Well, besides that, if all shifting goes smooth by all drivers and he still wins, then something isnt being told about his car. There is no way his weaker car will win a roll race against me or collins as long as there are no mis-shifts.Originally Posted by Dirty Mech.
like tim said at taco mac that one night. hes probably got a cheater car. rockers will give him plenty of lift just like a cam.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
I personally don't know a single person in the country running after market higher ration roller rockers on a GTO. I am sure its been done but on the stock heads and cam I can't see where it would improve anything more than 5-10 HP.
They come stock with 1.6's.
I am still on the stock manifolds, anything I did internal to the motor would be at about 50% effectiveness until I get that exhaust opened up. This is my daily driver.... its slow as piss and I don't even like racing it. It just so happens its been making a fool out of people lately and that to me is more fun than busting someones ass in my camaro. People expect my camaro to be fast... they don't expect the GTO to leave their super charged 400+ rwhp Cobra in the dust.
rockers will get you very close to a .600 lift. and just because you have a bottle neck in your header or exhaust or whatever. doesnt mean your not going to gain power. your not going to gain the most that you can but if sure you gain more that 5-10whp. a cheater car is ment to look and sound stock aka you. so every little thing you can do puts you that far ahead.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
no they dont dumbass they come with 1.7's wow king of ls motors huh
yeah, I really want to see a legit dyno sheet...not one from a year ago. I'm not gonna pay for him to see what kind of power he is making either...
You need to stop racing dyno's.
A dyno should be used only to examine the gains you get from mods and for tuning your vehicle. Your problem is you try and race dyno's and predict the winner based off what a car dyno's.
Until you go to the track.... and start racing more often and ditch your silly roll racing you'll never really understand how cars react to different driving styles or abilities.
If you bet on what a car can do based off its dyno numbers, you'll lose every single time.
I know what you are saying, but if your car is as stock as you claim, there is no way you will beat me from a roll. Period.
Theres not one single serious racer in this country that uses a roll race for an accurate equal comparison of a cars performance or acceleration.
You not being able to launch your Cobra from a stop is not my problem. You should be able to outrun me from a dig. It's the only fair way to run a race.
When a car magazine tests a cars acceleration compared to another car... does it line it up and go from a 50 punch?
You need to go to commerce or silver dollar and ask if you can get a rolling 20 start from the burnout box since you have no clue how to launch your car.
Yeah, actually its called a roll on. They MotorTrend tests cars "roll on" acceleration....
I wouldnt do that @ the dragstrip anyway. The whole point of the strip is to see how quick you can run from a stand still. Thats not what I am trying to find out.
unless we have been to the track every weekend since we were 17 like you because you have no life. roll race for once and see what happens like you said you would.
if you dont want to man up and roll race collins and derek like you SAID you would. im sure maniac will run you from a dig.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
I'm always down. But im not going to be going to him, he'd have to come up my way this time.
id figure something like that i would love to see it in person when you rape him from a dig. but i dont feel like driving to timbuckto sh!thole that smells like thacker house. im sure we can find something up here in gwinnett area good enough.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
You are asking me to "man" up and race from a roll.
Theres nothing manly about a roll race there hey zeus.
ok no roll race.. then lets hit the track... you know the track with turns where you have to turn brake and accelerate... where you have to use all 3 pedals and the steering wheel. why buy a car and not use everything it came with.You are asking me to "man" up and race from a roll.
Theres nothing manly about a roll race there hey zeus.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
and who knows he might be useing a very well hiden sneaky pete 25 or 35 shot under the manifold. dont know where the bottle could be hid. but im sure you can hide a small one somewhere. but like tim said he could have a cheater car with some old redneck guy... aka dad or uncle. helping and showing him all the stuff he can do to cheat and still look stock.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
The fact that everyone lets Thacker get to them proves how weak minded alot of you are. He talks shit online, okay we all get it. Only way you guys will make him stop doing that is to talk sh!t back. Own him and move on. He is two-faced, but hey, he still brings entertainment to the Kills forum, so it's fine with me.
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Last edited by ThackerSS; 07-21-2008 at 05:30 PM.
LOL..WHY don't yall both get together an Beat each others AS$
Why don't you buy a car so you can be apart of the action instead of just a spectator?
he's got a "cute" little pickup...
I dont need a lawsuit on my hands.
Oh dude.
I wouldnt fight someone like thacker. He'd probably scratch my eyes, pull my hair and punch me in the balls.
fixed
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
Why don't you guys just run again... Dig and highway
He can out launch me and he wont run me on the highway
you really dont wanna do the 1.8 rockers WITH the cam i'm lookin at... then you run into piston/valve clearance. it just becomes a PITA
you can't run 1.8's with most aftermarket cams because of the ramp rate of the cams can break the bigger roller rockers. especially comp xer lobes
gotcha. makes sense.you can't run 1.8's with most aftermarket cams because of the ramp rate of the cams can break the bigger roller rockers. especially comp xer lobes
if thats the case how do ls7 engines run big aftermarket cams with no problem? i think the greater issue is piston/valve clearance. the only rockers i've really heard of breaking are the harland sharps, and even those were teh factory ratio 1.7:1... now valve springs... i've seen a few. mainly that batch comp 918's.you can't run 1.8's with most aftermarket cams because of the ramp rate of the cams can break the bigger roller rockers. especially comp xer lobes
and hey sus, stock valve springs are good to about .575 lift and thats right about where the 1.8:1 rockers put it, so there's really no need for new springs unless you're doing a baby cam along with it.
comp xer lobes are very harsh on valve springs because they open and close the valve much faster than normal lobes. take a xer lobed cam the advertised duration is say 284 intake 286 exhaust the @.50 duration will be 235 intake 237 exhaust. use the same advertised specs on a regular lobed cam the @.50 duration would be 232 intake 234 exhaust. the reasoning is the xer lobes open the valve quicker than regular lobes and this combined with 1.8 rockers is a no-no
stock ls2 and ls6 springs are no good beyond .550not even worth the risk
dont forget the valve springs... they dont compress very well beyond that 600 llift. which i really the problem.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
patriot dual gold springs are fine to .660 lift comp 918's are only good to .600
yeah didnt really know. i thought with a large like .5XX cam or maybe .600 and then on top of that rockers... would just have to much lift for any valve spring. but i have learned something.
Last edited by Dirty Mech.; 07-22-2008 at 05:26 PM.
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
What is a "cam" and what are "rockers"?
Hahaha the whole time i'm reading this thread I just imagine people in a bathroom stall arguing about there **** size. Do a re run, i will tape it
I say yall do a re-run and a race from a 45 roll. tape both, and be done with this race, Thacker still has to race collins from a roll
T-durr
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