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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ForntiTw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKe1EgkXhQM
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thats funny as shit
wow, thats insane.
I hate that shit... You get a funny feeling for like 45 seconds. Then it's gone. And you have to get a BIG ASS bong hit.
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Psychedelic experiences, in relating by definition to realms of mind, are necessarily somewhat subjective. Individual variations in reported effects are to be expected. However, from the many experience accounts posted to the Internet (Erowid has almost 700 entries) some general trends can be vouched.
Most people find that the effects of salvinorin are not conducive to socializing, thus those with any experience with the plant emphasize that Salvia is not a ‘party drug’. External stimuli can be distracting. The experience can be disorienting and dissociative. Motor-control is negatively affected. It is advisable to have a sober trip sitter present, particularly for initial experiences, prior to possible assessment of individual sensitivity.
The effects of Salvia are regarded by many to be highly spiritual. Many find Salvia useful for meditation. Consciousness is retained until the highest doses, but body control, awareness of the external environment, and individual personality may be affected with even modest amounts. Even those experienced with the use of other psychoactive substances may feel confused and less in control.
At lower doses, spontaneous laughter, mild closed-eye visuals, stuttering or strobing visual effects, enhanced or distorted depth perception, and a heightened sense of color and texture may be experienced.
Moderate doses appear trance-like. Time distortion and open-eye visuals become increasingly apparent. Fractal patterns and geometric shapes may be noticeable with eyes open, and can be confusing. Many people experience sensations of falling, similar to, but more pronounced than what is occasionally felt at the onset of sleep. The user may experience fully formed visions of other places, people, and events, especially with eyes closed.
At high doses the effects become more powerful and may additionally include reports of perceptions of dimensional distortion, vertigo, feelings of intense exhilaration and/or panic, sensations of wind or physical pressure, hearing voices, flanging of sound, significant open and closed-eye visuals, loss of speech, life changing experiences, dissociation and various hallucinations of experiencing alternate realities, out-of-body experiences, visiting parallel universes, dissolution of one's ego, as well as perceived contact with beings or entities. Many users report twisting or splitting feelings. Ordinary objects appear to morph into powerful visually animated creatures. It is also not unusual that, while experiencing the effects, a person will not remember that they have taken Salvia, which can cause the user to panic. A strong feeling of déjà vu is commonly reported as an effect of large doses of Salvia.
The experience is quite different from that of most other psychoactives and may be overwhelming, even with a conducive, reassuring and comfortable set and setting. Most Salvia practitioners recommend darkness and silence as the best environment; however, minimal, ambient or relaxing music can be helpful.
According to experience reports at Erowid and elsewhere, Salvia seems to produce visions which have a somewhat higher level of consistency than other substances. Reports of contact with an entity supposedly associated with the plant, ("the Shepherdess/Salvia Goddess") again with fairly consistent characteristics, are also common.
Many Salvia users, during high-dose out-of-body experiences, may suddenly 'merge' with objects. With the significant time distortion typical of Salvia, participants may report the feeling of living a lifetime as another person, or as an inanimate object, such as a wall or a piece of furniture.
The experiences can be pleasant, or frightening and confusing [3].
Interestingly, the effects of Salvia divinorum are often mistakenly described as 'LSD-like' by people who have not tried it, most notably politicians and reporters. Actual users on the other hand more often describe its effects as unique (38.4%), and more like meditation, yoga or a trance (23.2%). This compares to only 17.7% of users who liken it to any of the other serotonergic psychoactives (mescaline, psilocybin, LSD, etc.).[20]
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Short term
After the main intoxication normal awareness of self and the immediate surroundings returns but lingering effects may be felt. These short-term lingering effects have a completely different character than the experience of the main intoxication. About half of users report a pleasing 'afterglow', or pleasant state of mind following the main intoxication. Researchers (Baggott, et al) from the University of San Francisco conducted a survey of 500 Salvia users which identified that they 'sometimes or often' experience the following common (>20% occurrence) effects that linger following the main intoxication[21] :
Increased insight - 47%
Improved mood - 44.8%
Calmness - 42.2%
Increased connection with universe or nature - 39.8%
Weird thoughts - 36.4%
Things seem unreal - 32.4%
Floating feeling - 32%
Increased sweating - 28.2%
Body felt warm or hot - 25.2%
Mind racing - 23.2%
Lightheaded - 22.2%
Increased self-confidence - 21.6%
According to some notable sources (principally Daniel Siebert’s sagewisdom website) a few people report mild headache, insomnia, irritability or bronchial irritation after taking Salvia. These symptoms seem to be reported more often by smokers than by quid chewers.
[edit] Longer term
While 'improved mood' is one of the most commonly noted short-term effects following the primary intoxication, Baggot's Salvia user survey results also found that 25.8% of respondents reported antidepressant-like mood improvements lasting 24 hours or longer.[20] These findings are in-line with known properties of K-Opioid agonists as well as anecdotal reports and findings of clinicians.
Both scientific and anecdotal user evidence indicates that chemical constituents of Salvia may have potential as therapy for drug addictions to stimulants (e.g., amphetamines) and opiates. Research has shown that the plant contains neoclerodane diterpenes that have therapeutic potential for helping people who have drug abuse problems. The neoclerodane diterpenes in Salvia are k-Opioid agonists. k-Opioid agonists, according to Tidgewell et al, (AAPS Journal), "possess utility in the treatment of opioid dependence and have been shown to have anti-depressant activity as well as block stress-induced behavior responses."
Most users report no hangover or negative after-effects the next day. This is consistent with the apparent low toxicity of Salvia indicated by research conducted at the University of Nebraska.
Some media reports have raised concerns about the possibility of LSD-like flashbacks occurring after use of Salvia. Reports of flashbacks have not been established. At least one user reported experiencing ongoing negative psychological effects, having three flashback experiences in four months after taking a concentrated form of Salvia (10x extract). Though the linked account does mention other drug usage in a couple of cases: "During one of them I had smoked absurd amounts of marijuana, and during another I was on shrooms". Salvia flashbacks may be true enough but also ordinarily quite rare phenomena.
Salvia has not been found to be either physically or psychologically addictive. The results of the Baggot survey, which used the standard psychiatric drug dependence diagnostic framework, indicate that Salvia has little if any potential as a drug of dependence. While there are no proven health risks associated with the use of Salvia as a psychoactive drug, medical professionals generally caution against the ingestion of smoke from any substance into the lungs. Salvia's long-term effects on the human body are not well known at this time. Further study of its indigenous use in Mexico and its effect on the health of the Mazatec people who have been using it for centuries would be useful in this regard.
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[edit] Attainment of effect
Some types of people seem to be particularly resistant to the effects even after repeated attempts. Others find their sensitivity quite variable from one experience to the next. Regardless of sensitivity which may be established in the longer term, many people fail to achieve significant effects with their initial attempts. Anecdotal reports suggest for some the possibility of increasingly stronger effects with repeated use of similar amounts of Salvia. This could be attributable to the practice and learning of more efficient ingestion techniques. Some suggest however that 'reverse tolerance' or increased sensitisation may otherwise be a phenomenon of the active principle.
Onset of the effects may be subtle and not immediately noticeable. There is often a few seconds of preceding latency. In any case, caution is advised if considering further ingestion before time has been allowed for prior amounts to clear the system.
[edit] Duration of effect
If Salvia is smoked the main effects are experienced quickly. The most intense 'peak' is reached within a minute or so and lasts for about 1-5 minutes, followed by a gradual tapering back. At 5-10 minutes, less intense yet still appreciable effects typically persist, but giving way to a returning sense of the everyday and familiar until back to recognisable baseline after about 15 to 20 minutes. [2]
Chewing the leaf makes the effects come on more slowly, over a period of 10 to 15 minutes, the experience then lasting for about 40 to 50 minutes but producing much milder and lighter effects than other methods of dosing. The bitter taste of the leaf is usually so objectionable that most individuals will not chew the leaf long enough to obtain any kind of psychedelic effect.
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Dont feel like registering to see the video but I've seen and done enough of that when I was younger that I feel like I dont need to. The stuff is a lot of fun considering that its ballsout tripping for a couple minutes and then giggling fits for the next couple of minutes. A couple guys had bad experiences but I always had fun with it.
You can force lucid dreams if you smoke it and then immediately lay down to sleep.
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what, did you copy and paste erowid?Originally Posted by AtifSajid
anyway, salvia is a lame ass attempt for people to get fucked up. if you want to get fucked up legally, red dawn, and high doses of DXM work just fine.
Yuck. Only tried Red Dawn once and that was enough to know it wasnt for me. DXM is just stupid, might as well huff gasoline too.Originally Posted by ksinao
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red dawn is ok with me, i enjoy it. most people i know dont handle it well though.Originally Posted by GTScoob
and dxm is stupid if you take coricidin, or drink bottles of robitussin maximum cough. but if you A) extract it or B) buy it wholesale pure online then it's alot cleaner, and alot safer. and at the higher (3 & 4) plateaus can provide a nice spiritual trip.
I had never heard of salvia before so I did a quick wikepedia and pasted so if someone doesnt know about it, they have some kind of information.
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