they are cheap for a reason. jsut remember that. if they could provide you with the same safety as the more expensive ones, you would see pro racers with them in their cars.
if you jsut want to buy something, and you want some harnesses, and you arent racing, sure, they will be as good (if installed correctly) as manufacturers.
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
They aren't safe on the street or the track. They are made very cheep. Only thing they are good for is autocross as being held in is important, and the likely hood of hitting or rolling is 1 in a million.
You can find nice harnesses used for $100 all day long, REAL harnesses. For racers they have an expiration date for competition, that doesn't mean they are not safe or worn out. They are great for people like you, track day drivers, etc to buy.
at first i was trying to see if there were some Takata ones for sale that were cheap but then i saw the cheap ones and i was wondering why they were that cheapOriginally Posted by simontibbett
good thing i didn't buy them
ANY harness in a car without a roll bar or roll cage is dumb. Period.
You roll over or get t-boned hard you are roadkill. Ordinary seat belts allow a certain amount of freedom so you aren't 100% stationary in the event of an accident, a harness doesn't allow that movement and you are a sitting duck waiting to get squished.
thanks for the info man
i look to see if i can find some stock replacement ones
Why do you need new seat belts? If there is a issue with the original seat belts then dealer's are required to replace them FREE of charge, no questions asked and no matter the age of the car.
its not that i HAVE to change them or anytihng but im trying to "rebuild" my car on the inside if you know what i mean
what they replace them for FREE?
I have never heard of that
i searched the site and don't see anything. I would really to see this info if you can find it.
Cause i dont believe it and no one in my dealership has heard of mandatory seatbelt replacement.
Last edited by EP3sAreFun; 01-20-2009 at 03:12 PM.
Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
Actually, most modern seat belts are designed to keep you pinned to your seat. They even come with belt tensioner's that will take up slack(usually about 6") and lock within a fraction of a second upon impact.
Modern cars rely on crush zones(in conjunction with steel framework) to absorb the majority of the shock caused by an accident. The seat belt is designed to keep you stationary and the air bags are designed to fill the space between the dash or steering wheel and the passenger(s).
Inertia wheels lock the belt then in some newer cars & older high end ones are equipped with pretensioners that physically pull the belt tight by using the same sensors as airbags.
...BUT you're still not completely 100% stationary with an ordinary safety belt like you would be in a harness. You rollover or get hit in the side with a roll cage using a regular 3-point safety belt you will most likely hit the roll cage unless the seat wraps around your head. Look at the majority of the roll over crash test video's, majority of the dummy's hit the roof/pillar with a 3-point safety belt.
IIRC Most harnesses can be sent back to the original manufacture for re-certification if they are out of date and remain in good condition.
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