Fair Tax

[Jaimecbr900]

There are many many inconsistencies to argument against a Fair Tax that I'm not sure where to begin.

I will begin however with the mention of the fact that everyone would receive 100% of their pay vs 70-75% as we all are now. There's your 23% right there already.

I will also mention what the naysayers fail to mention that the proposal includes a provision for the GOV'T to cut EVERYONE checks for the ESSENTIALS that they will need to SURVIVE. In other words, the ole "poor people will suffer" argument doesn't hold water because they will get a credit check each month for NECESSITIES such as food and medicine in order to MAINTAIN their current state. So again, you get 100% of your money, no giving the gov't an automatic 20-30%, and the GOV'T pays YOU for the essential necessities such as food and medicine. How much exactly is it that all of us get for food and medicine NOW????? .......While they STILL GET 30% of our income?????

I also will mention that there are MILLIONS of people that pay ZERO taxes NOW. I'll repeat that for those that weren't paying attention.......THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT PAY ZERO TAXES NOW, THAT WILL BE PAYING UNDER THE PROPOSED FAIR TAX. Now, explain or refute how THAT tid bit alone will not generate MORE revenue to run this country. So, people that NOW skirt around PAYING ANYTHING (all of which USE atleast one and often times many of the services that are FUNDED by TAX DOLLARS NOW) will have NO WAY of eluding payment under the FAIR TAX. How can anyone with any common sense not see that would generate BILLIONS of dollars that we DON'T even see NOW. It no longer will matter if you get paid "on the books" or "under the table". Who cares? You WILL pay YOUR FAIR share when you SPEND the money. Don't spend??....then KEEP all your money. What's wrong with that?

The only people that oppose the Fair Tax are usually the people that either A: don't understand it, B: Think they understand it, but really don't, or C: Don't want their perceived benefits "gone" .

The Fair Tax proposal gives PEOPLE more power over the GOV'T again. How? By allowing the PEOPLE to dictate how much of their hard earned pay goes back to the GOV'T. How? Easy. PEOPLE will be in far more control of their GOV'T, much as they control the Economy. When things are going good, then people will SPEND their money (i.e. revenue for the GOV'T). When they're not so good, then you will hoard your money (i.e. less revenue for the GOV'T.....i.e. they better get their stuff together and MAKE YOU HAPPY AGAIN so you can start spending money so they can get their money so we can start the whole ferris wheel again). Follow that? Think about it. It's a kind of checks and balances that this country was founded on. If the GOV'T, who is representing you, doesn't do a good job......you don't give them YOUR money......How sweet is that? You work, you keep the bulk of your money for YOURSELF for when YOU feel like spending it on the things YOU feel like spending thereby indirectly funding the GOV'T. So WHO is control now???? Why do you think that the CURRENT GOV'T is NOT jumping all over this??? It shrinks HUGE GOV'T agencies like the IRS. They would no longer be needed. How much savings is in just that???

People are quick to say, "23% OMG that's high", when they don't even stop to think how much they pay NOW......


I'll damn sure take 23% over what I'm paying NOW. Add up and see how much YOU are paying now. Better yet, look at your W2 from last year. Think about it using simplified math terms. Would you rather PAY 30% of your check or get the whole thing and pay 23% on the things YOU CHOOSE to buy for YOURSELF????? What exactly are you GETTING for your 30% NOW????? I'm not getting squat, are you?

[Leadfoot_mf]

There are many many inconsistencies to argument against a Fair Tax that I'm not sure where to begin.

I will begin however with the mention of the fact that everyone would receive 100% of their pay vs 70-75% as we all are now. There's your 23% right there already.

I will also mention what the naysayers fail to mention that the proposal includes a provision for the GOV'T to cut EVERYONE checks for the ESSENTIALS that they will need to SURVIVE. In other words, the ole "poor people will suffer" argument doesn't hold water because they will get a credit check each month for NECESSITIES such as food and medicine in order to MAINTAIN their current state. So again, you get 100% of your money, no giving the gov't an automatic 20-30%, and the GOV'T pays YOU for the essential necessities such as food and medicine. How much exactly is it that all of us get for food and medicine NOW????? .......While they STILL GET 30% of our income?????

I also will mention that there are MILLIONS of people that pay ZERO taxes NOW. I'll repeat that for those that weren't paying attention.......THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT PAY ZERO TAXES NOW, THAT WILL BE PAYING UNDER THE PROPOSED FAIR TAX. Now, explain or refute how THAT tid bit alone will not generate MORE revenue to run this country. So, people that NOW skirt around PAYING ANYTHING (all of which USE atleast one and often times many of the services that are FUNDED by TAX DOLLARS NOW) will have NO WAY of eluding payment under the FAIR TAX. How can anyone with any common sense not see that would generate BILLIONS of dollars that we DON'T even see NOW. It no longer will matter if you get paid "on the books" or "under the table". Who cares? You WILL pay YOUR FAIR share when you SPEND the money. Don't spend??....then KEEP all your money. What's wrong with that?

The only people that oppose the Fair Tax are usually the people that either A: don't understand it, B: Think they understand it, but really don't, or C: Don't want their perceived benefits "gone" .

The Fair Tax proposal gives PEOPLE more power over the GOV'T again. How? By allowing the PEOPLE to dictate how much of their hard earned pay goes back to the GOV'T. How? Easy. PEOPLE will be in far more control of their GOV'T, much as they control the Economy. When things are going good, then people will SPEND their money (i.e. revenue for the GOV'T). When they're not so good, then you will hoard your money (i.e. less revenue for the GOV'T.....i.e. they better get their stuff together and MAKE YOU HAPPY AGAIN so you can start spending money so they can get their money so we can start the whole ferris wheel again). Follow that? Think about it. It's a kind of checks and balances that this country was founded on. If the GOV'T, who is representing you, doesn't do a good job......you don't give them YOUR money......How sweet is that? You work, you keep the bulk of your money for YOURSELF for when YOU feel like spending it on the things YOU feel like spending thereby indirectly funding the GOV'T. So WHO is control now???? Why do you think that the CURRENT GOV'T is NOT jumping all over this??? It shrinks HUGE GOV'T agencies like the IRS. They would no longer be needed. How much savings is in just that???

People are quick to say, "23% OMG that's high", when they don't even stop to think how much they pay NOW......


I'll damn sure take 23% over what I'm paying NOW. Add up and see how much YOU are paying now. Better yet, look at your W2 from last year. Think about it using simplified math terms. Would you rather PAY 30% of your check or get the whole thing and pay 23% on the things YOU CHOOSE to buy for YOURSELF????? What exactly are you GETTING for your 30% NOW????? I'm not getting squat, are you?

thank you. bump for intelligence.

[ISAtlanta300]

The Fair Tax proposal gives PEOPLE more power over the GOV'T again. How? By allowing the PEOPLE to dictate how much of their hard earned pay goes back to the GOV'T. How? Easy. PEOPLE will be in far more control of their GOV'T, much as they control the Economy. When things are going good, then people will SPEND their money (i.e. revenue for the GOV'T). When they're not so good, then you will hoard your money (i.e. less revenue for the GOV'T.....i.e. they better get their stuff together and MAKE YOU HAPPY AGAIN so you can start spending money so they can get their money so we can start the whole ferris wheel again). Follow that? Think about it. It's a kind of checks and balances that this country was founded on. If the GOV'T, who is representing you, doesn't do a good job......you don't give them YOUR money......How sweet is that? You work, you keep the bulk of your money for YOURSELF for when YOU feel like spending it on the things YOU feel like spending thereby indirectly funding the GOV'T. So WHO is control now????

Maybe you're right, but i don't think the government would give two lick to make YOU happy again so that you can start spending.. you would STILL have to clothe your back, pay your shelter, fill your gas tank, fill your belly, drink your water, pay your light, gas etc etc. whether things are good or not... and the government will still get taxes from that. Besides, you would probably hurt retail businesses first. It's not like you can just sit on your pile of money and hoard it and not spend a penny. for example, it's not like the increased gas prices nowadays have made many people drive that much less......