SRT-4 vs. Mazdaspeed 3

[3.5altman]

i heard to many horror story's about wrx trannys, srt-4's are played out, so mazdaspeed6 it is! the mazda seems like its built better then the srt also. just my 2 cents

[chituntang]

MS3 FTW!!! We all need a car that can turn!!!

[SandM]

evo ftw...... its not a choice, but if i were looking in that price range/engine style, id choose the evo to dominate all aspects of driving....

[Mayniac]

I would go with the Mazdaspeed 3, better interior, looks better IMO, and its not a Neon.
SRT-4's can be made quick real easily. Not so sure about the MS3, haven't seen or heard of any of them being heavily modded. Just like all turbo cars, im sure it can be made fast with upgraded turbo, and supporting mods.

I would test drive both if I was you.

[iEvo]

srt4 ftw......u cant do sh!t to a mazdaspeed

[Mayniac]

u cant do sh!t to a mazdaspeed

Says who?

[JITB]

srt4 ftw......u cant do sh!t to a mazdaspeed

i have herd the car has alot of electronics that limit it, but that is for driveability puposes, it hasnt been out long enough yet. for all that stuff to be worked out yet. The car has too many good attributes to not have any aftermarket.

[kfzemx3]

i have herd the car has alot of electronics that limit it, but that is for driveability puposes, it hasnt been out long enough yet. for all that stuff to be worked out yet. The car has too many good attributes to not have any aftermarket.

Agreed And considering this is the same motor that mazda is using now for racing instead of the rotories since they were recently banned, i see a lot of potential for this car in the years to come

[Siverprobegt]

Agreed And considering this is the same motor that mazda is using now for racing instead of the rotories since they were recently banned, i see a lot of potential for this car in the years to come

Why were they banned!!!

[kfzemx3]

Why were they banned!!!

well they were basically unbeatable, plus people started complaining because they weren't piston motors. i mean i understand, but i think the same should be done to audi and there diesel motor.

[Mayniac]

Seriously, which one would you guys take? On looks alone.

Here is a stock SRT-4 ---- BORING



And here is a MS3 with rims ---- ALOT BETTER

[JITB]

Seriously, which one would you guys take? On looks alone.

Here is a stock SRT-4 ---- BORING



And here is a MS3 with rims ---- ALOT BETTER

That pic of the ms3 is with the Optional Light weight wheels that are supposed to be released.. i believe!

[Mayniac]

That pic of the ms3 is with the Optional Light weight wheels that are supposed to be released.. i believe!

If thats true, they makes it look really NICE!

[JITB]

If thats true, they makes it look really NICE!

i think it might be, i just saw a video on you tube with the same wheels..

[hXc007]

me personally, i prefer the neon srt-4

they look pretty cool (except for the ugly ass stock wheels) and sound mean as **** modded (like tiny high mpg muscle cars lol)

[Ericp]

/\/\/\ says the guy that drives a civic cause those are so cool.....

Seriously, which one would you guys take? On looks alone.

Here is a stock SRT-4 ---- BORING



And here is a MS3 with rims ---- ALOT BETTER

I agree, the srt doesn't look like much stock. That's an old picture by the way, not the wheels the srt came with both close enough.

To me the MS3 looks like a goofy little mini van, but is still a nice car and are quick from factory.


But if looks are a problem, just like any car, you can do things to make it look better. Here are just a small few pics

[JITB]

/\/\/\ says the guy that drives a civic cause those are so cool.....




I agree, the srt doesn't look like much stock. That's an old picture by the way, not the wheels the srt came with both close enough.

To me the MS3 looks like a goofy little mini van, but is still a nice car and are quick from factory.


But if looks are a problem, just like any car, you can do things to make it look better. Here are just a small few pics

cheater....nice pics tho!

[Mayniac]

I agree, the srt doesn't look like much stock. That's an old picture by the way, not the wheels the srt came with both close enough.

To me the MS3 looks like a goofy little mini van, but is still a nice car and are quick from factory.


But if looks are a problem, just like any car, you can do things to make it look better. Here are just a small few pics

Damn, those look sexy as hell! =( Oops =D

[Turbo04]

I liked the power my SRT had, I made ungodly amounts of TQ, but the trade off is how much do you like 17-19mpg? Maybe if mopar would've come out with a kit to catch all the unburnt gas coming outta the tail, then I might have kept it. I kinda like the MS3, but I still woulnd't buy that either. I'm kinda outta my boy racer stage.....

[Member31410]

I liked the power my SRT had, I made ungodly amounts of TQ, but the trade off is how much do you like 17-19mpg? Maybe if mopar would've come out with a kit to catch all the unburnt gas coming outta the tail, then I might have kept it. I kinda like the MS3, but I still woulnd't buy that either. I'm kinda outta my boy racer stage.....

The worst recorded tank of gas on my car was 21 mpg. The best was 33.2 mpg. I average 24-26 mpg driving around and on highways, I average 29-31 mpg. This is on a Mopar Stage 3 car untuned that has hit an 11.9 at the drag strip and has trapped up to 120 mph. This is also with no weight reduction on the car.

[Turbo04]

The worst recorded tank of gas on my car was 21 mpg. The best was 33.2 mpg. I average 24-26 mpg driving around and on highways, I average 29-31 mpg. This is on a Mopar Stage 3 car untuned that has hit an 11.9 at the drag strip and has trapped up to 120 mph. This is also with no weight reduction on the car.

Whats the city only milege? I'm tooling around now average 32 in the city only, 40+ on the interstate with the mini. Not always going easy on her either. Untuned stage 3 car isn't quite right a description, if it's just a stg 3 kit, it's got the factory tune already on the PCM, which the also tuned for a decent gas milege. Also was that milege you said using the dial-a-boost?

[Member31410]

Whats the city only milege? I'm tooling around now average 32 in the city only, 40+ on the interstate with the mini. Not always going easy on her either. Untuned stage 3 car isn't quite right a description, if it's just a stg 3 kit, it's got the factory tune already on the PCM, which the also tuned for a decent gas milege. Also was that milege you said using the dial-a-boost?

In my case, there isn't a thing such as city only milage. My work commute takes around 25 miles one way from one county to another. I use Hwy 316 to and from work. If you are not familiar with that highway, it is loaded with traffic lights and traffic is bad during the day. At night though, it is smooth sailing for me.

As for the DAB (Dial-A-Boost) settings, from what I have experimented in my car, I get the same fuel economy regardless of the setting while driving around town so I have it set to almost always at DAB 3. On road trips though, I have noticed up to two more miles per gallon while on DAB 0 but who knows, maybe it might be because I'm easier on the throttle since I know I'm on lower boost. BTW the DAB feature only affects boost during wide open throttle. The 33.2 mpg best that I recorded was on DAB 0.

As you have said, my car is sending out "unburnt gas outta the tail" too. All the Mopar stage kits are set pig rich from the factory including the stage 3 kits. My AFR goes off the chart everytime I dyno. Yeah I could get a piggy back and tune the car for more power and get better fuel economy but I'm totally fine with the S3 kit as is.

[2turbo4u]

MS3 cause it looks better, a get navi,h.id's from factory. The neon looks like a four door bug(insect) driving around. Even when they're drop they still have mad fist gap between the fenders.

[SEAN]

I went to look at the new 3's at Rick Case about a year ago...they didn't have any yet and after looking at the Evo's I came across a SRT-4 they just pulled around on the lot...my friend has had 2 and I never felt slow with my old Tiburon till the day I went on a spirited drive with him...no comparison...I swore if I could find one with low miles I might get one...I did...23K and up for a Mazdaspeed 3...32K and up for an Evo...made my decision pretty easy for the NEON...17K...I like the 3's but they have little after market support and still are a station wagon...with mods even a SRT-4 can be made to look better...no regrets...peeps will always hate it because it is a Neon...whatever...

before...pic the day I picked up my car...



after...how it looks now...

[GTScoob]

Mazdaspeed 3 for sure over the SRT-4. Much higher caliber of a car (no pun intended), nicer interior, better exterior. Overall better quality of construction. I have heard that tuning the MS3s is a ***** but thats just because its a new platform and people need time to break the OEM code.

[Ericp]

Mazdaspeed 3 for sure over the SRT-4. Much higher caliber of a car (no pun intended), nicer interior, better exterior. Overall better quality of construction. I have heard that tuning the MS3s is a ***** but thats just because its a new platform and people need time to break the OEM code.

How exactly do you think the build quality is on the SRT-4? I don't know anything personally about the MS3 besides the basics. I've never owned one so I don't see how I could give my opinion on the build quality of it. So please enlighten me on your knowledge of the SRT-4

[JITB]

ive owned 2 neons, and have been aroudn a few of friends neons... and i will agree, that quality is in the share of mazda.. neons are made to be low cost cars....From what i gathered the srt4 isnt any different, its the same chassis since 95.. im sure ethings have gotten better, but im sure alot of things are the same. motor/tranny are solid its been proven. it has alot of capability. but as far as stuff you wish it had...the MS3 does have. ive never owned a 3, but i have owned plenty of mazda built cars. all mazdaspeed cars have had a great aftermarket, its just not as known.

truthfully, the 2 arent really being compared, the real battle is between the caliber srt4, and the Ms3.. ms3 has already been marked higher than the neon srt4...

[MS3ZZ]

ms3. Im little biased because i own ms3 but when i bought this car, i wanted a car that had little bit of everything. I looked at wrx as well as civic si and gti. WRX was quick, i loved the styling and the sound of mean boxer engine but interior was lacking and to me, awd in georgia is not really needed.. more of bragging right to me. Civic was nice but little slower than what i wanted. Had a hard time between GTI and MS3 but after the test drive, i coudnt really care about about superior interior quality of GTI over ms3.
Overall, ms3 was quick, practical, and had decent creature comfort. For the money, you cant beat this car imo.

[JBalla1036]

MS3 cause at the end of the day the SRT-4 is still a dodge FTL!!!!

[atlxpat]

stock for stock, MS3 has more hp and tq, better handling and better interior. i heard it torque steers like a mofo though.
if it were awd i'd consider trading in the subie for it, that interior really gets to me

[Oz10]

I would rather have the mazdaspeed 3 too. I just really like those cars.

[takume]

I pick ms3 coz it handle much better than srt4 which can only go fast on a straight way. BTW, the interior of the SRT4 is fxxx compare to ms3.