPONSIBLY. <- I MADE THAT SLOGAN UP. YAWL SAW IT FIRST.
My view on this is that if it was legal to have some of this stuff that it would not appeal to alot of the users because it isnt cool anymore...
For example, younger people such as high schoolers, try to go to parties where they can drink and you are 'cool' because you were able to get ahold of beer or what ever the beverage might be, but if your parents make this avaibable to you and tell you just dont drink but you can have all you want, then I bet that kid drinks alot less over the long run than those kids that have to be sneaky and do illegal things just to get it...
I think it would work the same way with some of our illegal drugs...but the strong ones hey why not legalize those to because then you would have some darwinism going on and we wouldnt have as many retarded people walking around...
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