turbo civic putting in work

[1civic]

That's fast, but trap speed seems low but with 1.8 60 I can see that. Especially with the car weight.

Must have been really good tires. I tried everything from 2000-8000 rpms and it did not matter I couldn't cut anything faster than a 2.2 that night.

I think the fastest chunky got was a 2.1 and the import xpert cars barely got 2.0

Treadwear was like 140, Brigdestone tires.. Better night for Commerce since some 10.5 cars where there...LOL HEHE

[Vteckidd]

Treadwear was like 140, Brigdestone tires.. Better night for Commerce since some 10.5 cars where there...LOL HEHE

You know I've heard the best day to go to commerce is the weekend before a v8 race or when you know a ton of v8s are going to be there. Free VHT

[1civic]

You know I've heard the best day to go to commerce is the weekend before a v8 race or when you know a ton of v8s are going to be there. Free VHT

Yes, TNT before the NHRA stuff, V8 guys know the days, used to be the snap-on track days I think.. They work the track much better!! Really a waste of VHT when it's only 14sec cars on street tires racing..

[1civic]

"this one time at band camp, i stuck a flute in my pussy"









EDIT:
Random quote from American Pie!!

[DarKStaR]

ooo ooo can i get in on this argument....i went 13.9@100 on street tires 2500lbs car with 170whp........

[DarKStaR]

ooo ooo can i get in on this argument....i went 13.9@100 on street tires 2500lbs car with 170whp........

[Vteckidd]

ooo ooo can i get in on this argument....i went 13.9@100 on street tires 2500lbs car with 170whp........

60ft ?

At commerce?

I would believe that.

[DarKStaR]

60ft ?

At commerce?

I would believe that.

2.2 at SDR, i actually did that with 166whp, and added a few things to make it 175whp and was consistant 13.9s and could pull it with only a 97mph trap

[Moseley]

Since we're talking shit about track times... I think it is hilarious how people tried to say that when Luis owned the hatch before me that it wasn't very fast. When I bought it from him, I did nothing but bolt on some slicks. Then went to commerce and ran a 12.3 @ 111 on the very first pass.

The thing is the car has been nearly that fast all along. Just a few tweaks here and there. From day 1 (november '06) I bet it would have done a 12.5 or 12.6 on slicks.

[Vteckidd]

I'm not saying you aren't capable, or it didn't happen, or your car wasn't capable etc.

I'm saying you had a good night. The night I was at commerce you would NOT have run that fast. Ivans h2b ran a low 13 on drag radials but it was at silver dollar . Every other track seems to favor NA hondas more than commerce.

I can name 20 people who had cars weight power same as us an none ran that fast on street tires.

Black r type r EF
MY itr Crx
Johnzm gsr Crx
Kevin lsvtec Crx
Chunky
Kierans 200whp dc2
William balou gsr 185whp b16 cx eg
Spoolin driving my car
My 188whp Crx

Are you telling me ALL those guys are just horrible drivers, even though our 60ft and ET are all identical to yours?

Come on even you can see my point

[1civic]

Since we're talking shit about track times... I think it is hilarious how people tried to say that when Luis owned the hatch before me that it wasn't very fast. When I bought it from him, I did nothing but bolt on some slicks. Then went to commerce and ran a 12.3 @ 111 on the very first pass.

The thing is the car has been nearly that fast all along. Just a few tweaks here and there. From day 1 (november '06) I bet it would have done a 12.5 or 12.6 on slicks.

It don't matter what it runs, I'm going bust dat ass again with new owner!!

[Vteckidd]

^^^^

Considering it ran a 12.3 with slicks I wonder what it ran without slicks. My itr Crx was not that much slower. But I don't have the tq or gearing Luis did.

Effiliated I said "with a bone stock motor"

If you ran it congrats, but again, something doesn't sound ride come on you can't be that fucking dense. To say "you can't drive" when I ran the EXACT SAME 1/4 you did is funny. The only difference is somehow you got .8 faster. I don't take 2 seconds to shift. I'm not a track driver but I'm also not that bad lol

Anyone wanna throw in their .02 I'm at a loss.

Darkstar SDR doesn't count. Any track outside commerce is automatically .2-.5 faster

[*EFilliated*]

do u know what ur 1/8th of a mile was? i and i was just talking shit about u not knowing how to drive. idk if u can or not. but back to the fact that there is witnesses u cant really argue with that period. i have no reason to lie, the people that know me know that i dnt BS when it comes to racing. and if i find the time slip when i go back home i will be glad to post it up.

^^^^

Considering it ran a 12.3 with slicks I wonder what it ran without slicks. My itr Crx was not that much slower. But I don't have the tq or gearing Luis did.

Effiliated I said "with a bone stock motor"

If you ran it congrats, but again, something doesn't sound ride come on you can't be that fucking dense. To say "you can't drive" when I ran the EXACT SAME 1/4 you did is funny. The only difference is somehow you got .8 faster. I don't take 2 seconds to shift. I'm not a track driver but I'm also not that bad lol

Anyone wanna throw in their .02 I'm at a loss.

Darkstar SDR doesn't count. Any track outside commerce is automatically .2-.5 faster

[91s13]

Back in the day i had a 97 civic ex coupe with a stock gsr swap. I/H/E and it weighed 2525 and it dynoed 148whp and the best I ever did was a 15.1 on street tires and that was at silver dollar. the best i did at commerce was a 15.7 on my very first time on the track

[1civic]

Back in the day i had a 97 civic ex coupe with a stock gsr swap. I/H/E and it weighed 2525 and it dynoed 148whp and the best I ever did was a 15.1 on street tires and that was at silver dollar. the best i did at commerce was a 15.7 on my very first time on the track

WOW, that car was a turtle!! My huffy went 15.0 with 2 ft power weighing 160lb!!! Geeeezzz...LOL

[91s13]

WOW, that car was a turtle!! My huffy went 15.0 with 2 ft power weighing 160lb!!! Geeeezzz...LOL

ran good on the street. street raced every weekend in it. it's slow for this day and time but then it was quick for what it was. trust me it got respect

[collins]

Another thing stretch, since you FINALLY reconized that "when in rome you have to do what the romans do", can u relay that to morris? cause he specifically said he will NEVER do roll races,but at the same time wants to "take out a few select cars". Well what if the "few select cars" want to do a roll race and not a dig on the streets with slicks?????

dig runs aint so bad

The Crx I'm talking about was from 09 buddy.

i remember that car. we ran up 75, remember? lol wasnt really a fair race tho. in your defense, that little red rice rocket did better than i thought it would haha

[Vteckidd]

dig runs aint so bad

i remember that car. we ran up 75, remember? lol wasnt really a fair race tho. in your defense, that little red rice rocket did better than i thought it would haha

Yeah it was a good run with your GTO haha I just wanted to run a v8

[1civic]

ran good on the street. street raced every weekend in it. it's slow for this day and time but then it was quick for what it was. trust me it got respect

True DAT, Any swap'd civic was quick back in the day!! LOL

[collins]

True DAT, Any swap'd civic was quick back in the day!! LOL

i dunno about that... my b20 swapped dc4 was slow as piss! lol
yeah, i knwo its not technically a civic, but close enough

[Vteckidd]

No need man I believe you. No reason to lie like to said. Trust me I'm not bragging when I say I ran 14s either lol

Sounds like it was a fast car at the track, thats why I hated going to the track. It was so frustrating and disappointing lol

[*EFilliated*]

lol, who u telling, i ran 13.4 on street tires then slapped on 23s and my first time on slicks i ran like a 14.6 lol . took me 8 passes to get it down, slicks are a whole diffrent ball game

No need man I believe you. No reason to lie like to said. Trust me I'm not bragging when I say I ran 14s either lol

Sounds like it was a fast car at the track, thats why I hated going to the track. It was so frustrating and disappointing lol

[Vteckidd]

What's not respectable is the fact it prob cost you $4000 to do a gsr swap just to run 15s lol Ahhhhhh the old days things were so much simpler

But yeah my first Crx made 188whp with a built gsr and it won a lot street racing but I think the best it ever made a track pass was 14.4. But I track it with 14in del sol wheels. It trapped 104 lol

I really do hate the track. And I always said it was a very humbling place for street racers to go. I alway have respect for guys who run good times cause I never could

[91s13]

What's not respectable is the fact it prob cost you $4000 to do a gsr swap just to run 15s lol Ahhhhhh the old days things were so much simpler

But yeah my first Crx made 188whp with a built gsr and it won a lot street racing but I think the best it ever made a track pass was 14.4. But I track it with 14in del sol wheels. It trapped 104 lol

I really do hate the track. And I always said it was a very humbling place for street racers to go. I alway have respect for guys who run good times cause I never could

it was a fun car to drive

[Vteckidd]

it was a fun car to drive

The best cars I ever owned were the simplest ones. They didn't make the most power but they were fun.

I absolutely loved my rhd Silvia that made 220whp and my rhd 180sx that made 230whp. Slow but so much fun

[collins]

yeah heard that lol. no worries man, that was back when i was broke as a joke and blew the b18 in it. had to have something quick! haha oh i miss that car tho... 15.0's and all lol

[h22 jones]

Honestly slicks dont always get you half a second in the quarter. Ten years ago i ran 13.5 with street tires and 13.5 with slicks . Either way the same time. With street tires i had to role off the line . With slicks i launched real hard .The difference is in oreder to hook the slicks i had to let enough air out to kill my trap with a stock h22 plus stock h22 gearing .Sure my 60 foots were higher but i lost 4mph trap in the quarter. I ran 13.5 with slicks with th f20b stock in a stock si hatch back heavy as fuck. Everybody has always hated on h22s since the old days when in reality the have always been the best bang for the buck. I either out run or it was tit for tat with my friends turbo gsr and turbo b16 with my bone stock h22 . They are a beast and with the h2b kit they are capable of 12.9 stock. So a 13.5 on street tires is very beleiveable with dropping half a second with slicks.

On the other hand dont act like it was that easy and you could go to every track and run them times because you know your wrong . You had problems getting the same times with slicks . It all takes practice and ive seen some cars that hook well not benifit one bit from slicks because they arnt making enough power to need them . On the other hand you take me were i had the car set up pretty good running decent times and change one thing and cant get the 22s to hook .

Mike is right the track is a whole different cup of tea then the street . I have preached this to gregg alos. Dont think because you beat somebody that your car will runa number at the track if you have never been. Its no that easy lol.

Thats one thing i liked about our car. if we decided to street race the car had great gearing for that and as long as we run 22 inch slicks we could put down decent times at the track . When you let 22-9 inch slicks down to 7-8 pounds of air at the track and launch at 6,000 rpms and cant get traction you have a well built h22 lol simple as that . I wish we could run a 11 second pass before the new car but no need in changing the whole set up now when we have another car. Also the only tires i have hooked enough to break axles is a set of 23inch drag radials lol who would of thought.

[112480]

Mike is right the track is a whole different cup of tea then the street . I have preached this to gregg alos. Dont think because you beat somebody that your car will runa number at the track if you have never been. Its no that easy lol.

Oh touche mike! And lets make that both way shell we? Just because you beat somebody in a DIG RUN ON THE STREETS ON FULL SLICKS, doesnt mean ur car is faster. Just means ur a better driver

[Vteckidd]

200whp CRX vs bolt on C5

[Vteckidd]

Pull to9000+

[Vteckidd]

vs collins GTO (i got killed haha)

[Vteckidd]

ok im done spamming

[Vteckidd]

Memories

[Moseley]

I wouldn't say that was whooping your ass. I think I got a very slight jump on you on the first two runs. like .1 second maybe. but it made a difference. And whomever said 3 beeps is lame... its no different than watching hands drop or watching a tree. I didn't go before the beep so that is all that matters.

Too bad the video of the 3rd run turned out to be bad. It was recorded from behind, and the camera wasn't focused. We went about the same time on that one and I had what maybe a half car on you at 100mph?

[112480]

I wouldn't say that was whooping your ass. I think I got a very slight jump on you on the first two runs. like .1 second maybe. but it made a difference. And whomever said 3 beeps is lame... its no different than watching hands drop or watching a tree. I didn't go before the beep so that is all that matters.

Too bad the video of the 3rd run turned out to be bad. It was recorded from behind, and the camera wasn't focused. We went about the same time on that one and I had what maybe a half car on you at 100mph?

Yea u did on the 3rd run cause i was revving a little higher than the first two and still wasnt at my "sweet spot" but i dont like bringing the 3rd run up b/c it sounds like i would be making excuses when u CLEARLY beat me all three runs

[112480]

and ACTUALLY moseley, power wise, u DID whoop my ass. lol! i made 32 more whp than you, oh sorry i MAKE 32whp more than you! LOL! I was to crunk at the time to realize the gearing difference between us thus leading to my demise. but i FINALLY took H22jones and Chunkys advice

[Vteckidd]

In the end it all comes down to who has a perfect run and who doesn't. Just like any competition. I ran 14s at the track but beat other cars that ran 13.0. My 2.0l beat cars that ran 12s but doesn't mean my car was a 12 second car cause it never did it.

So it goes both ways.

In the end just have a goal, have fun, don't get caught up in whp and scenarios or coulda shoulda woulda.

I know we all have ego and personalities but at tue end of the day regardless of the shit talking I hope everyone runs fast and gets what they want. So I hope midnight runs fast, I hope Bobby gets his car together, I hope Greg gets his motor or car back on the road, and I hope Mosely gets motivated to bring the 2.o out.

But most of all I hope disco monkey still kicks y'all ass

B>K :p

[112480]

But most of all I hope disco monkey still kicks y'all ass
B>K :p

God Dammit Mike! We'll see about that

[DarKStaR]

theres a few cars coming out that should run pretty good...

[Moseley]

Gregg here is why dyno #s can be really misleading. A dyno measures whp by how quickly your car spins up a drum in that particular gear. It does math based upon the speed and acceleration of the drum. So based upon the drum spinning up at X rate, it can compute power, but if the dyno gave back the raw numbers it is reading, we'd all be doing dyno runs in 1st gear and making 2000+lbs of torque. So the dyno does some math to guestimate how much power is actually be produced, based on the speed of the drum. So if you do a pull in 2nd gear, in theory it should give the same power numbers as it does in 4th. But it doesn't. because you're hanging axles, wheels, and tires, off of the tranny and a lower ratio effectively increases the losses from that additional weight. That is why a dyno will typically show you lower numbers in 1st and 2nd gear.

I said all of that just to say... if you were to take both of our cars and strap them on the dyno in 2nd gear. it would still show that you have a power advantage, because the dyno tries to eliminate gearing from the equation. but if you could see the RAW numbers being put to the ground by each of our cars in 2nd gear you'd see that there was no 32whp advantage