turbo civic putting in work

[justnprsh07]

It was all about nick, hince why it was together on the same line and the stretch and morris part was separate... But its funny how you got defensive about something you didnt know who it was about...

I thought you were trying to trade your setup for a 300+hp all motor setup? what happened with that? Did you get a new block from where you sank a sleeve on the dyno?

I wanted to and allmost traded my setup plus cash for hah2b's setup "fastest h2b period" but didnt so I started building my own and put my turbo car back together.... Its back in the carnow just waiting to go back to the dyno

[EmminoDaGreat]

sunk sleeve, ewwwwwwwwww

[h22 jones]

Justin has a very nice setup but as he has seen first hand the more power you make the more stuff you break.

Joey ran 11.1 so he wins that argument as to who has went faster .

I like nick,juston and joey hell im friends with all of them . Thats why im not going to bash nicks or justins car they have nice stuff butt it doesnt matter if you have a 100,000 thousand dollar car that doesnt gain you any bragging rights untill you have run the times simpile as that .

I would rather have the 500hp setup that jonathan ran 12.7 with then have a 800 (capable )hp car that i cant get tom make a pass.

like i said im friends with everybody and will do anything i can to help either of these three guys get and kept there shit running right but untill then there is no credability at all simple as that . I killed gregg about the same thing when he was key board racing his 300hp kseries that had never been even put together at the time . gregg did finaly get his car together and as everybody knows he blow up the board with his bragging rights lmao. Now lets get some cars together and ron some good times you guys have paid your dews figure out how get your shit right so you can enjoy it.

[justnprsh07]

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Justin has a very nice setup but as he has seen first hand the more power you make the more stuff you break.

Joey ran 11.1 so he wins that argument as to who has went faster .

I like nick,juston and joey hell im friends with all of them . Thats why im not going to bash nicks or justins car they have nice stuff butt it doesnt matter if you have a 100,000 thousand dollar car that doesnt gain you any bragging rights untill you have run the times simpile as that .

I would rather have the 500hp setup that jonathan ran 12.7 with then have a 800 (capable )hp car that i cant get tom make a pass.

like i said im friends with everybody and will do anything i can to help either of these three guys get and kept there shit running right but untill then there is no credability at all simple as that . I killed gregg about the same thing when he was key board racing his 300hp kseries that had never been even put together at the time . gregg did finaly get his car together and as everybody knows he blow up the board with his bragging rights lmao. Now lets get some cars together and ron some good times you guys have paid your dews figure out how get your shit right so you can enjoy it.

I went 11.0 missing then grabbing third...... And two center sleeves were sunk a few thousandths had to take 8 thousandths off so hopefully it will be ok this time

[h22 jones]

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I went 11.0 missing then grabbing third...... And two center sleeves were sunk a few thousandths had to take 8 thousandths off so hopefully it will be ok this time

Thats still shitty with that setup eother way . I just want you to get your shit right and be able to actually attend a couple races .

It sucks when we have some realy nice cars between a few friends and we could actually have a good time at the tarck but everybodys shit stays broke all the time lol. maybe this year will be the year. I hope nicks gets to make a few passes to man damn if he dont deserve it .

[EmminoDaGreat]

mike you've become quite the post whore!!

[*EFilliated*]

lol

mike you've become quite the post whore!!

[h22 jones]

mike you've become quite the post whore!!

Trying to get my reps up like all the cool kids on ia

Why dont you tell me why you cant return a text?

Shouldnt you be putting greggs motor together lol.

[EmminoDaGreat]

installer error?

How about step decking it
Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay

[1civic]

installer error?

How about step decking it
Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay

Git-r-done!!!!!

[h22 jones]

installer error?

How about step decking it
Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay

That block has been in many set ups no problems so i doubt it is a installer error who knows shit happens lol.

I told him to drill a hole in every cylinder and put a bolt and nut threw it then it couldnt slip any more

Anything above 500hp starts testing everything lol.

[EmminoDaGreat]

That block has been in many set ups no problems so i doubt it is a installer error who knows shit happens lol.

I told him to drill a hole in every cylinder and put a bolt and nut threw it then it couldnt slip any more

Anything above 500hp starts testing everything lol.

Yo when did you text me?

[1civic]

So now we go to H22's that blow up or don't run, bikes that want to run 11-12 sec cars, and the cool people are getting banned!!

Wow, Ia is the SHIT!!!!

Good Night!!

[David88vert]

So now we go to H22's that blow up or don't run, bikes that want to run 11-12 sec cars, and the cool people are getting banned!!

Wow, Ia is the SHIT!!!!

Good Night!!

Most bike riders will only manage 11's - go to the track and you will see that they are not unbeatable by any means.
I still haven't seen a real reason for stretch getting banned. A warning should have been enough, with what little that I have heard. I have the outside view though, and don't know if he was previously warned.

So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.

[Vteckidd]

So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.

Compared to a v8? none.

In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story

[David88vert]

Compared to a v8? none.

In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story

I wasn't comparing to V8s, just wondering which was the better motor on spray. Didn't know that they had cast pistons.

[Vteckidd]

I wasn't comparing to V8s, just wondering which was the better motor on spray. Didn't know that they had cast pistons.

oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick

[1civic]

Compared to a v8? none.

In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story

This is true, but NOS is no joke.. Direct port can be done right though, progressive controller and well it's game on!!

Yes most of the kids stick a dry kit on the car with a vaccum to the regulator thinking that shit will work, well it can IF you watch fuel pressure.. But who does that?? Moseley does it, but he also adds fuel threw the injectors I think.. Still not safe to me, but he don't spray 150 ether..

Stock B will take 50-75 easy, but over 100 and it will burn valves, pistons, etc!!!

[Vteckidd]

i plan on spraying my TL if i cant pick a supercharger up cheap. Itll be my first nitrous "honda"

[Moseley]

So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.

K for sure. Dan down in tampa ran a 200 direct port dry shot on a stock K20a2 w/ ARP head studs, injectors, race gas. 453 whp. In a full weight EG (2400 w/ driver) it went 10.60 @ 132. That is fucking insane for a 2.0L to handle that kind of shot.

[h22 jones]

Ive seen a couple h motors hold a 75shot stock for years . They normaly run 12.7-12.8 but thats about all the nitrous ive seen besides being used to spool up a turbo . I think jj is pretty good with the nitrous stuff . He had a ten second h22 nitrous motor for years with stock block and mahle pistons .

[justnprsh07]

Ived had nitrious on everything ive ever owned and h series stock holds it pretty well if you do it right.... Hell I even have a 350hp jetski thats had nitrious on it untill it blew a headgasket

[1civic]

Ived had nitrious on everything ive ever owned and h series stock holds it pretty well if you do it right.... Hell I even have a 350hp jetski thats had nitrious on it untill it blew a headgasket

Sounds like Head Gaskets don't like you!!!

LOL

[Vteckidd]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

[MidnightAuto]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

Correct but if done correclty it can be controlled..

[jerseyef9]

Correct but if done correclty it can be controlled..

[ghostofnyc]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

SMH

[Vteckidd]

SMH

oh look another cheerleader.

Sorry kid most people dont run nitrous on their hondas the RIGHT way, and because of that it is inconsistent and i stand by my statement.

V8s do it better for a reason

[ghostofnyc]

oh look another cheerleader.

Sorry kid most people dont run nitrous on their hondas the RIGHT way, and because of that it is inconsistent and i stand by my statement.

V8s do it better for a reason

First of all I didn't disrespect you. Just like you said this is a public forum if you don't like what I said hit exit or back button. I'm by no means a cheerleader KID so get it straight I have been in this game just as long if not longer than you. I was simply disagreeing with your comments, this is why most of the honda crowd has no idea how to set up a nitrous car the correct way because of statments like yours. It's obvious that you don't know much about nitrous and that's fine but dont post misinformation thanks have a good day KID.

[Vteckidd]

First of all I didn't disrespect you. Just like you said this is a public forum if you don't like what I said hit exit or back button. I'm by no means a cheerleader KID so get it straight I have been in this game just as long if not longer than you. I was simply disagreeing with your comments, this is why most of the honda crowd has no idea how to set up a nitrous car the correct way because of statments like yours. It's obvious that you don't know much about nitrous and that's fine but dont post misinformation thanks have a good day KID.

well excuse me mr genius when you come in here, quote posts i make, and say stuff like "LOL" and "SMH" without any explanantion ill call you out for being a condescending dickhead.

Im not posting information, im posting facts backed up by real world experience. Congratulations, you somehow managed to get LUCKY and spray a massive amount of nitrous and not blow a motor up. Do you realize my main point was that nitrous was INCONSISTENT. So do you have back to back to back dynos to show how much power your 150shot was ACTUALLY making.

prob not

[05dc5s]

SMH

Please do share what about the statement you quoted made you shake your head.

[Vteckidd]

Please do share what about the statement you quoted made you shake your head.

its because im Vteckidd and hes from NYC. thats it.

[jerseyef9]

nitrous dont blow motors idiots blow motors this not direct to no1 just stating a fact

[ghostofnyc]

its because im Vteckidd and hes from NYC. thats it.

Has nothing to do with it KID.

[ghostofnyc]

Please do share what about the statement you quoted made you shake your head.

Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine. Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

[jerseyef9]

Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine. Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

you forgot the 200shot j series (acura legend)

[Vteckidd]

Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine.

Cool blanket extremely vague statement bro.

FUEL?? THATS ALL I NEEDED THIS WHOLE TIME? NO SHIT. /sarcasm

so i suppose a 40R on a 1.6L is perfectly fine as long as i have 1000cc injectors! sweet had no idea this whole time, learn something new everyday.

Seriously you guys like to try to argue the most retarded shit ever because you cant stand someone having an OPINION that disagrees with yours. Im waiting for the "OH MY BOY RAN A 200 SHOT ON HIS H22 AND IT DID FINE SO ITS PERFECTLY COOL YALL DONT KNOW WHATCHU TALKIN ABOUT"

Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

Bullshit. If you are going to sit here and tell me YOU would tell a customer that a 150+ shot of NITROUS on a B16, ITR is perfectly safe because you add FUEL just proves how much you dont know. Fuel wont save your ringlands. IT becomes about cylidner pressure at that point. And just because you sprayed a 150 shot and survived doesnt mean you automatically "know what youre doing" so cut the holier than thou act.

My statement is correct. Nitrous is very dangerous because most people do not do it right, and even if they do, in motors as small as ours, ITS VERY DIFFICULT to get the CORRECT delivery of Nitrous and Fuel and keep it CONSISTENT.

Thats FACT people, sorry. If you disagree bring me your STOCK engine car with 150+ shot of gas on it and let me run it 10 times back to back and see if power holds and the motor holds. If it survives and you dont suffer 10%+ greater power loss in between runs, ill give you $100, if it doesnt, then you pay for dyno time. show me how much you really know.

Ask jenson how many GSRs he blew up with his direct port kit, Kevin Tran how his 150shot really only made like 80whp (granted it was a crappy zex kit), hell i wont quote numbers but if memory serves moseleys car was very inconsistent on the dyno as well on spray. his 75 shot did not add 75whp.

Why cant you guys just stop, READ my fucking comments and COMPREHEND for once. Just because you guys shit fairy dust in NYC doesnt mean it works down here in the real world. MOST people dont run the CORRECT nitrous kit, and even if you do, its VERY inconsistent and usually leads to motor failure. I stand by that statement.

If you disagree, fine, but dont act like you "know more" because you did it on 1 motor one time in wonderland.

FYI im still waiting on someone to show me this 250whp B Series NA motor, just like i though, ZERO takers.

[05dc5s]

Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine. Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

Ok here is the thing though. Nothing of what he said really warranted a SMH response IMHO. Nor did it disagree with what you said. So that is why I asked. What he said is true and nitrous simply isn't as stable or repeatable as a turbo. Does that mean it's wholly unsafe though? Does that mean nitrous cannot be done safely? No and he did not say that. Doest that mean that it cannot be controlled and done succesfully? No and he did not say that either.

While is true that any car you build will have variables and any car you build will almost certainly have a high exchange cost of durability for performance I think it would be very fair to say that with nitrous there is a finer line to be walking on compared to other things that can be done to a car i.e. a turbo, s/c, or a built motor. You dont agree there is a larger margin for error with those as compared to a nitrous car?

Your last comment actuall really solidifies this. If you either know what you're doing or you dont then wouldn't that mean you are walking a precarious line?

[Vteckidd]

Well it's obvious you two know what you're doing.

I'll be sure to ask some questions as I get closer to running it on mine

[Moseley]

I think a 75 single fogger wet on a J would be straight forward. As far as I know the ECU might even pull timing for you if it detects any significant knock.

Only concern I'd have is the fuel setup. Some guy with a gt35r on a J35 ended up starving one of the fuel rails and blowing it up. but if you could be sure you'll maintain pressure then spray the shit out of it and go run 12s