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    Well that's alot less volume of water than when you go over a puddle. What those people are doing is the way some people decarbonize their combustion chamber. Fact!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimer4life
    Well that's alot less volume of water than when you go over a puddle. What those people are doing is the way some people decarbonize their combustion chamber. Fact!
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    yeah, its different! when the car hydro-locks it is because of ALOT of water, like no air, at all.. ie: when the intake acts as a straw and sucks up ONLY 100% water, it hydro-locks.. Bypass valves are designed to create a opening in the event of this, so that it sucks in air up above instead of the water..

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    I'll go with fack.

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    lmfao fack u

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimer4life
    Well that's alot less volume of water than when you go over a puddle. What those people are doing is the way some people decarbonize their combustion chamber. Fact!
    that was a whole cup of water. thank of this man. when you go over a puddle of water the water mixes with the air has to travel to the intake then to the valves. all at around 4,000 rpms witch means each valve is opening 64.64 times PER SECOND do the math and phisics. its not possible to get even a drop of water bigger than the tip of a pen at that speed. oh and check out the water injection kits that AEM makes
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    water injection is a small controlled amount to cool the combustion chamber. big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hondabuilder
    water injection is a small controlled amount to cool the combustion chamber. big difference.
    how much water do you think can fit into a cylinder each strock with the intake valve opening 64 + times per second? when you submerge your filter under water (from a puddle) your car would die completly with lack of air causing the water to fall back out of the intake. your cylinder can not combust without air. IE the car dies. mist and or drops or even caps full of water (rain) could make the travel but not a hole intake tube 4 foot long. plus the whole prosess of you intake tube,manifold and TB automizes the mixture IE busting it up into a mist. plus lets go back to the first question *"how much water do you think can fit into a cylinder each strock with the intake valve opening 64 + times per second?"*
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    just for ****s and giggles. turn on a fan at its highest speed get a water hose turn it on and see how much water you can get past the blades.
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    i wasn't aware my intake had blades in it

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    you fail to understand the process of a four stroke engine. there is a compression stroke. that is when the valves are all closed and the piston travels upward in the cylinder. speed is irrelevant. if water is in the combustion chamber in sufficient quantities during the compression stroke, it will cause damage because water cannot be compressed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hondabuilder
    you fail to understand the process of a four stroke engine. there is a compression stroke. that is when the valves are all closed and the piston travels upward in the cylinder. speed is irrelevant. if water is in the combustion chamber in sufficient quantities during the compression stroke, it will cause damage because water cannot be compressed.


    if you don't believe me try it out.
    yeah duh!!!!! but you cant get enough water into the engine on the "intake stroke" to build the compresion so high that the cylinder cant compress it. remember the intake valves are opening 64 times a second at 4,000 rpm. do the math and yous your common sense oh . by the way "Intake,compression,combustion,exhaust" 4 stroke
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    yes you can. a engine can pull a significant vacuum, when the intake is submerged in water in can draw enough in there to hydro-lock. how do you explain the people that have hydrolocked there's with proof?
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    First off, that was not a whole cup of water. secondly no one is taking evaporation into affect.

    Water boils at 212 degrees normally. I know my motor runs in the 240 degree range.

    The valve was open as high temp, a good bit of that water was vitually boiling as soon as it touched anything. But there was no way that little bit of water would hydrolock and motor. I suck more than that up on a 5 mile trip when its raining
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimer4life
    Well that's alot less volume of water than when you go over a puddle. What those people are doing is the way some people decarbonize their combustion chamber. Fact!

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    that video is useless. I've know 2 cars to hydrolock, one was my 94 gsr, and the other was my friends s13. Both of the cars were at around 1000-1500rpm went over puddles and both busted the block in several different places.

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    fiction didnt bend the rods i pulled out of a b20 a couple years ago

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    I say you dont know how to spell Fact...
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    What the fack?
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    Friends 95 Jeep wrangler.....hydro-locked while crossing a creek. No the engine did not shut off when it didn't get air...it shut off when water in the cylinders caused the rods to go through the oil pan haha FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool87
    that was a whole cup of water. thank of this man. when you go over a puddle of water the water mixes with the air has to travel to the intake then to the valves. all at around 4,000 rpms witch means each valve is opening 64.64 times PER SECOND do the math and phisics. its not possible to get even a drop of water bigger than the tip of a pen at that speed. oh and check out the water injection kits that AEM makes
    yea it was a whole cup of water but not all at once. and who cares how fast the valves are working, all it takes is for the valves to open once for all that water to get in the chamber and lock the motor. and once again it's not the size of the water drops, but the volume of water that gets in the chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool87
    how much water do you think can fit into a cylinder each strock with the intake valve opening 64 + times per second? when you submerge your filter under water (from a puddle) your car would die completly with lack of air causing the water to fall back out of the intake. your cylinder can not combust without air. IE the car dies. mist and or drops or even caps full of water (rain) could make the travel but not a hole intake tube 4 foot long. plus the whole prosess of you intake tube,manifold and TB automizes the mixture IE busting it up into a mist. plus lets go back to the first question *"how much water do you think can fit into a cylinder each strock with the intake valve opening 64 + times per second?"*
    the only thing that is atomized(not automize as you said) in the chamber is the fuel and that is done by injectors or jets

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    Seems like IA knows it's a fact. YOU FAIL!

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