K20 EK vs Supra

[dcutting9]

no worries...i just gotta have my k20's back

[N/A EK]

Ohh snap, that supra got OWNED! But it's pulling on the Civic at the end =)

[Killer]

i don't have speakers... so some one else tell me this...

do u hear a horn at all in the video...

cause he hit the horn in every race... even on the firebird...

so unless he's signaling a go, maybe he's got the "NOS BUTTON!" there... just a thought.. and again.. i don't have speakers so i couldn't hear a thing.

[chameleon30038]

the supra wasn't on it at all...didn't look like it even tried

[RHD_Joe]

all he needs is some better tires but that is a bad ass civic..

[Maniaç]

Umm... kinda cool.. sounds to damn rice though!

[HiPSI]

not bullshit...you can make 280-300whp easily out of an NA k20 or k24...

orly? show me ONE that makes 280 Wheel Horsepower.

[Dyverze]

Firebird had it's hazzards on before the race...that's classic...

Looks like the firebird gave a better race then the supra...

[Boostedek]

it a honda that what it does to supra..some people just cant admit thing.......

[JDMk24coupe]

here you go...http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22482

orly? show me ONE that makes 280 Wheel Horsepower.

[man]

Firebird had it's hazzards on before the race...that's classic...

Looks like the firebird gave a better race then the supra...

Is that surprising???

[Black R]

Mike, what forum did you call bs in.....?

[bigdare23]

LOL, that shit is too funny! Anyways there's noway in hell that civic is only 200(sumthing)hp, just cant be. I believe he's N/A because if you goto H-T N/A section you will see crazy ass setups (with dynos to prove it) from the west coast (example 180hp LS). So you can get 300+hp out of a "K".

[HiPSI]

here you go...http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22482

that's an engine dyno, not WHP.

[Black R]

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22525


that appears to be the same car.

[Boostedek]

i was just about to say that too...i was looking at that earlier...

[bobbyg313]

watch the guys left thumb it looks like hes layin on horn like hes spraying the whole time. the supra may not be tuned so hes not on it hard and the supra guy in smiling the whole time. there is a big difference in the last race supra pulling hard!

this only has 257 to the wheels and look at his mod list


K20a2 (type-s head )
Port & Polish stage 2 (flow bench 300CFM)
Crower stage 2: 3/4 Race Cams
Crower Stainless Steel Valves: Exhaust (30.5mm)
Crower Stainless Steel Valves: Intake (35.5mm)
Crower Valve Springs & Titanium Retainers
ITB TWM inductions 50 MM
Peak and hold injectors 660cc
Hondata Gasket

SSR RACE HEADERS
Stainless steel Mandrel Bent 3inch exaust line
Apexi Turbo Muffler

K24a1 (CRV Base )
Machined block with oil jet squirters
Crower Maxi-Light Rods: K24A1
CP Pistons 12:5 -1

Tranny 6 speed
Exedy Organic Clutch stage 2
Exedy Light Weight Racing Flywheel 9lb
DC5 Type-R LSD ATS
Neuspeed short shifter

built K24 w/ type s head race cams ITB. it would be hard to get more HP from a N/A street car. K 20s are bad ass!

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...&highlight=K24

if you go to this guys page and watch the frist video it shows a k20 EG beating a EVO. on 22psi.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=46135563

[112480]

For the record Mike you KNOW a N/A K20 can make 300WHP!! This guy obviously didn't have anywhere near that, but don't let others think that it can't happen.

It's called www.k20a.org people! READ!

try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj4EVDwkg2A&NR

[Vteckidd]

i never said it wasnt possible on a K series.

I KNOW People making over 280whp on K series, i know people making over 300whp.

but this car, with a STOCK PRB manifold is NOT MAKING OVER 220whp.

im not misleading anyone.

[112480]

i never said it wasnt possible on a K series.

I KNOW People making over 280whp on K series, i know people making over 300whp.

but this car, with a STOCK PRB manifold is NOT MAKING OVER 220whp.

im not misleading anyone.

Oh yeah I didn't mean it like that Mike, I just see people saying "yeah right, not a honda" like it's impossible for a N/A K20 to beat a turbo'd Supra(within reason i.e horspower).

[Dudeman]

left thumb always hits the left horn button, and when he races the firebird he hits it and no horn but OMG supa powa. hes sprayin...

[MR. 200SX]

The owner of the car states it only makes 203whp. I have DRIVEN A LIGHTER CAR THAT THAT , josh greens K20 EG hatch making 202, an if that supra was really making 400whp, it should have been a close race, nto an absolute crushing.

Basically this is a mid 13 second honda beating a 13 second supra.

It could be a 13sec VS 13sec but the video shows a 13sec beating an 18sec Supra. I'm sure that supra wasn't even trying. You can see the last race when he let off before the supra caught up to him.

[zenkiAM]

thats definitely believable

[2.3 Evo 8]

Looks like the Supra driver can't drive worth a shit and gave up by 100-120mph in all 3 races. It gave up in the first two and started pulling in the third, but the Civic was off the throttle by 115mph.

The last race with the Firebird was good, I think he caught the Firebird sleeping at the light to be honest.

The driver of the Civic hit his horn with the Supra, but I didn't see anything regarding nitrous and the use of the horn to trigger it. He doesn't stay on the horn during the races.

Everybody in that video sucks at driving though.

[Dudeman]

its not hard to have it so you hit it and it stays one and you hit it to turn it off though.

[00CelicaGT]

When they ran from a dig he did leave before the 3rd honk but that shit is really fast. i like the end with the firebird

"it' s just a 4 Cyinder" And smoked his ass lol

[josh green]

I havent watched the video but I have seen some fast NA K series hatches. The only that I remember made abot 240whp and was doing pretty well in hwy pulls against a c5 z06. I think the hatch stayed ahead of the z06 1 time and all the rest were verry close, but anything over 120mph in a civc you better have some power to compensate for the wind drag. If you want I will see about posting that video.

I think mike drove my hatch when I had it, it was pretty fast but not really anything spectacular. Had I invested money into getting an LSD and other things that it probably would have made a big difference. I only did a few hwy rolls with some friends, and I hung with a evo9 rs with full exhaust (both had passengers) and smoked the ever living dog shite out of Black R's Type R ef hatch (only I had a passenger). Only tuning I had in the car was an hour with chunky. I dont know how much it is to do a K sawp now but I did mine a the end of 04 and it was right at $8k to put a STOCK k20a2, stock non lsd tranny, stock clutch, budget header, K pro, Hasport mounts, DSS stage 1 axles (cheapest you could get and no one knew about the OEM combo yet.) Wiring harness, fuel lines, clutch line, fuel rail,etc... and not to mention being nickle and dimed to death. The car went 13.2 @106mph and that was the 1 and only pass I made on slicks. Next pass I sheered an axle. 12's were attainable, but back then it wasnt worth the money. I just wanted to be the 1st!

I have seen some people throw around that its easy to make 280-300whp in a K series. You guys are dead wrong, it is EASIER to do than a B series but its not easy by any means. I had everything needed to make a big power NA K motor, then I realised how much of a waste of money it would be. I had, 13.5:1 compression pistons, crower rods, GE sleeved block, skunk2 stage 3 cams, etc... I sold every last bit of it. The guy I bought a lot of it from made 260whp in his wifes k20 hatch that had ITB's, shitty Crower stage 2 cam and the bottom end that I have listed. The car still ran low 11's on 24.5" slicks.

I didnt see much front end movement on the supra while "shifting"

[AnthonyF]

Looks like the Supra driver can't drive worth a shit and gave up by 100-120mph in all 3 races. It gave up in the first two and started pulling in the third, but the Civic was off the throttle by 115mph.

The last race with the Firebird was good, I think he caught the Firebird sleeping at the light to be honest.

The driver of the Civic hit his horn with the Supra, but I didn't see anything regarding nitrous and the use of the horn to trigger it. He doesn't stay on the horn during the races.

Everybody in that video sucks at driving though.

yea, i agree

[Boostedek]

I just see people saying "yeah right, not a honda" like it's impossible for a N/A K20 to beat a turbo'd Supra(within reason i.e horspower).[/QUOTE]


X2 on that...

[dowhatido]

from the sound of the video, you can tell the motor is built from how he wines out 2nd gear, when i had my built b16 in my ej, and even with the stage 3 clutch i couldnt get it to stop the wine, and i didnt have hondata or anything so i would just bang rev limiter with no loss of power.....doesnt look like bullshit to me, but i really did love the shit with the firebird, thats what rednecks get for talking shit

[Vteckidd]

READ

his motor is NOT BUILT

[HiPSI]

now having seen it with sound... that thing comes up on the revs from a slow roll WAY too fast to not have nitrous on it.

not sure why all of these people are thinking the horn button is the spray though, that's what a friggin throttle switch is for.

[boosted_nonv]

If you know anything about hondas they make a noticeable change on the shot, and it didn't, why can't you people just believe it beat a supra, the supra is the slow car in this one

[xext12mvx]

that shit is fast just because it beat a supra it has nos lol

[112480]

If you know anything about hondas they make a noticeable change on the shot, and it didn't, why can't you people just believe it beat a supra, the supra is the slow car in this one

because some people are just period. And you know what's even funnier?, ALOT of people like that started out with a honda!

[worldchamp]

idk but it seems to be bullshit to me.... doubt that supra has 400.

[boosted_nonv]

idk but it seems to be bullshit to me.... doubt that supra has 400.

exactly

[Jenson]

Looks staged or the supra driver really is retarded or it has major traction issues he did get jumped massively in every race. Cant tell since the civic is retarded loud and camera was never in supra. The stock TA seemed to do better than the more hp supra

[Boostedek]

some people have 2jz that why they cant except that a civic beat a supra...i seen some slow supra running 14 at the track..

[Big Baller]

You don't have to have a button for nitrous you ricers, its on a throttle switch.

That car is on the bottle Period