if a democrat wins this election i hope it is Hilliary. im republic but it not looking that good for them this year, but why would we elect someone that goes to a church that think white ppl are the enemy and that does not pledge to the flag of our country that are U.S. soldier have lost there lives for.
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Lol, your about to get raped......Originally Posted by bouncy!
Young people dont have any respect for anything so why not vote for someone who doesnt respect his country. His wife said it, im sure he and his whole congregation felt the same way. "god damn america" sounds pretty positive from the mans life long mentor, but I guess we just arent open minded enough......
and why is that
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im pretty sure he was refering to the anti-Islamic statements people have made and not specific Obama issues.
you are right about that your not open minded enough, that kind of talk goes on at some point in all black churches, african americans of that age still hold a little grudge against whites because they grew up in the civil rights era. Time do heal wounds but it doesn't cover up the scar.
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I like what Richard Morris had to say today on H+C.
Look lets get some FACTS straight about OBama.
He has NO TRACK RECORD, NO HISTORY, NO POLICY.
He has friendships and associations with some very CRAZY and LEFT WING people.
His powerbase is from a bunch of crazy lunatic preachers (wright) in the city of Chicago. He aligned himself with Trinity church to further his potential political career.
Obama is dead even in a presidential race that should be the easiest win in history. This country WANTs to vote democratic, they dont want Bush 3 in the white house, the current presidnt has 28% approval rating, but for some reason Mcain is still LEADING. Obama should be 30 points ahead. Why isnt he?
BECAUSE HIS OWN PARTY DOESNT TRUST HIM. BECAUSE HE HAS NO QULAIFICATIONS TO RUN THIS COUNTRY, NO MILITARY RECORD, NO FOREIGN POLICY, NO LEGISLATURE HISTORY, NOTHING.
The only reason why we are even talking about Obama is because he is BLACK. The only reason we are talking about Hilary is because she is a WOMAN. Obama is nothing special, he is charasmatic, a decent speaker, and he has motivated the mostly ignorant American people.
There is a lot of RIGHT propaganda against Obama, such as this video, which most of it isnt true.
But regardless, the only person with any kind of record, service, dignity in the race is Mccain.
If you Vote Obama, prepare for worse times to come. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
He talks about CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN, yet all he has said he would do is talk with terrorsts and known terrorist states and end the war in IRaq.
WOW, great CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
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Im sorry the biggest racists around are black people. Wright , Jesse Jackson, SHarpton, i could go on. The only people propagating racism is wealthy well to do BLACK leaders an they use it to INSTILL FEAR in the mostly ignorant american poplace.
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You got some balls on you white man.
Lol I find that funny. Only people who propagand racism are wealthy black leaders.
FU.CKING idiot to believe that
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ok but there are white ppl that also marched with the black comminuty and supported them. there are also a good amount of white people that got killed for supporting or hanging out with african americans but do they ever take that into consideration.... i believe not
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This is funny......
People are so closed mined and stupid.
Kidd does sound close minded. I mean didn't Jesse Jackson run? He black and I remember that going nowhere. Also this is the first that I am hearing that McCain is leading.
i see this thread exceding 5 pages within 10 hours
It honestly doesnt matter, my mind is made up. There is NOTHING anyone can say to change my ballot. Close minded or not, I'm sure someone will try to enlighten with their liberal aura.
Next thing you know someone will want to take my guns away and make me pay for someone elses bad health....
As for the comment about Jews, I have been to Temple more than 1 occasion and the Rabbi speak of love in every sermon. They have SEVERAL prayers Blessing their children, life, Some the Messiah, etc... Jews are taught to focus on LOVE and not hatred.
thats exactly why you should vote republican
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Every race is racist. Non-whites "racist" use racism as a defense mechanism (most of the time it's due to fear...getting robbed, loosing land, revenge for the past), while whites are racist because they believe they are superior (white racist can't give reasons behind their hate most of the time). Just my opinion tho.
Then you cant READ.
My comments were on context to party and political leaders, not generalizing a race an its people.
I wont say that the BLACK RACE is the most racist, but the black leaders are the most racist in the country, hands down. That was my point.
Come on man keep up
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Sounds like a generalization to me and I don't see anything about the leaders being the racist ones in that sentence and again these ppl are not black leaders. I don't remember every voting for jesse or al or anyone else to be my leader.
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HAHA so you only pick out what you want to HEAR
i said
Im sorry the biggest racists around are black people. Wright , Jesse Jackson, SHarpton, i could go on. The only people propagating racism is wealthy well to do BLACK leaders an they use it to INSTILL FEAR in the mostly ignorant american poplace.
I mean even Mista Cee saw mypoint
Originally Posted by MistaCee
If you read my previous and post posts(redundant) you saw i was speaking on POLITICAL leaders.Lol I find that funny. Only people who propagand racism are wealthy black leaders.
Come on Tiger, quit trying to pick a fight over something out of context. instead lease present your arguement.
Im sorry but Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Obama i would consider black POLITICAL LEADERS whether you voted for them or not.
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I never saw your point buddy. Hence the(
Can I also say that it is a proven fact that Blacks and Hispanics are given more time than Whites are? Also while Whites make up the majority of the population they are still searched far less than Blacks and Hispanics.
Provide facts please.
Of course Blacks and Hispanics do more time, THEY DO MORE CRIME!@
DUH
Whites are searched far less? BECAUSE BLACKS COMMIT MORE CRIME DUH!
I mean what you are saying is like saying "Whites play in winter sports more than blacks".
DUH, last time i checked Canada an Europe didnt have a big BLACK population.
Thats like saying Blacks play in the NBA more than Whites.
NO ****!
WHites have more education than blacks. is that racist? im sure to you it is, but in reality, well, its true. But im sure you will say it because blacks dont have the same opportunity as whites.
Well then we created affirmative action. Equal Opportunity Hiring. But no, thats not good enough either.
Look, most BLACK politicians, WHICH IS WHAT THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT, or BLACK LEADERs, use FEAR as a tool of gaining constituents.
That is my point.
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Lol so you kind of just agreed with the dicrimination thing. Because the person is black or hispanic he should naturally spend more time in jail?
there are some racist cops but i think the main think Mr.KIDD is trying to say that racism is a big factor in black politics
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Also, minorities tend to be targeted more than whites (I droved down tara blvd. one night around 2am and was amazed by the amount of cops that where out).
oF COURSE THEY ARE THEY COMMIT MORE CRIMES!
They are targeted more because they DO MORE CRIME !!!!!!!
I didnt make those statistics up, thats US GOVERNEMENT AND STATE FUNDED CRIME STATISTICS, some done by INDEPENDANT AGENCIES.
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Oh and I like the way how you blew off the greater poverty numbers being the cause of blacks having a higher crime rate.
The young child poverty rate has grown twice as fast among whites as among blacks.
Although the incidence of poverty among whites is relatively low compared to blacks, the rate of white young children living in poverty grew twice as fast as that among blacks (38 percent versus 19 percent) between the late 1970s and the early 1990s. White children are the largest single ethnic group of young children in poverty. In 1994, there were over 2.2 million young white children living in poverty compared to 1.9 million young black children and 1.7 million young Hispanic children.
But again, they are more poor WHY? dont tell me because whites are racists.
Dont feed me that crap.
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Sounds to me like its a lack of work ethic. Slinging dope is easy and a "get rich quick" deal. No one wants to work for anything, they all want it handed to them. This is one of the reasons that I dislike young people of America.
And wtf does seeing a lot of cops on road at 2am have to do with what race you are??? Its statistically proven that more crime and accidents happens after 1am. I drive around late at night and see a bunch of cops I say "hey, there are a lot of cops out" not "hey im a minority, they must be after me."Also, minorities tend to be targeted more than whites (I droved down tara blvd. one night around 2am and was amazed by the amount of cops that where out).
A LOT of the cops here are non-caucasian, i dont believe "they"(whichever race) profile. If you get pulled over you have done something wrong or have faulty equipment. Judging by what people drive on IA I could see them getting pulled over often.
I absolutely love this guy. It is 100% correct where I live.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w
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W/e though can't believe I got myself tied up into this Black vs White thing. In the end I could care less what you think really.. Your not going to change my views on things as well as I. So might as well end this discussion. I'm hitting the bed got more important things to do tommorow.
PLEASE IGNORE MR. KIDD HE OFTEN GOES ON AND ON ABOUT THINGS THAT HE REALLY DOESNT KNOW ABOUT...
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/jailrace.htm
in that link you will have plenty of data and numbers by the department of justice..
Again just like TigerJC you only post what you want to see, not the real story.
GO read those statistic you just posted.
DId i say every jail has more black inmates that white? NO. So Gwinette county Jail upholds your arguement.
Jesus, you guys make me laugh lol.
I dont know what im talking about? my statistics come from YOUR LINK LOL
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm
The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
-- black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)
-- black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)
Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.
# Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for
-- men (11.3%) than for women (1.8%)
-- blacks (18.6%) and Hispanics (10%) than for whites (3.4%)
# More than 6 in 10 persons in local jails in 2002 were racial or ethnic minorities, unchanged from 1996.
# An estimated 40% were black; 19%, Hispanic, 1% American Indian; 1% Asian; and 3% of more than one race/ethnicity.
You just agreed with me, thanks!
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OK so now i see you cant understand what your pasting... The facts, in the charts...vs. what was expected... And on the chart it was only
do you know the difference between expectancy and actual inmates?
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/jails.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...ailracetab.htm
i dont think you understand what you are pasting
Blacks were almost three times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.
Do you understand the term MINORITY?
I guess you are trying to refute the part i said about 2/3 the population being black, well so its not 66% my fault, i was off on that 1 number, but he rest of my facts are correct.
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that chart is incarciration rates...i posted about the population of the jails..from the years has more whites, and has incresed..over the years.. which is what you were babbling about. Population, the incarciration rate is higher for blacks, but the population of the jail is higher for whites..and is increasing quicker.i dont think you understand what you are pasting
Blacks were almost three times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.
Do you understand the term MINORITY?
I guess you are trying to refute the part i said about 2/3 the population being black, well so its not 66% my fault, i was off on that 1 number, but he rest of my facts are correct.
Ok lets try this again.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERM MINORTIY?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERM MAJORITY?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A RATIO IS?
If so, reread my previous posts. if not, then continue posting facts that are BACKING ME UP.
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Why not bring the thread back on topic, it wasn't a black vs white that was brought up in the OP. I do have a question for the Obama supporters in the thread, how can you be ok with the FACT that he has shown multiple times that he doesn't believe in the country? Look at the flag pin issue, even if you over look that one, we come upon the not saying the pledge....come on. If the man is aspiring to lead this country, how can he do so without believing in it and participating in it? Even if you don't believe in the "words" of the pledge can't you at least participate to show your respect for the ideals behind the words? I personaly don't care what religon his father was, something about Obama as a person strikes me the wrong way. He has no military service experience, affiliation with a church that no one can deny has had a very racist message being broadcast by its preacher, and a sketchy at best voting record...thats not someone I'd want to lead me and my country. Kidd does make a good point that one of the main factors why he seems to be a strong contender is the fact he is black. His messages he broadcasts aren't new or revolutionary, in reality it's a pot luck of many things ppl before him have said.
I couldnt agree with you more. +1
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