This is why I only bash the truly fucked up cars that get posted here. To me a Civic or Integra with lip/wheels/drop is the same as one with a body kit/wheels/drop or what have you, because 90 recent of the people with those mods do them for the same reasons, cosmetic appeal. Fuck the term ricer, rice, whatever you wanna call it. If you stop to really delve down deep and really think about it it just makes no sense.