cant go wrong with skunk2 pro series. Also to big of a cam and not enough compression could result in a power lose.
cant go wrong with skunk2 pro series. Also to big of a cam and not enough compression could result in a power lose.
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yeah I know...thats why I am going to put a gsr head and a thiner head gasket the stock b16a2 is 10:4Originally Posted by allmotorX
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^^ nuff saidOriginally Posted by allmotorX
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I appreciate you guys info but no one has answered my question yet about what cam has a power band all the way till 9200rpm-9500rpm
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Pretty much all depends on your setup in order to find that out you would have to experiment with different cams, or look around for different setups.Originally Posted by NosVette
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Originally Posted by allmotorX
Ive seen some crazy things!!!! My Ls/vtec setup needs some cams and I am undecided. I made 181/130... I saw a bone stock Type R (01) with a kid racing header and just a lil tune make 196-197. and then he put the pro 1s and made 201 and lost 1 in trq
... I thought to myself 4-5hp over stock and a loss of 1 in trq?? is it worth 3-5hundred dollars for that. I just cant see my self paying that much for such a lil gain. BUT THEN AGAIN IT VARIES!!! TRIAL AN ERROR IS A BITCH!!!!! So with that being said good luck. Im just thinkin about doing ITR cams and call it day.
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Lil james you my boy and all, but come on man i thought i taught you better than this.Originally Posted by SoLJames95
It is crazy to think all these people thought i was going to pick up 20whp from cams , intake manny, and TB. My car with a STOCK ITR motor and a header made 196whp. Thats A LOT OF POWER out of a stock motor. Prob the highest i have ever seen or close to it.
Then i put cams in, and everyone was like "OMG YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE 220whp!!!"
Think about it logically. A 1.8L Honda motor, i think the most hp i have ever seen out of one was 205-206. Stock bottom end, i think 202whp is the highest i have ever seen.
You get to the point where the motor can only support so much HP, doesnt matter what cam, header ,etc you have in it. Bigger doesnt always =more power.
PRo1s are a great cam, but i knew (and charles/james can confirm this) that if i gained 5whp id be happy. I KNEW i wasnt going to pick up a ton of power because my motor was already pretty much at its limit.
Take a B16, if it is COMPLETELY stock it makes 135whp. With a header and some ITR cams, 155whp. Do you think if you put a PRO3 cam in it (biggest cam on the market) its going to make 175? 185? Why?
Because a 1.6L cant flow enough air and cant generate enough cylinder pressure to take advantage of the big cam.
So what makes you think an ITR engine making big power already, is going to make tons more with a bigger cam?
just doesnt happen, sorry. I did the cams for 3 reasons
1) It was free
2) Now i have valvetrain to i can rev to 9500 without fear of dropping or floating a valve
3) If i ever do decide to go to a 2.0l bottom end, i have everything i need to make 220whp
I also did something that peak numbers dont tell you, i extended my power ban 600-700 RPMs, which means i can stay in gear longer, and rev it higher, and fall back into a higher power arean when i shift.
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Originally Posted by NosVette
I doubt you would even make power up with basically a stock c/r b16. Even though you're changing heads and using a thinner head gasket, the c/r gain is not significant. With that being said, I wouldn't get past a skunk2 stg2 cam unless you plan on building the bottom-end.![]()
okay I threw away my gsr head option and bought some brand new oem ctr pistons from my buddy im guessing my c/r will be good enough for a high rpm setup.Any info on the blox type c cams they look pretty good anybody tried them before?Originally Posted by bigdare23
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Compression isnt the problem, its displacement. Compression is only part of the equation.Originally Posted by NosVette
Go read my NA FAQ thread
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for what you are doing, nothing.Originally Posted by NosVette
B16s lack the airflow, compression, displacement to carry power that deep in the powerband.
You would have to have a retarded ported head,big compression, big cam. Which in a b16 is pointless. Why do all that work to make 105ft/lbs of tQ.
YOu need to tell us what you are trying to do first and what your goals are, but i can almost never think of a time to build a b16. They just arent worth it. Its a good starter motor, but its not something to build , never has been.
I recommend the PRO Skunk camshafts, they have never done me wrong.
Toda for what you pay and the power results, are junk.
Buddy Club cams are decent
Crower is garbage
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I didnt even throw you out like that... lol i didnt drop any names, thats why I stated DEPENDS ON SETUP!!!! You didnt have to come in here and throw your motor into the equation.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
I love you mike> NO HOMO...
BTW I made 130 in TRQ with my b16................ Granted it was an LS/Vtec setup
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