My Turbo BMW at Road Atlanta....

[tdurr]

well i thought the vids were pretty cool. and i lol @ them thinking u cant drive. i could tell u never went over 45% throttle. reps to you for paying to play.

[Elbow]

How about track conditions, or tires, or brakes, or P/W ratio, or how about the safety.....
Also what you do not know is that I was never WOT, or never used 50% of the potential of my car...

Also I wasn't going act like a child, and drive like a big shot in a group full of un-experience drivers, putting their life, their instructors, my instructor and my life in danger, b/c some child like you would callout my times in a forum like this.....

LOL

< good for you...

You were the one that typed (not races)...... so I don't understand you either......



Now my point since the beginning was simple:

Some said "He thinks he is a pro race car driver and giving you a hard time. Good videos " (key word pro).

My point was/is that in this motor sport the definition of PRO is different than what that member might think. In a scene b/c you paid to drive a race car it doesn't make you a pro... or because you built one makes you one either.

Yeah someone has to invest money to go somewhere, like an engineer does paying tuition to a college, but paying the city or a company to give you a job is not how is done....

So just to be fair to this stupid argument, the tuition money will equal building the cars that will help put your name out there, or buying a seat for a couple of seasons.... but moving all the way to the top base on money is just buying your way into heaven....


My point is simple a PRO makes a living from racing, either on sponsorship income or other like a race shop, internet business etc.....

BTW here it is the definition of Professional:

a : participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer> b : having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier> c : engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>

When I said not races I meant I've been given opportunities to test/drive cars that usually would cost money to for other drivers and I was given the opportunity for free. I meant I didn't get any free race opportunities outside of karting.

Ok I see what you're saying now and you still don't have any clue what you're talking about.

When someone PAYS to race, like I said, it's usually sponsor money, it's not coming from their pocket. Example, sponsor gives me $5k for a season in something, I find a team, we discuss options, I give them $5k for the season, I find another sponsor, they give me $2k for driver only sponsorship, that money can go right in my pocket. Did I lose a dime? Nope. I am racing off of one sponsor and making a small profit off of another. THAT is what MANY drivers do, if you think otherwise you're HIGHLY mistaken.

The lala land of being "found" from racing karts or club racing is nearly unheard of. EVERYONE pays to get to heaven in motorsport.

There IS a difference in those drivers and drivers who just pay to race without making a profit, THOSE are not professional drivers YET, but MOST professional drivers came from there. This IS how it works. I have no clue who told you otherwise but go to any large pro race and talk to drivers and teams, they will tell you exactly what I just tried to explain to you. There aren't many drivers out there who get paid directly from the team, sponsors, etc. Those are top of the line real professional drivers and that's a HARD nearly impossible job to obtain, even if you're as good as Michael Schumacher I PROMISE you will spend LOADS of money to get there.

well i thought the vids were pretty cool. and i lol @ them thinking u cant drive. i could tell u never went over 45% throttle. reps to you for paying to play.

Who are you talking to? I take it English wasn't a good class for you? Do you see anyone saying he can't drive? Sure Matt mentioned he ran a lot quicker in his 325IS, but I'm just speaking of motorsport drivers. Don't come in here and act like this is an e-thuggish thread. Anyone can tell he wasn't going full throttle. That means NOTHING though.