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    lol i'm just on the edge, j. still on the fence of "built" b20 or "built b20vtec". I've ridden in a b20vtec, so I know exactly how that feels. It's just kinda hard to get an idea of how a midly build b20nonvtec would feel like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa_Smurf View Post
    lol i'm just on the edge, j. still on the fence of "built" b20 or "built b20vtec". I've ridden in a b20vtec, so I know exactly how that feels. It's just kinda hard to get an idea of how a midly build b20nonvtec would feel like.
    1) you need to be honest with yourself - how much time are you ACTUALLY racing. If the answer is "not too often" then a "fully-built" ANYTHING is prob not in the cards for you.

    2) how much $$ do you wanna put into this. Pay YOURSELF 1st (savings), take care of REAL shit (home / lady / fam) THEN play with cars.

    3) you need to realize that a car is the WORST place to put a lot of money - horsepower breaks stuff - PERIOD - or 1 crash and theft and you're at 0. THIS HAS TO BE OKAY and UNDERSTOOD by you. If not - wrong scene sorry to tell you.

    4) If your car blew an engine RIGHT NOW ... what would you do? If you don't have the means financially to still make it to work tomorrow... tread softly. You're prob some1 who should be an "occasional participant" to the performance side of this automotive sector. Nothing wrong with that.

    5) If you want a CHEAP solution w/out all of the algebra and calculous then a small wet shot on a bolt-on healthy block - you will rape 70% of the people you encounter through a) suprise (they took you for granted) or b) performance... either way, you win. Guess what... tuned 75 wet shot on a stock LS CRUSHES most 200hp N/A motors (w/ the right driver/tire/gear). You'll be down on HP by comparison, but you'll CRUSH them in TQ production. What little HP/TQ you do make, you'll make it NOW not later. That's $300 and you're in the game. NITROUS IS THE BIG EQUALIZER --- PERIOD.

    --- Finally... don't do random sir. PLAN IT OUT. Execute it one step at a time. Don't blow an oil pump w/out doing a nice HG and head studs when you replace it - etc. People double their work/costs a lot due to poor planning. WRITE IT DOWN ON PAPER... you can make all the mistakes you want to on paper and it won't cost you any $$... those are FREE mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J View Post
    1) you need to be honest with yourself - how much time are you ACTUALLY racing. If the answer is "not too often" then a "fully-built" ANYTHING is prob not in the cards for you.

    2) how much $$ do you wanna put into this. Pay YOURSELF 1st (savings), take care of REAL shit (home / lady / fam) THEN play with cars.

    3) you need to realize that a car is the WORST place to put a lot of money - horsepower breaks stuff - PERIOD - or 1 crash and theft and you're at 0. THIS HAS TO BE OKAY and UNDERSTOOD by you. If not - wrong scene sorry to tell you.

    4) If your car blew an engine RIGHT NOW ... what would you do? If you don't have the means financially to still make it to work tomorrow... tread softly. You're prob some1 who should be an "occasional participant" to the performance side of this automotive sector. Nothing wrong with that.

    5) If you want a CHEAP solution w/out all of the algebra and calculous then a small wet shot on a bolt-on healthy block - you will rape 70% of the people you encounter through a) suprise (they took you for granted) or b) performance... either way, you win. Guess what... tuned 75 wet shot on a stock LS CRUSHES most 200hp N/A motors (w/ the right driver/tire/gear). You'll be down on HP by comparison, but you'll CRUSH them in TQ production. What little HP/TQ you do make, you'll make it NOW not later. That's $300 and you're in the game. NITROUS IS THE BIG EQUALIZER --- PERIOD.

    --- Finally... don't do random sir. PLAN IT OUT. Execute it one step at a time. Don't blow an oil pump w/out doing a nice HG and head studs when you replace it - etc. People double their work/costs a lot due to poor planning. WRITE IT DOWN ON PAPER... you can make all the mistakes you want to on paper and it won't cost you any $$... those are FREE mistakes.

    Good luck.

    dude you are the shit!!! say the things the way it is and dont take any prisioners with you. explain things to detail and help others with their stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotor-teg View Post
    dude you are the shit!!! say the things the way it is and dont take any prisioners with you. explain things to detail and help others with their stuff
    agree, just soaking all this info

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCLUE View Post
    agree, just soaking all this info
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    yea same here, learning from somone that knows his stuff.

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